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    So, I've been playing a game as the south Arabian faction(I still can never remember its proper name). I've been able to make some decent, solid progress taking the south and east of the Arabian Peninsula, up to Hormuz by 247. However... something really strange has happened twice. Once, a province smack in the west-central part of the Seleucid Empire(just west of Baghdad) rebelled and suddenly joined me. I had no possible way of reinforcing it, and the Seluecids promptly came in with an army, attacked the city, and buthered it. I finally got peace with the Seleucids after a while, but it was a bit annoying because I had trade rights with them. I had a similar incident occur with a rebel city in Nubia, just west of Aksum rebelling and joining me with seeminly no provocation. Again, I had no way of reinforcing it, and 5 turns later, the settlement got butchered by the Ptolomoi. What exactly is going on, eh?
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    Exclamation Re: Strange province behavior...

    Those towns have the Saba as their culture slot, meaning they will rebel to the Saba if owned by another faction. This causes you to go to war with the previous owner of those rebellious towns.

    Now, kill them all.

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    Thank you. Now, as for slaying Ptolemoi and the Seleucids at once...
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    Oh, that problem. I had to deal with them before as well. And I was an idiot too for leaving the settings on VH/VH. Arche Seleukia will probably be too far away to pose much of a threat. The Ptolemies will be the mess. But they send small stacks over, nothing like a giant invasion force ("Yellow Death").

    The Ptolemaic armies didn't do so great when confronted by Red Sea Hoplites. I'd use them to hold the lines while other units come in from behind. It scares the enemies and their morale drops. It's useful since Saba lacks any real shock units.
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    As an example to better help your understanding of the topic at hand, Cyrene has a knack for rebelling to the Seleucids, causing an immediate war between the Seleucids and whoever owned that town first (usually the Carthaginians or Ptolemaics). Also, Ankyra tends to rebel to the Arverni, although they will sometimes rebel to the Eleutheroi as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Methuselah View Post
    As an example to better help your understanding of the topic at hand, Cyrene has a knack for rebelling to the Seleucids, causing an immediate war between the Seleucids and whoever owned that town first (usually the Carthaginians or Ptolemaics). Also, Ankyra tends to rebel to the Arverni, although they will sometimes rebel to the Eleutheroi as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Methuselah View Post
    As an example to better help your understanding of the topic at hand, Cyrene has a knack for rebelling to the Seleucids, causing an immediate war between the Seleucids and whoever owned that town first (usually the Carthaginians or Ptolemaics). Also, Ankyra tends to rebel to the Arverni, although they will sometimes rebel to the Eleutheroi as well.
    How exactly did the EB team come to these conclusions? I mean, how did they figure that a Nubians had such strong ethnic bonds with southern Arabians?
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    Quote Originally Posted by seireikhaan View Post
    How exactly did the EB team come to these conclusions? I mean, how did they figure that a Nubians had such strong ethnic bonds with southern Arabians?
    Every province needs to have somebody to rebel to, a lot of the time the faction chosen is far from perfect but better than anyone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seireikhaan View Post
    How exactly did the EB team come to these conclusions? I mean, how did they figure that a Nubians had such strong ethnic bonds with southern Arabians?
    I believe that historically there was alot of contact between East Africa and what we know as Arabia. If the old Pharoah games by Sierra () are to believe, there was alot of trade going on between the two areas. After all, you can either spend a week in the desert where there are bandits and general crappiness by walking through the Sinai or just sail straight across the gulf of Aqaba/Aden.
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    I would look at it this way... if you are a nubian city and want to declare independance from the regional superpower, it helps to make a friend of a powerful neighbour... even if you aren't that culturally close....


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