Extended Offices Mod

[maxborgatti]

hi guys, my first post, sorry if my english is not so fluent, and if i'll go a little bit off topic
congratulations to you all: i really think you did a great job with this mod. i tried yesterday, applied past plenty of other mods (rtw + alex + eb 1.2 + fixes + city mod + alex fixes + realistic movements + no-"californian"-trees + and so on), working fine. as to me, it's for sure mod-compatible. maybe skipping legionary_buggy_name and go working on ancillaries seemed a simple idea, but you got to have it in your brain, and you had

just to return in-topic for a while, mikhail, i suppose that if you installed the (Atraphoenix?) mod correctly, it may be an issue regarding the event conditions. i'm a programmer, taking a quick look at the code, i can read something like that in the settlement related to the ancillary you need at least a governors palace, that it's not possible for faction leader/heir, there's a random percent of success, etc...

[Atraphoenix]

Sorry, i'm using the mod, i've started a Baktrian campaign and i would like to see that new "ancillaries".

I have a great FM who has 10 menagement and 10 influence, with 5 command stars, and still don't get any office...

I've conquered the eleutherioi's cities between the old Seleucid border and the indian cities, reaching the persian gulf, and 2 seleucid cities (before attacking them, i've forced them to rebel thanks to my spies) Alexandreia Ariana and Propthasia.

Why aren't my FM getting any office? THey have less than 8 ancillaries.

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Trigger acquire_baktrian_satrapy_arachosia : name of ancillary
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd : you can get after you press end turn button
Condition FactionType romans_brutii : you can only get this ancillary if you play with baktria
and EndedInSettlement : your general or FM stayed in a city
and RemainingMPPercentage = 100 : and did not move during the turn
and IsGeneral : FM or general not spy / diplomat
and not IsFactionHeir : is not faction heir
and not IsFactionLeader : is not faction leader
and SettlementName Alexandropolis : must stay in the defined city
and SettlementBuildingExists >= governors_palace : the settlement should be at least a city
and Attribute SenateStanding < 11 : order of ancillaries in fact it is hardly to express its details
and not FactionwideAncillaryExists baktrian_satrapy_of_arachosia : there is no other ancillary / prevents getting the ancillary more than once
and RandomPercent > 90 : if you comlete this conditions %90 your FM will get ancillary

AcquireAncillary baktrian_satrapy_of_arachosia Chance 100
Affects NumAncillariesAcquired 1 Chance 100 : these two lines are untouchable parts but you have to code like that to get ancillary

you needn't any defined city to get archistrategos and dioiketes.

for satrapies/strategos governors : you should have : Nisa, Alexandropolis, Patala, Baktra and these cities should be at least a city not large town or town.

if it does not help:

put at least 2 or more FMs to that city,
plus I can confess that rookie generals (no ancillary or young) can get than legendary ones I do not why but my 9 star general could not get one satrapy but a new comes of age general took it in the second turn.

if it does not help use the code:

give_ancillary "character name" "catamite" gives a spy or assassin this ancillary= +1 subterfuge
give_ancillary "character name" "courtesan(ancillary)" gives a spy or assassin this ancillary= +1 subterfuge

P.S. and reading previous messages also helps.

[Mikhail Mengsk]

Ok, the cities are just too little to trigger it, thanks!

[Atraphoenix]

You're welcome, no problem for me
Unfortunately I am the only submodder of EB who mods ancillaries.
methinks I will stay alone until EB2.lol!

[Atraphoenix]

I will upload Achaemenid Satrapies Edition after frontie works again.
It has no other change than historical Achaemenid Satrapies that is stated in Behistun Incription.
I just want to allow pahlava lovers to role play to revive Achaemenid Empire under Pahlava banner.
I hope the maintenance of frontie does not take too much.

Edited: I have uploaded EOM Achaemenid Satrapies Edition you can download from this link or from the first message.

http://files.filefront.com/EOM+Versi.../fileinfo.html

[Mikhail Mengsk]

savegame compatible?

[Atraphoenix]

savegame compatible?

You can continue your previous games but it mixes files, so I advice new campaign.
Beware, trait and ancillary files causes some bugs but not CTDs (experinece) if you continue your save game like this.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

[Mikhail Mengsk]

thanks!

[Skullheadhq]

I keep getting a CTD at turn 3
v3
nvm fixed it by putting the export_ancillaries in the text folder

[Atraphoenix]

Please read the download instructions first, as I do not know how to make an install exe you have to perform whole process without any mistake.
Namely, if you fail to replace my mod files even one, it causes CTD.
I was happy to hear you could finally manage to work it.

[Skullheadhq]

Please read the download instructions first, as I do not know how to make an install exe you have to perform whole process without any mistake.
Namely, if you fail to replace my mod files even one, it causes CTD.
I was happy to hear you could finally manage to work it.

go look there, at the freeware version: http://www.clickteam.com/eng/installcreator.php
Good enough for me.

edit: lol my 400th post already?

[Atraphoenix]

Thanks mate, will try it.
also Congrat

[french-legionairy]

hi ,

nice mod. im playing as the romans, i have 55 cities under control but the named legions didnt appear yet

please help

i plan also to begin a new caimaign with parthia. all iwantto know is what are the conditions to trigger tha ancillaries ( build baracks level 3?, upgrade to a large city?)

[Atraphoenix]

hi ,

nice mod. im playing as the romans, i have 55 cities under control but the named legions didnt appear yet

please help

i plan also to begin a new caimaign with parthia. all iwantto know is what are the conditions to trigger tha ancillaries ( build baracks level 3?, upgrade to a large city?)

did you change marian reform trigger in EBBS script?
if not you have to wait until you conquer 90 cities
I reduced mine to 50.
my offices does not depend on marian reforms any more so you may get offices at 50 cities earlier than named legions.

plus you are asking in the wrong thread but no problem anyway I made both mods.

for pahlava any city can trigger but sure they are certain cities. so you have to make heka, persepolis etc. at least a normal city.

[Atraphoenix]

My last version of EOM V:4 Carthaginian Governors has been uploaded.
This will be my last EOM Version before EB2 will be released.
As I have idea what kind of government system EB team will use for EB2, I am not sure whether there will be EOM for EB2 or not.

Have fun and enjoy my last version.

Atra

[SilverShield]

sorry for being such a noob but do i have to install the office mod into the rome folder or the rome/EB folder? like c:\games\rome or c:\games\rome\EB ?
and is there a chance to immediately find out when i start the game whether it worked ? (just wanna make sure i did nothing wrong...)

thanks Chris

[Atraphoenix]

Just choose where your RTW is located most players put RTW C:/Program Files/Activision/Rome - Total War. mine is on D:/Program Files/Activision/Rome - Total War so just find your link for your total war folder .
not C:/Program Files/Activision/Rome - Total War/EB

to check whether my mod is installed or not just open EB folder then EB Data folder find export_descr_ancillaries.txt in EB Data folder.
open it then press ctrl+f write Atraphoenix if you see these lines :

;===============================================================
;== ANCILLARY TRIGGERS START HERE ==============================
;===============================================================
;===============================================================
;Roman Provincial Government Triggers - EOM 4 by Atraphoenix
;===============================================================

you did it.
My last version EOM4 is an install.exe but the previous ones were manual copy paste. so do not mix them. If you like previous ones you have to copy paste them manually.


I hope it helps.
and welcome to the org.

Atra.

[SilverShield]

thanks for the fast answer! i ll try it now and see whether it works. thanks Chris

[Atraphoenix]

thanks for the fast answer! i ll try it now and see whether it works. thanks Chris

you're welcome,
I hope you'll enjoy playing.

[french-legionairy]

im playing hayasdan. unfortunately th hai dont have the commander in chief trait.

do you know how to add this trait?

[Atraphoenix]

im playing hayasdan. unfortunately th hai dont have the commander in chief trait.

do you know how to add this trait?

I do not know and I could not find anybody who can help me to add so I just added achaemenid titles as ı wanted to show them as successor to to them.
so if you know someone who knows Armenian and if he/she can tell me this title in Armenian it is easy to add.

I also did not put for carthage because I had same problem. If you decide to use achaemenid title
you can add Spahbed / Spahbod but it is a very long explanation. just copy parthian Eran Spahbed in descr_ancillaries and export_descr_ancillaries and changed the id by addin armaenian_ instaead of parthian_spahbed or if no parthian id just add armenian_spahbed / armenian_eran_spahbed
if you forget to change each id RTW crashes with 2 ANCİLLARY WİTH SAME NAME/ID

[french-legionairy]

I do not know and I could not find anybody who can help me to add so I just added achaemenid titles as ı wanted to show them as successor to to them.
so if you know someone who knows Armenian and if he/she can tell me this title in Armenian it is easy to add.

I also did not put for carthage because I had same problem. If you decide to use achaemenid title
you can add Spahbed / Spahbod but it is a very long explanation. just copy parthian Eran Spahbed in descr_ancillaries and export_descr_ancillaries and changed the id by addin armaenian_ instaead of parthian_spahbed or if no parthian id just add armenian_spahbed / armenian_eran_spahbed
if you forget to change each id RTW crashes with 2 ANCİLLARY WİTH SAME NAME/ID

THANKS FOR YOUR RESPONSE. if i find a player who knows how to mod it ill call u. i think chenkai may help me. hes a great fan of hayasdan but he is on tw center forums. ill keep u in touch with him if he nows wat to do

[Atraphoenix]

modding ancillaries is easy part, what we need is Armenian equivalence of Commander-in-Chief in ancient Armenia.

[Nyz]

Hi Atra,

I just want to make some suggestions for the Hayasdan Office:

a) instead of the word Xsaçapāvan, I think the governor/Satrap in Hayasdan were called Marzpan / Marzban (Persian) or Marzpet (New armenian), from the word Marz (province) and pan / ban (keeper, in persian)

This is according to the type II and III government for Hayasdan in EB, which were called Arkaiakan Marz (royal satrapy / province) and Marz (Province). So, for the satrap of hayasdan, it can be named "Hayasdan Marzpet", instead of "Xsaçapāvan e Hayasdan"

So for the references:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marzpan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adminis...ons_of_Armenia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marzpanate_Period


Other Offices:

b) Hai Sparapet, equivalent to the Parthian "Eran Spahbed" (Commander-in-Chief)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sparapet



c) Aspet (Master of the horse)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspet



d) Hazarapet, (Minister of the Interior, public works and finance), maybe equivalent to the Parthian "Hazarbed"

http://www.iranica.com/newsite/index.../v12f1082.html

Thanks

[Atraphoenix]

I have noted them, so I need to prapare a new release.
Thanks mate,
I wish I could find anyone who can give the same infos for Phoenicians (namely for carthage)..

[Nyz]

Hi Atra,

I noted that the Armenian call the region surround them by their local name, I'll list some, maybe it can help you to make the governor titles for Hayasdan.

Region Name in EB / Name of City in EB - Old Armenian

a) Hayasdan / Armavir – Hayasdan
b) Pokr Hayk / Ani-Kamah – Pokr Hayk’
c) Sophene / Karkathiokerta – Cop’k’
d) Aghvan / Kabalaka – Aghuank’
e) Adurbagadan / Phraaspa – Atrpatakan
f) Egrisi / Kotais – Lazistan
g) Kartli / Mtskheta – Vrastan
h) Kappadokia / Mazaka – Kapadovkia
i) Media / Ekbatana - Marastan
j) Persis / Persepolis – Parskastan
k) Assyrie / Eddesa – Asorik’
l) Mesopotamia / Seleukia – Miǰagetk’ (literally “middle river”)

I'll add more if i have the infos.

[Atraphoenix]

Hi Atra,

I noted that the Armenian call the region surround them by their local name, I'll list some, maybe it can help you to make the governor titles for Hayasdan.

Region Name in EB / Name of City in EB - Old Armenian

a) Hayasdan / Armavir – Hayasdan
b) Pokr Hayk / Ani-Kamah – Pokr Hayk’
c) Sophene / Karkathiokerta – Cop’k’
d) Aghvan / Kabalaka – Aghuank’
e) Adurbagadan / Phraaspa – Atrpatakan
f) Egrisi / Kotais – Lazistan
g) Kartli / Mtskheta – Vrastan
h) Kappadokia / Mazaka – Kapadovkia
i) Media / Ekbatana - Marastan
j) Persis / Persepolis – Parskastan
k) Assyrie / Eddesa – Asorik’
l) Mesopotamia / Seleukia – Miǰagetk’ (literally “middle river”)

I'll add more if i have the infos.

Lazistan is a middle age name for the Lazic kingdom that ruled easthern part of black sea reagion and around Batumi. Sakartvelo is our own name for Georgia but Kartli / Egrisi are latin names they even used iberia for the eastern part of modern Georgia. That is how we call her (I am georgian) but no idea how armenians. for others I see no problem. and we need a minister of finance and prime minister as we solved commander-in-chief.

PS. Armenian alphabet is harder to concert latin even harder than Georgian Alphabet.
It's unique, but I like uniqueness abut I have no chance to understand a person from Tbilisi. even our accents, is a nightmare for foreigners.

[Nyz]

Ohh I see.

I know that the native name for Georgia is Sakartvelo and the people called themselves kartvelebi.. As for Lazistan, I think it was derived from Persian word:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egrisi

Because of the Persian influence, I think the Armenian call that region "Lazistan".


For Kartli, I think Armenian call Georgia "Vrastan"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenians_in_Georgia


For other Offices, maybe you can check this:

http://www.iranica.com/newsite/index...v2f4a071a.html

Look at the section : "Iranian Loanwords in Armenian" beginning at paragraph "title are abundant....."
But I think the offices were used during the period of Sassanid, not enough evidence that the Offices were used before that....

[bigmilt16]

Great Mod,

I am using VT's adaptations and noticed something interesting... Only Senators with mid-high influence may be assigned an legionary flag. The tribune cannot merely leave a city to receive their assignment. I use this to roleplay a governor, praetor, or consul assigning legions to junior commanders.

Is there a particular trigger to actually receive the ancillary once I get the 3 new regions? Do I need a particular FM to get it?

[Atraphoenix]

Great Mod,

I am using VT's adaptations and noticed something interesting... Only Senators with mid-high influence may be assigned an legionary flag. The tribune cannot merely leave a city to receive their assignment. I use this to roleplay a governor, praetor, or consul assigning legions to junior commanders.

Is there a particular trigger to actually receive the ancillary once I get the 3 new regions? Do I need a particular FM to get it?

yes ancillaries are coded like that. you do not need any particular FM (unless he has 8 ancillaries of course)