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[Idaho]

Fundraising for Atheist Bus Adverts

A feelgood story to warm the cockles

[KukriKhan]

With your help, we can brighten people's days on the way to work, help raise awareness of atheism in the UK, and hopefully encourage more people to come out as atheists. We can also counter the religious adverts which are currently running on London buses, and help people think for themselves.

Any examples/pix of those religious adverts that these humanist ones are aimed at?

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I found this: Guardian article from June that quotes one such:

"When the son of man comes, will he find faith on the earth?" (Luke 18:8)

[Kadagar_AV]

That is just stupid! God DOES exist, it says so in a 2000 year old book revised numerous times!

[Idaho]

The CofE (church of England) run quite a few advertising their 'Alpha Course' which is some introduction to xtianity. Their are a few muslim pride ones around too.

[Hosakawa Tito]

They need a paint job and the Magic Bus theme song.

[KukriKhan]

Interesting Wiki article on London buses; seems they're a hybrid gov't/private outfit. With emphasis on "private", adverts for everything from cigarettes to atheism = OK. With emphasis on "gov't", maybe they've gotta be more discriminative.

At any rate, the advert cost seem a little pricey. :) Little chance of putting up one for "The .Org; where the elite meet to greet and..."

[Kralizec]

Jolly initiative. I think that lady in the guardian article might suffer from a persecution complex, though.

We have such advertisement in the Neth's to, except that they're at the bus stops instead on the verhicles.

[JAG]

Brilliant idea, brilliant goal in mind! I salute them.

[LittleGrizzly]

What a cool idea, and the fact that they have people not even living in the UK making donations shows some serious commitment...

Enlightenment, take 2, roll!

[Idaho]

Interesting Wiki article on London buses; seems they're a hybrid gov't/private outfit. With emphasis on "private", adverts for everything from cigarettes to atheism = OK. With emphasis on "gov't", maybe they've gotta be more discriminative.

At any rate, the advert cost seem a little pricey. :) Little chance of putting up one for "The .Org; where the elite meet to greet and..."

Transport in this country is a prime example of what a rip off the private public partnerships have been. Private companies cherry pick the best public services for limited term contracts and proceed to squeeze all the value out of the assets before either unjustly getting another term, or merely moving on to some other juicy contract. Meanwhile the less profitable sections that created a broader 'transport service' wither on the vine.

So we end up with high use, high cost skeleton services with really poor general provision and big profits. Thanks John Major!

[LittleGrizzly]

The UK version of privatisation seems to involve more money and less service, it seems to constantly be a good idea to privatise something new as well, im almost adamant that years down the line i will be seeing the terrible effects of privitisation across the NHS and when its the labour goverment thats doing it theres just nothing we can do about it

I suppose i should just file my usual LD vote

[KukriKhan]

Transport in this country is a prime example of what a rip off the private public partnerships have been. Private companies cherry pick the best public services for limited term contracts and proceed to squeeze all the value out of the assets before either unjustly getting another term, or merely moving on to some other juicy contract. Meanwhile the less profitable sections that created a broader 'transport service' wither on the vine.

So we end up with high use, high cost skeleton services with really poor general provision and big profits. Thanks John Major!

I thought for sure you'd be thanking Herhonour, Ms. Maggie.

But I agree: public transport is so vital a requirement for any city with a population over 1,000, that it ought not ever be run with an eye toward profit, or even break-even. It's a public service. Like a postal service or military service.

Sadly, I usually can't get my fellow citizens over here to agree with me either.

[LittleGrizzly]

I think the transport system should be run at a loss in an effort to provide a quick and versatile service so that those of who don't own cars don't fall even further behind when it comes to getting jobs (and a whole host of other reasons from students to pensioners and overcrowded roads, it makes huge amounts of sense from almost any angle you take on it....)

Hell who knows, once you've got the quick versatile service up and running it could even turn a profit by proving itself a much closer competitor to the car and making people take the bus as a serious consideration..

(quickly back onto topic) So ahh atheist advertising on buses.... great....

[atheotes]

not sure if this is a good idea... as much as i like to rile religious people and hate religions, i dont think 'a tit for tat' approach is necessary... it might give way to militant atheism which might be no better than organized religion....

[Rhyfelwyr]

Its OK, this bus is just the continuation of the religious German buses, fulfilling the prophecy.

Also Scientologists would be proud of such as scam.

[LittleGrizzly]

For those of us that are grizzly maybe the last scottish not welsh poster could clarify what he means.... i haven't got a clue about german religious busses and im missing the scam part as well...

[Rhyfelwyr]

For those of us that are grizzly maybe the last scottish not welsh poster could clarify what he means.... i haven't got a clue about german religious busses and im missing the scam part as well...

You're right, they weren't German they were just London buses, no idea where I got that from. Its a scam cause they've got lots of money from donations.

[LittleGrizzly]

Its a scam cause they've got lots of money from donations.

Wouldn't that make religions, charity's and political campaigns all scams as well (the last one's half true) if they're keeping the money and not buying advertising on buses then its a scam, but if they're using the money as stated then the fact the money's donated doesn't make it anymore of a scam than your average weekly collection at church...

[KarlXII]

That is just stupid! God DOES exist, it says so in a 2000 year old book revised numerous times!

Very original.

[AlexanderSextus]

right... Atheism... Atheism is retarded. A human brain is about the size of a basketball (roughly, i realize that a basketball is a bit bigger) Humans are on a planet, which in the scale of the size of the universe, is about the size of a speck of dust, which means humans are like 1/1000 the size of a speck of dust. Imagine how small that makes the human brain.

How could we be so conceited as to think we're smart enough to know god doesnt exist?!

Not that i'm a fan of religion or anything, Religion's retarded as well.

[Brenus]

“How could we be so conceited as to think we're smart enough to know god doesnt exist?!” For the same reason I know trolls and X-mass father don’t. I read stories about them however never have really met one of them. As such it isn’t THE proof they don’t exist, but it is a strong clue.

[HoreTore]

But I agree: public transport is so vital a requirement for any city with a population over 1,000, that it ought not ever be run with an eye toward profit, or even break-even. It's a public service. Like a postal service or military service.

I just realized I love you, Kukri.

[Fragony]

Too busy sponsoring the global warming private jet.

But I am off to a more stimulating thread now.

[AlexanderSextus]

“How could we be so conceited as to think we're smart enough to know god doesnt exist?!” For the same reason I know trolls and X-mass father don’t. I read stories about them however never have really met one of them. As such it isn’t THE proof they don’t exist, but it is a strong clue.

You cant compare the concept of a deity that created the universe to santa or trolls. We have traversed the globe and found no evidence of their existence. we can therefore say conclusively that they dont. However, being a dot on a speck in the universe hardly gives you the authority to claim god doesnt exist.

I've never seen Dark matter, but does that mean dark matter doesnt exist? Some people say it doesnt exist, some people say it does, but theres no way to know, because we cant detect it. Same with god.

Atheism is a negative position. It is extremely hard to prove a negative position. Atheism is illogical because it is illogical for humans to say there is no evidence for god, because no human can know all evidences or all activities in known creation. Its impossible to say that.

Since there is no evidence to date for the Atheistic position, Atheists must hold to their position, There is No God, By conviction. Another word for conviction is Faith... This exposes the hole in the Atheist argument that Believing in god by faith is not a logical basis of belief. Atheists are doing the same thing. Atheists get around this by simply by casting possible evidence for god into a hazy light.

If you were to say that there is a POSSIBILITY, that god doesnt exist, that's much better. There is ABSOLUTELY a possibility that god doesnt exist.

you cannot say that god doesnt exist because you are standing on a weak, and illogical foundation.

It is better to say that you dont see any convincing evidence of gods existence. However, lack of convincing evidence does not prove the atheistic position.

[Idaho]

You cant compare the concept of a deity that created the universe to santa or trolls. We have traversed the globe and found no evidence of their existence. we can therefore say conclusively that they dont. However, being a dot on a speck in the universe hardly gives you the authority to claim god doesnt exist.

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It is better to say that you dont see any convincing evidence of gods existence. However, lack of convincing evidence does not prove the atheistic position.

That's why the bus says there "probably" isn't a god, so stop worrying and enjoy yourselves

[pevergreen]

At any rate, the advert cost seem a little pricey. :) Little chance of putting up one for "The .Org; where the elite meet to greet and..."

"The .Org; where the elite meet to greet and...'bate




debate that is."

[Hosakawa Tito]

"The .Org; where the elite meet to greet and...'bate




demasterbate that is."

Fixed.

[Husar]

I know Asia doesn't exist because I've never seen it.

[CountArach]

Its a scam cause they've got lots of money from donations.

Wouldn't that make religions, charity's and political campaigns all scams as well

You mean... they aren't?

[pevergreen]

You mean... they aren't?

To quote the Chasers "Thank the lord for modern christianity!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRMmn1DNJi4