I fought some costume battles against the AI, no outflanking, no great strategies, nearly no battlemanagement,
grassland map,
medium.
Koinon Hellenon (7 Hoplitai) vs. Romani (7 Principes Polybian)
#1 Koinon Hellenon vs. Romani (AI)
#2 Koinon Hellenon vs. Romani (AI)
#3 Koinon Hellenon (with guardmode on) vs. Romani (AI)
#4 Romani vs. Koinon Hellenon (AI)
#5 Romani vs. Koinon Hellenon (AI)
#6 Romani (with guardmode on) vs. Koinon Hellenon
Here are the replay files, put them into your Europabarorum1.2/EB/replays folder.
Hoplitai (#1,#2,#3) without guardmode had no chance, with guardmode pyric victory.
Principes (#4, #5, #6) won all 3 battles easely even with guardmode off.
So my opinion is, that Hoplites are no match (without support) for Principes, that's ok, they are outdated how
Drewski already said. But remember, Principes are availabel at MIC level 2, Hoplitai at MIC level 3. Also Principes (Polybian) are with 1185 mnai cheaper then Hoplitai.
If you make them weaker that would be a problem for KH, who have no better standard line infantery, Thorakitai are even worser as line infantery. Thorakitai Hoplitai are only slightly better (higher morale) then Thorakitai. Whats left are the Epilektoi Hoplitai (high costs) or the Koinon Hellenon Phalangitai (only available after MoT). The KH really depends on these Hoplitai (before the MoT). At the moment they are just weak against Principes, but if you take them their bonuses, they would be even weaker. That's why I say, that they should stay as they are or get something in exchange (defence bonus, lower density).
As for the Phalangitai, I agree, they are overpowered in EB (my opinion) and should get a weaker attack, their Phalanx ability makes them still a good line infantery.
I'm not against your change
Drewski (the opposite, I really think that the Phalanx units should get a weaker attack too). But as a KH Player I have to say, that Holites already perform weak against swordunits (especially Romani). Of course, a human player still has no problem with that and it's historical correct, but to make Hoplites even weaker as they are now (see the battleresults again) makes no sense for me.
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