Tunisian president flees. A new hope for free elections?

[Furunculus]

Reminds me of Bloody Sunday.

lol.

[HoreTore]

lol.

Ten bucks says you're thinking of the wrong Bloody Sunday.

[Fragony]

Ten bucks says you're thinking of the wrong Bloody Sunday.

Probably because you mean black september

[Furunculus]

Ten bucks says you're thinking of the wrong Bloody Sunday.

quite possible, i'm aware of only the one. edumacate me please.............. :)

[HoreTore]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloody_Sunday_%281905%29

This be the one I'm thinking about.

A priest leading a demonstration against oppression, who were gunned down while praying.

[gaelic cowboy]

Far as I know there has been about three or four Bloody Sundays two in Ireland one in Russia and prob few others.

When you think about it there have been lots of bloody sundays

[Furunculus]

ah, cheers Horetore.

[Furunculus]

Far as I know there has been about three or four Bloody Sundays two in Ireland one in Russia and prob few others.

When you think about it there have been lots of bloody sundays

it is statistically likely.

[Strike For The South]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloody_Sunday_%281905%29

This be the one I'm thinking about.

A priest leading a demonstration against oppression, who were gunned down while praying.

I thought about prom night

BA DUM TISH

[Hax]

And with that amusing note from Strike, let's take a look at the situation in Egypt.

I mean, what the hell is happening? It's awesome, it's incredible, it's revolutionary! Mubarak has supposedly sacked the government earlier today and will appoint a new government tomorrow, but I don't think the people are going to take it. Now, let's listen to some Bob Dylan

The times, they are a-changin'

[Furunculus]

you are right Hax, it is amazing, and i hope mubaraks reign of autocracy is over.

that said, i sincerely hope that whatever replaces him is less cretinous than the muslim brotherhood who blamed the church bombing on israel; "because only the zionists have an interest in a divided egypt"!

[Hax]

But y'know the thing is, those bombings that are commited by extremist groups? Even if the Muslim brotherhood would gain power in parliament, they'd still have to talk. They'd have to engage in open dialogue with the secularists about how the country is going to be run. Of course, both sides will have to make secessions, but I think that the bombings will sharply decrease to a point, just because of the fact that there'll finally be democracy.

[Fragony]

Crumble. Added benefit of the brotherhood having to change really fast. Aren't them Arabs a bunch of hotheads gotta love them, way to go.

[insert random V for Vendetta quote]

Beautifull ain't it haxie

[Hax]

Beautifull ain't it haxie

Come over for drinks at my house, take Tellos and Moros with you too, we can have a good laugh together. Man, I felt the Arab blood boiling in my veins earlier today.

[Fragony]

It's all pretty damn amazing, never be rude to an arab geez

[ICantSpellDawg]

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[Hax]

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I'm starting to miss tribesman.

[Greyblades]

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I'm starting to wish I was around when he was here so I could miss tribesman.

[Fragony]

...

I'm starting to miss tribesman.

What he means is that he likes what's happening, new to teh internetz?

[Hax]

Islamist leader Rachid al-Ghannouchi just came back from 20+ years of exile, apparently. Interestingly, he didn't call for an Islamic state or anything of the like, he called for democratic elections. Here are some of his political point of views:

Rashid Al-Ghannushi represents a progressive strain in Islamic reformism, and continuously stresses the need for innovation against social injustice. He underscores the importance of local culture, and an Islamist movement based in the needs of Tunisians and not in "the obscure theories of Sayyid Qutb". He has sided with worker's rights, unionism, and women's education and rights, though those rights are based in Islam and not Western liberal feminism.[2]
Ghannoushi maintains that, women being one half of the Islamic community, women should have full access to education[4] He cites oppressive cultural codes in Islamic cultures as the major force behind women's choices to turn to Western culture, and believes that Islamic reform, as part of a larger reformist movement, is needed to address women's education, participation, and respect.[5]

In discussions of plurality within Islamic societies, Rashid Al-Ghannushi believes that non-Muslim citizens should not be barred from positions in government, aside from the presidency and other leadership roles, setting himself against more conservative viewpoints.[6]


On January 22, 2011, in an interview with Al Jazeera TV, Rashid Al-Ghannushi confirmed that he is against an Islamic Caliphate, and supports democracy instead, unlike Hizb ut-Tahrir. (in the interview Al-Ghannushi accused Hizb ut-Tahrir of exporting a distorted understanding of Islam) [7]

Interesting.

[Fragony]

A return to humanism, it's really happening. 21th century couldn't have started any better. There suddenly is a lot to be optimistic about. It isn't particularly flattering how he sees western values, nobody is forcing anybody into anything, but I'm not that easily offended.

salaam mia muca's