An Occultus Faction possibly worked out?

[WinsingtonIII]

Perhaps we are looking at this the wrong way. So far most people have assumed that the symbol is facing left. IMHO we should look at it as if it were facing right. From the right it looks to me like an elk or bison.

My assumption was always that it was facing right, I didn't realize most people were looking at it as if it were facing left; that could certainly explain why I was not seeing some of the things people were suggesting.

I used to think it was a bull, but now I'm not so sure. If it is a bull, the hump is very large and stylized (which, of course, it very well could be). I think the hump may well be wings as some were suggesting, which suggests a griffin, dragon, or other legendary beast.

[MButcher]

It may be my imagination, but I see hooves on the bottom.

[Cyclops]

Cthulu is Dagonic?...

Well his name for it is unpronouncable...

...Don't they teach you kids the Necronomicon in school any more?...

Sblood, thou stinkard, I'll learn ye how to gust! Wolde ye swynke me thilke wys?

...Cthulu is r'lyehic. Or maybe Vhoorlian...

puh-leeeese. Justy because a nameless entity is born in a stable doesn't make it a horse. R'lyeh is just the city where dead Cthulhu lies dreaming.

Vhoorl, well you certainly have me there, wiki mentions a reference to it in Whisperer in Darkness: i had not registered that is was a HP reference. I guess "Nameless-gulfs-beyond Time-and-Space-ian" would break the culture limit.

I equated him with the children of Dagon because of the shared motif of Pacific sea-floor buildings occasionally surfacing (Dagon and Call of Cthulhu both feature this). Also Dagonic is pretty mucht he same as Punic so it'd fit.

...On topic though, I think it kind of looks like a lion, with the head being at the far right of the picture.

Maybe there's been a lurch back in favour of Cyrenaica? Or a second Numidian area faction? Oooh, African complexity!

[Glewas]

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All the talk about an animal facing right, then bulls, then bulls w/humps (Indian bulls, brahman bull, etc) led me on a google image search to the above. Search for "nandi" and you can see a lot more. Nothing exact, but there is a resemblance...

I don't remember how I got there (searching for bull coins I think) I came upon something of an Indo-Scythian empire that existed in EB's timeframe. Not that I follow much of the technical info regarding culture slots and whatnot, but if there isn't one available for an Indian faction, would the Scythian/Saka aspect allow these guys to fit - that is if they meet all the other requrements of an EB faction?

[Hannibal Khan the Great]

The Indo-Scythians are represented in EB by the Saka Rauka taking over Baktria and India, along with the resulting reforms.

[stratigos vasilios]

Hmmm to me it kind of looks like a cat? I tried to throw it in paint, inverse colours and follow along with the pencil... and while I was playing connect the dots I think I drew a cat... and a cat, to me, indicates an Egyptian region faction? Any chance it could be a faction nearby/underneath the Ptolmey? (btw apologies if this idea has already surfaced, I am struggling for time and failed to read earlier pages).

[anubis88]

Hmmm to me it kind of looks like a cat? I tried to throw it in paint, inverse colours and follow along with the pencil... and while I was playing connect the dots I think I drew a cat... and a cat, to me, indicates an Egyptian region faction? Any chance it could be a faction nearby/underneath the Ptolmey? (btw apologies if this idea has already surfaced, I am struggling for time and failed to read earlier pages).

Unfortunatly Axum/Meroe (south of Egypt) will not be in the mod IIRC...

[Murtagh]

Hi.

I have been following this forum for quite a long time now, but I haven't registred until recently.

I'm wondering about the small detail between the letters "T" and "U".
Can it be a part of the symbol itself, like a tooth or an arrowhead? Or is it a mountain/peak in the background?
If it is a tooth, we know more clearely that the symbol shows a predator or some mythological creature. If it a mountain however. Now that might give a geographical clue.

What do you think?

[Phalanx300]

The extreme right part definately looks like an mouth, and seeing all the other lines howing muscle etc its definately an animal as well.

[stratigos vasilios]

Unfortunatly Axum/Meroe (south of Egypt) will not be in the mod IIRC...

What about west of Egypt? :P

Hmm but I think I read somewhere Kyrene was ruled out as a faction? I can imagine the EB members having a jolly good laugh at this thread, "they guessed that? suckers..." hehehe

[Tellos Athenaios]

I certainly do find it an entertaining read. It's amazing what potential for creativity and resourcefulness you can unlock by not telling people. We should do this more often. Perhaps even make entire previews occultus like this. Just imagine.

[Unintended BM]

I see a lion.

[Brennus]

I see a lion.

Run!

[Macilrille]

LOL Brennus :D Dat was funny, a balloon for your quick wit ;-)

Fun to watch the guesstimates here, they do wander a bit.
You getting closer?
Or further away?
I cannot say,
for the trail of logic looses me ;-)

/Me is happy to work for good and patient fans

[Brennus]

Thanks Macilrille! I will add it to Archippos balloon when I have figured out how to do so.

This faction looks like it could be a real gem of a surprise. The way I see it EBII is turning out to be a great feast, and if a feast is gonna be good you want all the food served at the right time and properly cooked, rushing it is just gonna spoil the meals and too many snacks too quickly beforehand is just gonna ruin your appetite.

[oudysseos]

My favourite guess so far is the Cthulhu faction. That would be epic.

Actually, why not a Cthulhu story set in Ancient Greece? 'A Shadow over Ithika'? Odysseus versus Nyarlathotep?

[Ibrahim]

My favourite guess so far is the Cthulhu faction. That would be epic.

Actually, why not a Cthulhu story set in Ancient Greece? 'A Shadow over Ithika'? Odysseus versus Nyarlathotep?

I can see that:

faction leader: cthulhu
faction heir: ph'taang
head general: none, but Nyarlathotep and the necranomicon ex mortis stand out as important generals. one iirc can send you to the blagole, just like he gatekeeper can.
main unit: candarian demons?

political situation: facing a rebellion led by Ash Williams, of Dearborn, Michigan (worst state ever)

as you might have guessed, I'm pulling all that from the nether-regions of me lab-coat

I abuse clowns for teh lulz!

[Kikaz]

I can see that:

faction leader: cthulhu
faction heir: ph'taang
head general: none, but Nyarlathotep and the necranomicon ex mortis stand out as important generals. one iirc can send you to the blagole, just like he gatekeeper can.
main unit: candarian demons?

political situation: facing a rebellion led by Ash Williams, of Dearborn, Michigan (worst state ever)

as you might have guessed, I'm pulling all that from the nether-regions of me lab-coat

I abuse clowns for teh lulz!

...so you're from Michigan (Dearborn) eh?

[Ibrahim]

...so you're from Michigan (Dearborn) eh?

nope. Ash Williams is though, and my mom would kill me if I mentioned Michigan well in public. (she's from Ohio).

besides, the clown smiley should tell ye what I really think.

[Kikaz]

nope. Ash Williams is though, and my mom would kill me if I mentioned Michigan well in public. (she's from Ohio).

besides, the clown smiley should tell ye what I really think.

heh, well as a resident I can tell you that a lot of other residents hate Michigan (unemployment rates I suppose, and those who can't take awesome weather), and Dearborn isn't exactly a wonderful town haha... Oh and heh, most Michiganians also return the feeling when it comes to Ohions.

[jirisys]

My favourite guess so far is the Cthulhu faction. That would be epic.

Actually, why not a Cthulhu story set in Ancient Greece? 'A Shadow over Ithika'? Odysseus versus Nyarlathotep?

I wish i read that book, i would know a lot more of whatcha talking about

I can see that:

faction leader: cthulhu
faction heir: ph'taang
head general: none, but Nyarlathotep and the necranomicon ex mortis stand out as important generals. one iirc can send you to the blagole, just like he gatekeeper can.
main unit: candarian demons?

political situation: facing a rebellion led by Ash Williams, of Dearborn, Michigan (worst state ever)

as you might have guessed, I'm pulling all that from the nether-regions of me lab-coat

I abuse clowns for teh lulz!

This is not 4Chan, sure looks like it... but no

~Jirisys (Besides, it:s i'd for the lulz:bear:)

[Arkhis]

I wish i read that book, i would know a lot more of whatcha talking about

Cthulhu is a creation of Lovecraft, the famous author of many a horror story.

Wiki page about Cthulhu.

[Brennus]

I like how everyone has pretty much given up trying to guess this faction, I don't blame us.

[Apázlinemjó]

I like how everyone has pretty much given up trying to guess this faction, I don't blame us.

Because there won't be an orcish faction, we are sad.

[anubis88]

I like how everyone has pretty much given up trying to guess this faction, I don't blame us.

Yeah this topic has gone waaaaaaaaaaay off topic...

[Phalanx300]

Well its very possible some of us had it right but when we can't provide proof like pictures its useless....

[Brennus]

Is there any chance of a member of the EBII team giving us a clue (not so much as to reveal the identity of the faction but just enough to keep this thread alive). Something like "This faction is European" or "This faction had access to the Mediterranean" perhaps?

[jirisys]

Is there any chance of a member of the EBII team giving us a clue (not so much as to reveal the identity of the faction but just enough to keep this thread alive). Something like "This faction is European" or "This faction had access to the Mediterranean" perhaps?

This faction is from the Universe

~Jirisys (that oughta' close the pickings)

[Brennus]

This faction is from the Universe

~Jirisys (that oughta' close the pickings)

Ok, well that rules out Species 8472, Apázlinemjó.

[stratigos vasilios]

Whoever makes those Occultus sigs has done an excellent job... a frustratingly excellent job... I mean a really annoyling, frustrating, keeping-me-up-at-night job...