john the things you say just make me lol and lol. Come talk to me when you have read all of it and we will have a nice little chuckle!
I just finished book 3, and I really dont get all the hate for Catelyn. I think shes a great character.
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tbh. no. no i would not. Not if i was essentially the most powerful woman in the entire north of the kingdom of westeros the daughter of the river lord and the sister of the widow of the eyrie. And then to add on top of that my husband is the hand of the king with my two daughters in the capital with only a hundred or so loyal retainers. No i would think about the rest of my family and consider the fates of all the people under my control. barring that i would at least take care of tyrion properly rather than botch it completely.
A war was brewing anyway. You're being too harsh on Cat. Her actions weren't always laden with forethought, but the negatives are ultimately pretty trivial and she made a lot of good calls in assisting Edmure and Robb (though they didn't always listen to her).
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If I wasn't too lazy to get CK working I'd play that. :3 Instead I'll wait for CK2...
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I have only read the first book but the TV series seems to take Catelyn in a somewhat different direction in the end. Maybe I missed something in the book or maybe it will come in season 2 of the series, but was Catelyn's "We will kill them all" line to Robb added? In the end of book 1, she tries to push for peace. In the book, she also recognises her error in trying to seize Tyrion and precipitating war. I don't recall her almost braining Jaime with a rock either.
I think Catelyn's a rather interesting character regardless - a good person who makes some bad choices and is constrained by her honour, rather like her husband. It was quite an unusual plot mechanic that she would cause things to go to hell by her action in seizing Tyrion. Typically, in stories, it's the evil people who precipitate the chaos. (Although no doubt things would have turned bad sooner or later regardless, with Ned's investigation into House Baratheon and the poisonous nature of the Lannisters.)
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i think that the author has to either A) kill off loads of POV characters or B) not introduce any new ones, because the style of his writing. A) he needs to do to keep the scale of the story down. B) would have the same effect but it would also mean nothing bad could happen to the POV characters or your story would end. There is also option C) and that is increase the size of the story, like Feist has done. he uses a similar POV style but for him its not so bad if in a book some of the characters dont get a prominent role because the size of the story is so big.
We do not sow.
There is only one thing I want from future series' of Game of Thrones.
"A bear there was, a bear, a bear!
All black and brown and covered with hair!
The bear, the bear!"
The entire song set to music.
Hopefully better than this.
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Just finished book four. I can see where the differing opinions come from, I struggled to get into it for the first few hundred pages, after that it flowed as well as the first few books. I can imagine now how people who read it six years ago have been frustrated waiting for the next book, only five years overdue...
I'm off now to start again, if I time it right I should be finished in time for book five.
There really needs to be a M&B:W mod for ASOIAF.
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I think you mean the other way around. :P Though I'd still read it. Would the Starks be Rhodock or Swadian?
Haha sorry, I meant the other way around. Silly me.
The Rhodocks remind me of the Starks, the Swadians remind me of Lannister.
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goodness gracious this conversation again.....................
Wonder if I could grow a beard in 3 days? Auditions for extras for series two are being held on Monday, quite literally around the corner from me.
me = jealous.
The GoT soundtrack is out.
I got it and its awesome.
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My copy of A Dance with Dragons has been posted, hopefully get it for Monday.
Saw this over at TWC, meet Brienne.
I'd Smash.
She needs much bluer eyes though. She is the daughter of the star of evenfall and catelyn stark remarks that she had stunning blue eyes in a clash of kings. Also martin states that he believes Brienne is well over 6 ft tall but not close to seven and significantly heavier than renly or jaime
...While that isnt exactly model materiel, I cant realy say briene's actor is anywhere near as ugly as I expect the character to be.
I expect the character to be uglier than the actor.
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lets all be honest that woman is attractive. she is legitimately attractive though her forehead is a little big. but we all know that they will make her up and if she is not huge as brienne is supposed to be they will cast her at angles and tr yto keep her in armor with a closed face helm whenever possible.
Surely I can't have been the only one thinking someone more like actress Dot Jones; http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0427963/
6'3", 15 time world arm wrestling champion.
That woman looks like a waif, and only 'ugly' in Hollywood.
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Ja Mata, Tosa.
The poorest man may in his cottage bid defiance to all the forces of the Crown. It may be frail; its roof may shake; the wind may blow through it; the storm may enter; the rain may enter; but the King of England cannot enter – all his force dares not cross the threshold of the ruined tenement! - William Pitt the Elder
She's actually 6' 3 as well, supposedly GRRM himself said they auditioned "20 actresses and one Brienne" (the picture above being her).
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