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    I split the Belgian talk from the Where is EB made thread.
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    Aha! I see one fellow countryman :D Moros, where are you from?
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    Burns: I still have a hard time figuring out what the heck his name is or means...
    Apoc: Yes, I have wondered that, as well. A Google search brought up:
    Wimpy Tjeh: The great Belgian warrior, most famous for dropping his pants at the Battle of Someplaceinbelgumandnotinthenetherlands, and shouting to the Roman archers: 'Here's a target for jeh!' Also known as Wimpy of the Sore Ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WImPyTjeH View Post
    Aha! I see one fellow countryman :D Moros, where are you from?


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    Moros is from Jan 2005!

    Such a ripe age and already knowing so much!
    BLARGH!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jolt View Post
    Moros is from Jan 2005!

    Such a ripe age and already knowing so much!
    Yeah well I'm going for Mensa presidency when I get 6.

    Edit: anyway. Perhaps we should leave Mensa and polar bears aside for now.
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    Weird, I usually see more people asking things like: "Belgium... isn't that a city in France? Or isn't that the capital of Brussels" when I speak about it
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    Burns: I still have a hard time figuring out what the heck his name is or means...
    Apoc: Yes, I have wondered that, as well. A Google search brought up:
    Wimpy Tjeh: The great Belgian warrior, most famous for dropping his pants at the Battle of Someplaceinbelgumandnotinthenetherlands, and shouting to the Roman archers: 'Here's a target for jeh!' Also known as Wimpy of the Sore Ass.

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    Can you send me some chocolate, Moros?
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    Quote Originally Posted by antisocialmunky View Post
    Can you send me some chocolate, Moros?
    Or beer?
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    Burns: I still have a hard time figuring out what the heck his name is or means...
    Apoc: Yes, I have wondered that, as well. A Google search brought up:
    Wimpy Tjeh: The great Belgian warrior, most famous for dropping his pants at the Battle of Someplaceinbelgumandnotinthenetherlands, and shouting to the Roman archers: 'Here's a target for jeh!' Also known as Wimpy of the Sore Ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WImPyTjeH View Post
    Weird, I usually see more people asking things like: "Belgium... isn't that a city in France? Or isn't that the capital of Brussels" when I speak about it
    People who play EB usually know where Belgica is, so...

    From which part of Belgium are you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mediolanicus View Post
    People who play EB usually know where Belgica is, so...

    From which part of Belgium are you?
    Yeah that's right you were as well, were you not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moros View Post
    Yeah that's right you were as well, were you not?
    Yep, from the village of escaped convicts and baby-killers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mediolanicus View Post
    Yep, from the village of escaped convicts and baby-killers.
    Oh yeah.

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    Sounds like a prime vacation spot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mediolanicus View Post
    People who play EB usually know where Belgica is, so...

    From which part of Belgium are you?
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    Burns: I still have a hard time figuring out what the heck his name is or means...
    Apoc: Yes, I have wondered that, as well. A Google search brought up:
    Wimpy Tjeh: The great Belgian warrior, most famous for dropping his pants at the Battle of Someplaceinbelgumandnotinthenetherlands, and shouting to the Roman archers: 'Here's a target for jeh!' Also known as Wimpy of the Sore Ass.

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    Yep, from the village of escaped convicts and baby-killers.
    which one?
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    The village of escaped convicts and baby-killers.
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    Wait, Belgium is a constitutional monarchy? I thought it was a republic '.'.
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    You mean there's some meaningful difference ?
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    One has a heriditary group of people to feed, one that I didn't know existed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WImPyTjeH View Post
    Flemish Brabant (Vlaams Brabant for you probably :P) - Zemst
    I always dislike to see those old provinces devided, I'm kind of hoping for the Netherlands and Flanders to join together, then we could have non devided provinces again.

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    Bah, Flemish people in our mighty little country?
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    Quote Originally Posted by antisocialmunky View Post
    Wait, Belgium is a constitutional monarchy? I thought it was a republic '.'.
    Yes, Belgium is a kingdom. A federal constitutional monarchy to be exact.

    The communities and region do have a minister-president each. For Flanders this is Kris Peeters at the moment.

    (Yes the Belgium structure of the state is unexplainable to foreigners... Though I can always try - it's my area of expertise after all.)

    Maybe that's why you thought it was a republic.

    Where going off topic, aren't we?

    Quote Originally Posted by Watchman View Post
    You mean there's some meaningful difference ?
    Well, except for putting his autograph under federal laws.. not really...
    Not since Leopold II bought his own little private playground which Belgium than had to take over after his death.

    Quote Originally Posted by Phalanx300 View Post
    I always dislike to see those old provinces devided, I'm kind of hoping for the Netherlands and Flanders to join together, then we could have non devided provinces again.
    That would give the same problems as the current division in Belgium. Different history, different culture, even different language - although both are Dutch.


    yep, definitely off topic...
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    So its basically a feudal structure with the Democracy Service Pack 2?
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    Quote Originally Posted by antisocialmunky View Post
    So its basically a feudal structure with the Democracy Service Pack 2?

    No, because the communities and the regions aren't hierarchically under or above the federation
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    Quote Originally Posted by antisocialmunky View Post
    So its basically a feudal structure with the Democracy Service Pack 2?
    *cough* Please re-read the definition of feudalism. PROTIP: incompatible with the Westphalian sovereign state.
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    There is no Feudal Structure in Belgium. Belgium is composed of 2 or 3 ("republics") which in turn make up the federation; much like the USA is comprised of fairly autonomous S-thingies, you know Utah, Wisconsin and the like. The monarchy is merely a decorative thing: a bit like if we are going to throw money away via a President who is bound to make a "favour" or two, why not do it legally ... and simply pay the clan an over-the-top salary and expense-claims?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tellos Athenaios View Post
    There is no Feudal Structure in Belgium. Belgium is composed of 2 or 3 ("republics") which in turn make up the federation; much like the USA is comprised of fairly autonomous S-thingies, you know Utah, Wisconsin and the like.
    Yeah, overly simplyfied, but that's the broad picture.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mediolanicus View Post
    No, because the communities and the regions aren't hierarchically under or above the federation
    Okay, I see. You learn something new everyday. You guys could have just said federation of republics. I thought you were talking about some sort of 3-4 tiered hierarchy of federal government that went down to the city level or something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by antisocialmunky View Post
    Okay, I see. You learn something new everyday. You guys could have just said federation of republics. I thought you were talking about some sort of 3-4 tiered hierarchy of federal government that went down to the city level or something.
    Belgian system is extremely complex, don't try to uderstand it, since it won't exist anymore in 20 years or something
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skullheadhq View Post
    Belgian system is extremely complex, don't try to uderstand it, since it won't exist anymore in 20 years or something
    Had a quick look at wikipedia. Seems similar to the system in Australia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mediolanicus View Post
    That would give the same problems as the current division in Belgium. Different history, different culture, even different language - although both are Dutch.
    Not really, we have a great shared History, culture and language. We are one people, mainly Frankish.

    And besides, our parts of Brabant and Liburg are basicly the same as Flanders and they do just fine, or better then fine. And the people of Zeeuws-Vlaanderen, they are Flemish and also no problems, things better then fine.

    I always see the Netherlans as different Provinces united in one country. I don't really see it Dutch and Flemish. Rather: Hollandic, Frisian, Brabantic, Limburgic, Flemish etc.

    I mean this map is pretty good proof of the Low Lands:



    There is no clear devision between Northern and Southern, it actually goes combined.

    I gues its a big dream to one day see all the Provinces united, how Willem van Oranje wanted it as well.

    Edit: Its a picture from 14th century, so it definately goes back a long way.
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