Global Climate Disruption.

**rvg** · 11-06-2015, 12:59

Originally Posted by Gilrandir

You are not required, but the social environment imposes that "expectation" upon you, so you have to conform to it whether you like it or not, otherwise you will be looked askance, mocked or even reprimanded by those who would spot the inadequacy (as they believe) of your behavior. So it becomes not a matter of your free choice, but a social norm which you can't ignore without incurring moral penalties...

That's just not true. Black people generally don't tip, and that does not result in any mocking.

**AE Bravo** · 11-06-2015, 23:49

Nope, he's right I'm pretty sure if you don't tip you're the stingy a-hole.

Customary courtesy.

**Beskar** · 11-07-2015, 00:04

I heard of people getting hassled by waiting staff for not 'tipping enough'.

Infact, reminds me of a Holiday in Israel and we didn't tip the tour-guide enough, and he was complaining about it... he had £300-400 or so in tips, though apparently Americans tip like £800+, so the tour-guides don't get paid by the company. So he was like "Was I bad? Did I do something wrong?", and everyone was a little dumbfounded because they thought he was paid and getting £300-400 in tips is very generous.

After that, people were kind of proded hard to 'tip more', and the tour-company decided to do brand new 'inflated' rates for English and Europeans to cover the difference.

**Husar** · 11-07-2015, 00:32

So if you have to pay the guide's wage directly, what are you paying the tour company for?

And if you don't tip when you're expected to tip for the service the waiter provides, can you also not pay the restaurant owner for his service if you don't like him enough?

**CrossLOPER** · 11-07-2015, 01:29

Originally Posted by Husar

what are you paying the tour company for?

Freedom.

**Beskar** · 11-07-2015, 04:46

Originally Posted by Husar

So if you have to pay the guide's wage directly, what are you paying the tour company for?

Well, they provide the various accommodation in hotels, coach, driver, border passes, their expertise, etc. But yes, we thought it was included but turns out it wasn't.