Swedish Al-Queda leader killed in Iraq.

[KarlXII]

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You know, it does pain me to see Sweden used like this.

[Koga No Goshi]

Now if only we could prove McCain is part Swedish.

[Alexander the Pretty Good]

Some vikings were Swedes.
Some vikings settled in Ireland.
McCain's Irish...

Come on, this is too easy.

[Kadagar_AV]

1. "Swede", well... His name wasn't exactly Sven Eriksson.

More like Muhammed Whablablabla...


2. Al-Queda, if you read up on Al-Queda, you will find it very strange that they now pop up everywhere... Or maybe the US is just clueless?


3. "Leader", that is a joke. Swedish SÄPO (Swedish version of NSA) has confirmed he is nothing remotely close to a terrorist leader.

[Strike For The South]

1. "Swede", well... His name wasn't exactly Sven Eriksson.

More like Muhammed Whablablabla...
r.

So you dont consider immigrants sweeds? Well that explains allot.

[Kadagar_AV]

well, it depends...

I do not consider anyone with a swedish passport a swede, no.

In this case, he came to sweden 5 years ago, got his passport 4 years ago, and went back to waristan 3 years ago...

He has thus lived 2 years in Sweden, before going back to fight.

No, I wouldn't call him a swede. A person with a Swedish passport, yes, but not a swede:)

[Strike For The South]

well, it depends...

I do not consider anyone with a swedish passport a swede, no.

In this case, he came to sweden 5 years ago, got his passport 4 years ago, and went back to waristan 3 years ago...

He has thus lived 2 years in Sweden, before going back to fight.

No, I wouldn't call him a swede. A person with a Swedish passport, yes, but not a swede:)

Thats not what your post said.

[Kadagar_AV]

My post did not say I don't consider immigrants swedes either...

Truth is somewhere in between.

But who or what I consider to be a swede is a topic for another day... In this particular case though, I dislike the notion of him being portrayed as a swede.

[Strike For The South]

My post did not say I don't consider immigrants swedes either...

Truth is somewhere in between.

But who or what I consider to be a swede is a topic for another day... In this particular case though, I dislike the notion of him being portrayed as a swede.

Well you made fun of his name and pointed out the fact that it wasnt spelled like a normal sweede. I can only draw one conclusion from that post. Maybe next time you shouldn't try to score a couple of cheap laughs with a bigoted post.

[Kadagar_AV]

Maybe next time you should not call someone a bigot based on two sentences?

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

People who do actually know me would laugh pretty hard at that... You know, when teaching, I have choosen to work in the ghettos... earning way less than I could. I have been a volunteer worker at a yuth center for immigrant kids. I participated in the "big brother" program to get immigrant kids out of criminality. My dad sat in a concentrationcamp (and most of my family on fathers side). At University, I started a program to help immigrants with the language for their raports and papers...

Basicly, if I say someone is not swedish I have some legitimate reasons for it.

I can agree that the post can come off a bit bad if you read it that way, so just don't :)

[KarlXII]

The man was a Swede, he had citizenship, therefore, a Swede. But this is all I consider him to have been- an immigrant made citizen.

[Crazed Rabbit]

3. "Leader", that is a joke. Swedish SÄPO (Swedish version of NSA) has confirmed he is nothing remotely close to a terrorist leader.

The Swedish citizen who on Wednesday evening was reported to have been killed by US forces in Iraq was Abu Qaswara - according to the UN and EU one of the most senior al-Qaeda leaders in the country.

In this case, he came to sweden 5 years ago, got his passport 4 years ago, and went back to waristan 3 years ago...

“He came to Sweden in the middle of the 1980s, became a Swedish citizen in the mid-1990s and was here until 2006. In May 2006 he travelled to Iraq and hasn’t returned since,” said Israelsson.

CR

[Kadagar_AV]

The Swedish citizen who on Wednesday evening was reported to have been killed by US forces in Iraq was Abu Qaswara - according to the UN and EU one of the most senior al-Qaeda leaders in the country.

Again, that is a joke. He isn't even part of al-qaeda, but of GIA (Groupe Islamique Armé). I know that the US wants to portray Al-Quade and Bin Laden as some sort of James Bond secret organisation with ties all over the world.... The reality is something else though. There are many, many small groups, with little or no connection (often fighting within too). However, sicne sep. 11 the US has blamed pretty much every terror act on this super secret organisation...





You are correct about citizenship though, the first sources of swedish media had it wrong, and it is now changed to "mid 1990s" as you say. However, he has not spent much actual time IN Sweden, cause SÄPO was on him at once.


He lived in my former area btw... cool:) That means I can get some more information probably, I know the people at his mosque and stuff:) Will check...

[Strike For The South]

Maybe next time you should not call someone a bigot based on two sentences?

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

People who do actually know me would laugh pretty hard at that... You know, when teaching, I have choosen to work in the ghettos... earning way less than I could. I have been a volunteer worker at a yuth center for immigrant kids. I participated in the "big brother" program to get immigrant kids out of criminality. My dad sat in a concentrationcamp (and most of my family on fathers side). At University, I started a program to help immigrants with the language for their raports and papers...

Basicly, if I say someone is not swedish I have some legitimate reasons for it.

I can agree that the post can come off a bit bad if you read it that way, so just don't :)

it isnt worth my time or the warning post deleted

[spmetla]

Well good riddance. Too bad that he was able to misuse his Swedish citizenship. Let's hope his successor is an incompetent that leads to more Al-Queda losses and few civilian and coalition losses.

[Kadagar_AV]

sfts, as I mentioned, I had old information... There is a difference between being a liar and having the wrong info... Accepting to be wrong, and clearing up the facts is all anyone can do, isnt it?

So yes, he had been a swedish citizen (on paper) for 10+ years... However, my point remains that he wasnt participating in the swedish society, thus I find it a stretch to call him swedish...

[Fragony]

One down now the rest.

[Kadagar_AV]

It seems like he blew himself up, killing some woman and kids in the process?

No reliable source though, can anyone confirm?

[yesdachi]

There is a difference between being a liar and having the wrong info...

That’s the same thing W said after invading Iraq.

[Louis VI the Fat]

Well I have some trouble considering this man a Swede.

In fact, one can wonder whether lax immigration laws not only bring unwanted immigrants like this man into Europe, but whether this isn't dangerously close to Europe offering a safe haven for terrorists.

Abu Qaswara is a Moroccon terrorist, who is wanted by Morocco for terrorist activities, and who possibly escaped prosecution because of his Swedish nationality.
He was born in Morocco, lived there until he was an adult, radicalised, lived in Sweden for just long enough to gain citizenship, and no sooner had he aquired one or he left for Afghanistan.

[Kadagar_AV]

Louis, agreed.

When I read the swedish press and forums, it seems like most people are a bit angry that he gets portrayed as "swedish"...

[Tribesman]

It seems like every other week the leader of al-qaida in Iraq is killed .
They certainly have a lot of leaders don't they

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Bob MacNamara designed the "X al queda leader killed" software. What'd you expect?

[Kadagar_AV]

One out of 3 people struggling to free Iraq seems to be an al-quaeda leader...

[Banquo's Ghost]

It seems like every other week the leader of al-qaida in Iraq is killed .
They certainly have a lot of leaders don't they

Isn't that what happens when you have a Hydra and keep chopping the heads off without a plan?

[LittleGrizzly]

Its obvious to anyone that a war like this requires far far more than just killing the bad guys, we need the best damn pr campaign in history, and killing people is bad pr, so limit the killing and more pr!

[PanzerJaeger]

Some people will find 1001 ways to downplay the death of a muslim fanatic.

Yay for killing muslim fanatics.

[Kadagar_AV]

Panzer, what thread did you answer to?

No one has downplayed the death of a muslim fanatic, we just kind of disagree with him being a muslim fanatic in charge of other muslim fanatics.

We downplay the leadership role, as that is, well, wrong...

[Fragony]

Abu Qaswara is a Moroccon terrorist, who is wanted by Morocco for terrorist activities, and who possibly escaped prosecution because of his Swedish nationality.
He was born in Morocco, lived there until he was an adult, radicalised, lived in Sweden for just long enough to gain citizenship, and no sooner had he aquired one or he left for Afghanistan.

Muahaha home of the beards land of the wee. I expect a lot of swedes are in their bed with an icebag on their heads 'what did we do wrong'

[Kadagar_AV]

No, we know what we did wrong, we let wayyyyy to many immigrants in, in to little time.

As an example, my brother lives in Södertälje a town with 81.000 citizens.

This town ALONE has accepted more Iraqis than the entire USA plus Canada together. Now do you see where the problem start?

When people think of Sweden they don't think of ghettos, well guess what, we now have ghettos as bad (or worse) as in the US. Like Rosengárd, where the firebrigade and ambulance refuse to go in without police escort, and where the police go in with minimum two cars at (single police patrols gets attacked).

About 85% of Rosengárd is muslim, and in Rosengárd High School, with about a thousand students, only two are born in Sweden.

So basicle, we have no control at all who is here and not, we pretty much give anyone a swedish passport.