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    Quote Originally Posted by Ludens View Post
    Wow... I didn't get that until you did that. Epic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ziegenpeter View Post
    What makes you do so?
    Empiricism, and also it's a new engine. Additionally, the focus once again seems to be visual stuff.
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    Default Re: Will this be finished before Empires?

    @ Thread title
    I doubt it somewhat.

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    Don't worry, when EBII is released all notion of time and space will become irrelevant.
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    Well you'll all have the answer to this very existential question in 20 hours, for the last of us...

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    I'm a bit sad that EBII will not be a mod for ETW. I know the team has already expressed its opinion about this. But nevertheless I don't see so many advantages of M2TW over RTW. And EBI is a lot better than RTW and M2TW. The only flaw is the bad diplomacy AI. If this could not be corrected with M2TW (and it cannot I think) the efforts are in vain imho. Of course, if Bovi is right in his opinion about ETW AI, nothing matters...
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    Yeah, the tech-development, naval warfare, diplomacy without diplomats, unit recruitment, province management and all those other features in ETW seem vital for simulating the world of the Diadochi and the Punic Wars. Kind of makes you wish that the EB team would give MTW2 a pass. Of course, ETW engine isn't going anywhere, but I'm just worried about the increasing workload of the team. Undoubtedly many team members would like to see EBIII in the future, but hopefully they'll keep their goals safe and realistic. It's better to have no EBIII at all, than have someone dying for it. I just hope that at least models and textures are easily portable from MTW2 to ETW...
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    Default Re: Will this be finished before Empires?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hax View Post
    Don't worry, when EBII is released all notion of time and space will become irrelevant.
    We're getting closer to the Event Horizon as we speak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Subotan View Post
    We're getting closer to the Event Horizon as we speak.
    I do not wish to be spegettified by EB....

    anyways, i think the thread is now redundant: Empires is certainly on market, I'm buying it for my birthday (on saturday), and I'm off to get more dinosaur books, and fing info on the portuguese army (my work online).
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    Default Re: Will this be finished before Empires?

    Maybe someone should make a thread called, "Will EBII be finished before the summer?"


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    Quote Originally Posted by geala View Post
    I'm a bit sad that EBII will not be a mod for ETW. I know the team has already expressed its opinion about this. But nevertheless I don't see so many advantages of M2TW over RTW.
    I can agree with that. M2TW is just terrible. I've only tried two mods so far, but they don't seem to have been able to fix the terrible way units consistently ignore your orders or the ever stupid diplomacy AI. In ETW, not only are your units responsive again the diplomacy AI is reasonable. Everything has been streamlined, but not dumbed down, and I think the EB team could do some really special things with the new features.

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    Will EB2 be released before the ETW expansion is announced?
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    After playing some days ETW I have mixed feelings. In the end I think it seems still to be a wise decision of the EB team to stay with M2TW. The diplomacy in ETW is clearly a great improvement compared to older TW games, it is mostly very nice. I have experienced incredible things like other nations rationally asking for peace or accepting peace in certain situations. And an ally is an ally. The other features are not so revolutionary or interesting however. I already miss the abundance of diffferent units in EB and have blasphemic thoughts better to play further my new Lusotannan campaign instead of ETW. Mmmhh...
    Last edited by geala; 03-07-2009 at 11:58.
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    The AI in M2TW is moddable to a certain point.
    Whoever is able to understand german should give a try these mods:

    Who's not willing to play a german mod (Regnum Coelis or Reconquista to mention only 2 of them) can try Deus Lo Vult for example (the extreme turn lag should not be a problem to people addicted to EB ). Or Das Heilige Römische Reich 0.7.
    All these mods have a much more reasonable AI.
    The AI isn't that quick at accepting any truces but an alliance lasts a lot longer than in any RTW game/M2TW vanilla.

    I'm sure we will see an EBII diplomacy that is at least as good as the AI of the above mentioned mods.
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    Default Re: Will this be finished before Empires?

    BUMP

    Any news on how EBII is going?

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    Default Re: Will this be finished before Empires?

    There is a new preview on the Massylians, stickied as well. Why would you bump this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by A Very Super Market View Post
    There is a new preview on the Massylians, stickied as well. Why would you bump this?
    Because if you read my post I wanted to know how EBII is going.

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    Default Re: Will this be finished before Empires?

    All work has ended. EBII has been scrapped.

    What do you think they're going to say? It's going along.
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    Ok, don't be an ass. I hardly ever post on this site, I come here maybe once a month to check up on things. So theres no reason to be an ass, dude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hybr1d View Post
    I have a question for the modders: Is the campaign/ battlefield AI hardcoded in MTW? If it isn't, will you try and improve it? Because everybody says that the MTW2 AI is pretty bad.
    Quote Originally Posted by bovi View Post
    No. Yes. But it's not the first area we will focus on, as obviously we need the stats system set up first and some units to test with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hybr1d View Post
    Any news on how EBII is going?
    Well very fine, we just gave it a new ration of "petits-beurres" and it seems to be very happy of that! Oh and we just bought him some new clothes!!!

    More seriously you can either check our latest preview, or take a look to the EB Twitter.

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    Empire is out months ago, did someone necro this thread?

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    Is this going to be released before the APOCALYPS
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skullheadhq View Post
    Is this going to be released before the APOCALYPS
    If it is it won't really matter will it?


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    Since Empire has been out for a few months, maybe this thread has run its course? Oh, unless you meant 'will this be out before Empire is finished?', in that case, my money is on EB2. It looks like Empire will never be a 'finished' game.

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    Pretty unnecessary thread I think. Will close it on down.

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