Kingdoms Teutonic HS: Winter is Coming (completed, winner Myth)

[Zim]

HRE

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local...id=205&id=9812

[slysnake]

HRE

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local...id=205&id=9812

bump!

[Cecil XIX]

Denmark.

[Nightbringer]

poland!
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local...id=205&id=9820

[slysnake]

Norway! WiC-Norway-4.sav

[Rougeman]

Today is a joyous day, for we have defeated the danish in the seas, but even though this will slow them down, i fear that we cannot hold out for long if an assault is attempted, and that is why i call our ally, the Holy Roman Empire, to help us in defeating these barbarians, and bring peace back to the land!

Edit: WiC-Teutons-5.sav

[Myth]

Lithuania up.

[phonicsmonkey]

Novgorod

[Zim]

HRE

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local...id=205&id=9828

[Cecil XIX]

The Holy Roman Empire, taking no heed in the words of an unprovoked aggressor, dutifully agrees with the King of Northern Scandinavia and hereby considers itself at war with the Kingdom of Denmark.

The save.

[slysnake]

The Holy Roman Empire, taking no heed in the words of an unprovoked aggressor, dutifully agrees with the King of Northern Scandinavia and hereby considers itself at war with the Kingdom of Denmark.

The save.

The ambassador of the Polish Union sighs.

"If it is a war these treacherous Danes want, then it is a war they shall get! Come next season, the Grand Duke of Poland will have decided whether or not a legion of our Union shall be sent to aid our good allies the Holy Romans and the Norwegians in their joint war against the Danes. The Polish Duke also wishes to make it clear that negotiation is still a possibility on the table."

[Nightbringer]

This is preposterous, the King of Norway was making openly hostile statements towards the Holy Roman Empire, and when we rise up in defense of them they attack us? Well, we shall see how God sees their actions.

One would be wise to take note that never has Norway denied their words against the Holy Roman Empire.

[Nightbringer]

poland up!
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local...id=205&id=9831

[slysnake]

Norway WiC-Norway-5.sav

[Rougeman]

WiC-Teutons-6.sav

The outlying villages have been reclaimed, and more sailors die on the seas!

[Myth]

Lithuania up. I have discovered more interesting things about this mod. I'll add them to the guide once the game is over. I also saw a Novgorodian general by the surname of Nevsky with a ton of Boyar's Sons and Kazaks. He has turned rebel. Be careful, loyalty below 4 gives you a fair chance to lose the army, and captain lead armies rebel 1 out of 5 times by my experience.

[slysnake]

bump!

[phonicsmonkey]

I just can't keep up at the moment, sorry

[phonicsmonkey]

Novgorod

The Grand Duke of Lithuania lays slain in the town square at Riga in a desperate attempt to take the city. All the Teutonic footmen lay slain but the pagans didn't have enough heavy troops or javelin to cope with the Teutonic bodyguard units. Even wheeling the catapults into the city square and trying to blast them to atoms failed utterly when the flaming rocks flew just over the heads of the Teutons.

Now Lithuania, crushed under the Teutonic boot heel, has but a short time left on earth.

Curses to my enemies and to those who stood by and watched as tyranny was unleashed upon the innocent.

[Myth]

Nay pagan, 'tis the will of God almighty that you witness here. It is His word that we carry and His law shall be spread over thine heathen lands!

OOC: BTW I completely neglected that you have a catapult with that stack to the north. You killed the cav in the fort so It's natural that you had one but I somehow forgot about it. Since I saw your forces were lacking I thought you couldn't assault the city, I guess I got lucky. Did you manage to get one of the two FMs there?

[Zim]

Novgorod reluctantly fulfills its treaties with Lithuania by helping them against the Teutonic menace, thereby signing our death warrant.

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local...id=205&id=9852

[phonicsmonkey]

OOC: BTW I completely neglected that you have a catapult with that stack to the north. You killed the cav in the fort so It's natural that you had one but I somehow forgot about it. Since I saw your forces were lacking I thought you couldn't assault the city, I guess I got lucky. Did you manage to get one of the two FMs there?

Yeah I killed one of them with pointy sticks right before I routed.

[Thanatos Eclipse]

As the ghost of Lithuanian kings past (and from an alternate reality :P ), I urge all to rise up against the scourge that is the Teutons and wipe their evil breed from the face of the world!!!

[phonicsmonkey]

As the ghost of Lithuanian kings past (and from an alternate reality :P ), I urge all to rise up against the scourge that is the Teutons and wipe their evil breed from the face of the world!!!

Many thanks to you Thanatos for training Myth in the ways of pagan-killing before unleashing him on me.

Seriously though I should have asked you for some tips before I started this game - you did a much better job in FN than I have here!

[Thanatos Eclipse]

I was surprised I last as long as I did in that game :) Although most of my success against the Teutons was due to their attention being on poland when I attacked.

[Myth]

Aye. The Achilles heel of the Order are it's starting cities. Having a Poland that will not take the them while you move your troops east is how you ensure success.

I attacked NB as Poland in the last game but I had been playing hotseats for not more than a week when I joined, I had never played this mod and I didn't know NB and Thanatos as players. I just got off on hear-say how Tristan 1v5ed everyone and steamerolled Poland in a couple of turns.

That's all well and good and very much viable in AR with the Order Spearmen being the equivalent of T34 tanks, however good players with crappy AR nations can still put up a fight as was evident. If we make another AR Teutonics game and I get the order for a third time I'll play differently now for sure. Overall though a good player who knows the mod and the factions can really turn the TO into a killing machine. Hence using diplomacy is your best bet of taking them out. None of the factions can 1v1 them at the start.

BTW Zim what did you do to support Lithuania?

[Zim]

Took a settlement and siged another. So no mighty decisive interest (having a large army rebel didn't help on that end. ).

BTW Zim what did you do to support Lithuania?

[Myth]

You took that unwalled village and besieged the castle or the city on the coast?

[Zim]

Unwalled? But I have such lovely catapults. They were christened this turn.

You took that unwalled village and besieged the castle or the city on the coast?

[Myth]

Damn it. How did you get pass my priest scout. And I offered you peace and prosperity too. No one ever wants peace.