Royal Treasury

[Ibn-Khaldun]

This thread exists primarily as an easy reference for the Royal Treasurer and where he should post seasonal incomes of all Players. If you have selected Sea Trade option for your income, please post at the start of each year your preferred trade route. You cannot have both estates and sea trade!

Estates:

1. Alexandros Thraikikos
2. Euergetes Ptolemaios
3. Ankwennefer Philometor
4. Meleagros Ptolemaios
5. Satyrion Limyraios
6. Leontiskos Thraikikos
7. Kydrogenes Epiphanes
8. Zoarchos Helios
9. Timon Arrhidaeos

Here is the list of action you can do with Personal funds:

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Basic Income Sources

Estate
Cost: 2000 mnai + Recruitment cost of supervisors
(Supervisors - Either skirmishers, archers or slingers who are needed to keep the fort disappearing)
Income: settlement taxes + farming income
Misc:
1) Can only be built in Homeland territories with Type 1 government.
2) Cannot be built by the Clients.
3) If the fort is left ungarrisoned and it disappears then person who lost it must pay another 2000 mnai to rebuild it.
4) If there are Brigands in the same province as Estate then it will get 50% income penalty.
5) If Enemy army is in the same province as Estate then it will get 75% income penalty.
6) Supervisors are considered Private units.
7) Only one unit is considered Supervisors.
8) Only 1 Estate per person is allowed.

Sea trade
Cost: 500 mnai per cargo ship
Income: Export + Import of a trade route.
Misc:
1) Ship owners must at the start of each year declare in a Royal Treasury thread that they have signed a trade contract.
2) Trade Contract - Player must choose Home and Target ports.
3) Players can have only one trade route at the time.
4) Each Player can have maximum of 15 ships.
5) Each ship have upkeep cost of 50 mnai.
6) If there are Pirates close to the Home/Target port then there will be 50% Income penalty.
7) If Pirates or Enemy fleet blockades Home/Target port then there will be 100% Income penalty and the possibility to loose ships.
8) If players have not signed a trade contract then they don't pay the upkeep of the cargo ships until they sign one again.

Loot from Battles
Cost: n/a
Income: The number of enemies / 2
Misc:
1) Battles against Brigands do not give Loot.
2) If enemy settlement is conquered then the general who captured it will receive the Loot(how much is gained depends whether Occupy, Expel or Enslave was chosen).


Other Income Sources

Corruption
Income: Corruption penalty from the Settlements Details
Misc:
1) Only for Officials.
2) Must be present in the city.
3) Will be automatically transferred to the Hidden Account.
4) Player who wants to use this option should PM Ibn-Khaldun.

Expenditures

Anonymous Messengers
Cost: 50 per message
Misc:
1) If Player want's to send an anonymous message to another Player then he should PM his text to Ibn-Khaldun who will then forward it to the right person.
2) The Person who received the message can reply without paying anything.

Fiddle with the votes
Cost: 500 mnai
Misc:
1) During voting period Players can PM Ibn-Khaldun and ask to increase/lower Influence of another Player. Influence can not go lower than 1!
2) Players can use this power also on themselves.
3) This can be used only once during voting period!

Assassination attempt
Cost: 1000 mnai
Misc:
1) No, you can't kill another avatar this way!
2) The success depends on the traits and ancillaries of the target.
3) If succsessful, then the target cannot move during the next turn.
4) Teleporting option cannot be used if the attempt was succssessful.

Other

Hidden Accounts
Misc:
1) Can be used once a year(4 turns).
2) Player should PM Ibn-Khaldun and say how much mnai he wants to hide.
3) Hidden mnai can be used the same way as unhidden one.
4) Players can't hide more than 1000 mnai per year.

Slave Trader
Misc:
1) Every Player can buy whatever retinue member/item that other Players have transferred to the "Slave trader"(Rule 2.3).
2) Each of these retinue mebers/items cost 100 mnai.

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Here are the starting mnai for every player:

Skullheadhq have also 3000 mnai.

[Myth]

I wish to establish an estate in Alexandria (because it's the capital and the farming rate is 1.5) If the region matters but the exact spot does not, I'd put it where there is the least chance of an enemy army stepping on it. I think this would be a good spot:

[Ibn-Khaldun]

And who will be supervisors in your estate?
(OOC: Please choose a unit who will stay in the fort: Akontistai, Toxotai or Sphendonetai)

[LeoCordis]

I would also wish to create an estate in Alexandria, possibly near the coast to avoid any bandits and enemy armies.

A unit of toxotai will suffice for my supervisors.

[Visor]

I would request also, an estate in Alexandria. The position should be along the coast as well if possible, but anywhere will do. And I will choose Akontistai to supervise.

[Ashurnasirpal II]

I would request an estate in Alexandria, at the extremity of the road going down to Memphis, with a unit of Toxotai as the supervisors.

[GenosseGeneral]

I would also request an estate somewhere in the Delta, supervised by a unit of toxotai.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Unfortunatelly, that route is already taken. You must pick another one.

[Skullheadhq]

Is it possible that an estate of mine could be constructed just south of Hierosolymna? And I would like a unit of Toksotai as well.

[Myth]

It is my understanding that we can have either estates or trade ships but not both.

[The Celtic Viking]

Ibn-Khaldun, I think you should edit the OP because this is the third time that the same mistake is made.

Skullhead, please note that you have to choose between either sea trade or an estate. If you choose sea trade, you should also say how many cargo boats you want built, and if you choose an estate, you need to pick a different region. Hierosolyma has a type 3 government and an estate requires the region to have a type 1 gov. I believe there's still room in Memphis.

Edit: that's what happens when you leave the screen before finishing a post. Oh well, at least I gave some extra information.

[Skullheadhq]

Ibn-Khaldun, I think you should edit the OP because this is the third time that the same mistake is made.

Skullhead, please note that you have to choose between either sea trade or an estate. If you choose sea trade, you should also say how many cargo boats you want built, and if you choose an estate, you need to pick a different region. Hierosolyma has a type 3 government and an estate requires the region to have a type 1 gov. I believe there's still room in Memphis.

Edit: that's what happens when you leave the screen before finishing a post. Oh well, at least I gave some extra information.

Oh, Memphis then. No cargo.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Ibn-Khaldun, I think you should edit the OP because this is the third time that the same mistake is made.

Skullhead, please note that you have to choose between either sea trade or an estate. If you choose sea trade, you should also say how many cargo boats you want built, and if you choose an estate, you need to pick a different region. Hierosolyma has a type 3 government and an estate requires the region to have a type 1 gov. I believe there's still room in Memphis.

Edit: that's what happens when you leave the screen before finishing a post. Oh well, at least I gave some extra information.

Will do that now!

Kydrogenes' estate will be built in Memphis then.

Construction list:
Alexandros Thraikikos: Estate near Alexandreia + Toxotai = 2000 + 411 = 2411 mnai
Bothos Lapedou Kypriakou: Estate near Alexandreia + Toxotai = 2000 + 411 = 2411 mnai
Ankhwennefer Philometor: Estate near Alexandreia + Akontistai = 2000 + 411 = 2411 mnai
Meleagros Ptolemaios: Estate near Alexandreia + Toxotai = 2000 + 411 = 2411 mnai
Satyrion Limyraios: Estate near Alexandreia + Toxotai = 2000 + 411 = 2411 mnai
Philadelphos Ptolemaios: 10 cargo ships = 5000 mnai Trade route: Alexandreia-Salamis
Leontiskos Thraikikos: Estate near Memphis + Toxotai = 2000 + 411 = 2411 mnai
Zoarchos Helios: Estate near Memphis + Toxotai = 2000 + 411 = 2411 mnai
Isigonos Kleopatrites: 6 cargo ships = 3000 mnai Trade Route: Alexandreia-Diospolis Megale
Kydrogenes Epiphanes: Estate near Memphis + Toxotai = 2000 + 411 = 2411 mnai
Timon Arrhidaeos: Estate near Memphis + Toxotai = 2000 + 411 = 2411 mnai

[strategos roma]

In that case I'd take the route from Alexandria to side.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

At the moment there are just two available trade routes from Alexandreia.
They are:
Alexandreia - Diospolis Megale
Alexandreia - Tarsos

There are also the following trade routes available:
Memphis - Hierosolyma
Memphis - Salamis
Diospolis Megale - Alexandreia
Diospolis Megale - Hierosolyma
Hierosolyma - Memphis
Hierosolyma - Diospolis Megale
Hierosolyma - Tarsos
Salamis - Alexandreia
Salamis - Memphis
Salamis - Tarsos
Salamis - Rhodos

I wouldn't choose trade route with Tarsos since it is besieged by the enemy.

OOC: I suggest you to open the save and check the settlement details if you want to know what trade routes are available.

[strategos roma]

Hello, I'd like to build two more trade ships for my route. Thx!

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Is it possible that I pay only 130 for the fleet this turn, and then 234 next so I can afford 5 cargo ships this season? If so, please do that.

Can't do that. Law E1.2 prevents it.

OOC: Is there a limit to the amount of estates that can be owned and is there a limit to the amount of estates per province? It was stated earlier that no more estates could be built in the Nile delta. Did that apply to only this season, or is there a 5 estate per province limit? If so, how can I now expand my personal economics? I cannot build trade ships, for I already have an estate and I cannot build another estate, because I can have only 1 per province and the only other province with a type 1 government is full already.

OOC: Yes, there is 5 estate per province limit and you can build estates only in Type1 province. However, there are 2 of them(type1 provinces that is)

Hello, I'd like to build two more trade ships for my route. Thx!

Will do that.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

OOC: Yes, it's mentioned in the first post.

[johnhughthom]

OOC: Doh, how'd I miss that?

[The Celtic Viking]

Is it possible that I pay only 130 for the fleet this turn, and then 234 next so I can afford 5 cargo ships this season? If so, please do that.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

@TCV - True, did not think about it that way. So, in that case you can have your cargo ships.