Coats of Arms

[_Tristan_]

Deguerra, I'm open to suggestions... for more kingly arms...

I wanted my CoA to reflect the powers of the King both in times of peace (wheat ear) and in times of war (sword)...

[deguerra]

perhaps a sceptre rather than the wheat? wheat seems so peasanty to me :D

but in general, i feel that we need something else. will have a think.

i'm afraid my internet is a bit...dead at the moment, should hopefully be better soon, so downloading .svg files is proving difficult

[_Tristan_]

No bother... I'll trust you to find something right...

[deguerra]

AG:

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[deguerra]

slight edit to ze dragon, specifically its wings:

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[AussieGiant]

slight edit to ze dragon, specifically its wings:

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Ohh!!

No king reference...hmmm...let me think a bit.

You're really good at this.

[deguerra]

there is that fleur de lys for the king, but yeah nothing beyond that. otherwise it gets way too crowded i think

[Ignoramus]

Off-topic: Is there a list of who's who regarding starting characters? I understand AG is Duke of Brittany and Tristan is king, but I only found that out from reading this thread - it'd be so much easier to remember if there was a list posted somewhere.

And it looks as if I'll have to be very careful with Tristan as king.

[deguerra]

mkay Tristan, here's an idea:

wheat replaced by sceptre, add the Oriflamme (alleged banner of Charlemagne, as you may well know http://www.crwflags.com/FOTW/FLAGS/fr_orif.html and battle flag of French Kings) in the background for some more French (well Frankish) symbolism. Waddaya think?

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edit: there appears to be at least one other version of the Oriflamme, which does its name slightly more justice. None the less, I do kinda like the flowery one:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped.../Oriflamme.png

[AussieGiant]

Ok deg. I'm sticking with your latest version.

The fleur de lys is subtle but there.

It's some how a bit too orange and red though. Can you help?

[deguerra]

well currently we've got the colours on one side reversed on the other. I can add some different colours (ie make the dragon green), but that may make it too busy. Will see how it looks.

[AussieGiant]

Hang on.

Radical suggestion.

Make the main back shield the white and blue Britanny shield.

Then stick a small Rohan shield with the red back ground and yellow diamonds in the upper left.

Put the Kings shield bottom right and stick the red saxon dragon in the middle.

What do you think?

[deguerra]

to be honest, i think it will be too many shields with not enough nice subdivisions. but i will show you how it looks, i could be wrong.

in the meantime, here's one alternate colour scheme:

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[AussieGiant]

hmm that's certainly better.

The yellow fleur de lys seems a little hazy though.

[deguerra]

so here's your suggestion:

personally, I think there are too many stand-alone bitsies without something to hold them together, but let me know what you think:

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as for the other one, i've darkened the border of the fleur de lys:

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[AussieGiant]

Ok mine looks crap.

you can just say that Deg

So last idea before I leave you alone.

Turn the dragon red and put the French kings shield (Light blue and little fleurs) on the bottom right diagonal section.

[deguerra]

nah its not crap, and most importantly its not about what I like.

anyway, is this what you had in mind?

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[AussieGiant]

Yes that's what I had in mind.

But again too busy.

[Ramses II CP]

When you get a minute Prince Louis will no doubt need a CoA as well. I'm really not particular, something martial with perhaps some family elements drawn from the King's own.

[deguerra]

well, as the Dauphin and Duke of Aquitaine, you will need quite a bit incorporated I will dream something up

[deguerra]

ok, so its not got anything martial, but i do like the symetry of it all and the colours. aquitaine and the arms of the dauphin, with the royal arms in the middle. what do you think?

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[deguerra]

AG: started from scratch, more or less, to see if we could make something else work better and less cluttered. thoughts?:

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[Ramses II CP]

ok, so its not got anything martial, but i do like the symetry of it all and the colours. aquitaine and the arms of the dauphin, with the royal arms in the middle. what do you think?

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I like it, but would it be possible to angle a sword or mace across the center shield? Louis is meant for war.

[deguerra]

Louis the Fat?

stand by

[deguerra]

all right, gave you two maces. figured fatty would need all the help he can get . also darkened the lions to match the other yellows:

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[Ramses II CP]

all right, gave you two maces. figured fatty would need all the help he can get . also darkened the lions to match the other yellows:

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Pah, he ain't fat yet!

I actually liked the Lions the lighter shade of yellow. It helped them stand out. Other'n that, looks perfect, thanks DG!

[deguerra]

very well, here you have your wrongly yellow lions . added an unfortunately small one for your siggy:

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[Ramses II CP]

very well, here you have your wrongly yellow lions . added an unfortunately small one for your siggy:

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Much appreciated!

[Ignoramus]

Dolphins meant for war?

[deguerra]

they are very scary dolphins. big too. have you ever been bitten by a dolphin?

nah dolphin for the dauphin