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    So, in one of those rare occasions I didn't have my bodyguard with me (my dog), I got robbed.

    I was walking home from the commuter train station, and I was on the phone. I payed little to no regards to what happened behind me.

    Anyway, I got a push in the back. Kind of well balanced as I am, I didn't fall, which might have been a mistake, as 4-5 guys then jumped me with punches and kicks.

    When they had asserted I wasn't a physical threat anymore, they went through my pockets and stole everything of value.

    They ended the whole ordeal with spitting me in the face.

    Do I have to say the gang was mixed with sub-sahara-africans and arabs? I think it was 4 or 5 of them.

    I don't like living in a multicultural society *shivers*

    This happened some days ago, but I was to shocked to write about it till now. It seriously upset me, as it felt more like a hate-crime than robbery. Oh, and my right middle finger will never be okay again, according to the doctors. They stomped on it, and it had also been twisted.

    Too bad, was looking forward to Diablo 3 expansion... But now my mouse-handling skills will forever be impaired.

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    Sorry to hear it. Violence is scary, if it doesn't frighten and shock you there is something wrong with you. Good luck with your recovery, don't worry about your finger, I can't remember how many times I have broken my hands, or anything really.

    Are you getting any aftercare by the way, wouldn't be too proud to look for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    Sorry to hear it. Violence is scary, if it doesn't frighten and shock you there is something wrong with you. Good luck with your recovery, don't worry about your finger, I can't remember how many times I have broken my hands, or anything really.
    Let's just say that the doctors have stated that a career as piano player is out of reach. To put it mildly.

    I guess it can still fill a symbolical value though. So there is that going for me...
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    Dislocated knuckle? Do go talk to someone by the way. A few years ago someone was shot in the head and two friends of mine had blood and brains all over them, they weren't all that upset at the time but they later got nightmares of eyes fading away. Being assaulted (and humiliated) leaves a mark.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    Dislocated knuckle? Do go talk to someone by the way. A few years ago someone was shot in the head and two friends of mine had blood and brains all over them, they weren't all that upset at the time but they later got nightmares of eyes fading away. Being assaulted (and humiliated) leaves a mark.
    That of course as well. But also quite some dead nerves. I guess the dead nerves is the problem.

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    Next time claim to be a job recruiter and it will scare them away
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kadagar_AV View Post
    That of course as well. But also quite some dead nerves. I guess the dead nerves is the problem.
    Don't worry, this is what is left of my hand and I can play a piano just fine.

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    Sorry to hear about it man. I can empathize with what you must have gone through. Good thing you are making a recovery though.
    About that middle finger....did they choose to assault it specifically because of something you did to spite them or was it just whim?


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    They stomped on the hand to inflict the greatest crippling damage without killing him. The middle finger was probably at the point of the heel impact.
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    I will say a prayer for your speedy/best possible recovery.
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    What a bunch of bastards.

    I agree with Frags, talk to someone, and get a second opinion about the hand - often a specialist will give you a different answer to a normal hospital doctor.

    And - hell - I know what you mean - come to my country by all means, but don't kick the **** out of me and knick all the bronze war memorials.
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    I agree with PVC (I hate when people ruin the bronze Hitler statues), hope you have a speedy recovery, especially for your hand/finger.

    Also one more reason not to concentrate on the phone too much, obviously some people hate that.

    But seriously, that sounds like a very brutal attack, would be good if they can be found and jailed due to being caught on video or so. I suppose charges were filed?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
    I agree with PVC (I hate when people ruin the bronze Hitler statues), hope you have a speedy recovery, especially for your hand/finger.

    Also one more reason not to concentrate on the phone too much, obviously some people hate that.

    But seriously, that sounds like a very brutal attack, would be good if they can be found and jailed due to being caught on video or so. I suppose charges were filed?
    It was a bronze Jesus, actually.

    Much local rage - because - you know - been there almost a hundred years.

    I won't say who was suspected of doing it, let's just say it's something else Kad and I have common ground on.
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    Sorry to hear about this Kad. I hope it doesn't trouble your thoughts too much and your finger recovers better than expected.
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    MRD, if only it was that easy.

    Rajpoot, I think Seamus Fermanagh's assessment is correct.

    Seamus Fermanagh, Cheers, and thank you.

    PVC, Thank you. As political as it was, I really don't dwell on that. Politics are about statistics, there I am but a number. This incident was very... personal? But then, I guess there is the same harm in all the numbers.

    Sucks.

    Husar, charges are filled, yes, That happens automatically when you come to hospital. I don't think it will be solved though... No cameras around, and only (mine) witness description is "a blur of people attacked".

    Gregoshi, Cheers, thank you.




    Bravado aside, I am quite shaken by this.


    EDIT: I have an appointment with a hand specialist on Wednesday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kadagar_AV View Post
    MRD, if only it was that easy.

    Rajpoot, I think Seamus Fermanagh's assessment is correct.

    Seamus Fermanagh, Cheers, and thank you.

    PVC, Thank you. As political as it was, I really don't dwell on that. Politics are about statistics, there I am but a number. This incident was very... personal? But then, I guess there is the same harm in all the numbers.

    Sucks.

    Husar, charges are filled, yes, That happens automatically when you come to hospital. I don't think it will be solved though... No cameras around, and only (mine) witness description is "a blur of people attacked".

    Gregoshi, Cheers, thank you.




    Bravado aside, I am quite shaken by this.


    EDIT: I have an appointment with a hand specialist on Wednesday.
    1. You are most welcome.

    2. Hope the hand specialist has a better sense of how to make things right.

    3. Whatever therapy is assigned, do NOT skimp on it -- it is amazing how much strength and r-o-m can be recovered with proper physical therapy, even where nerve damage has occurred.

    4. Of course you are shaken up. That is what we would label a normal emotional response -- and braggadocio about being a "successful" ski instructor aside, you are probably a pretty normal fellow.
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    Seamus Fermanagh, r-o-m-?

    rom in swedish = rome, so all I get from a google search is ruins and gladiators, with the odd centurion tossed in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    Dislocated knuckle? Do go talk to someone by the way. A few years ago someone was shot in the head and two friends of mine had blood and brains all over them, they weren't all that upset at the time but they later got nightmares of eyes fading away. Being assaulted (and humiliated) leaves a mark.
    I risk my physical status most days of the week. Even when I'm in Stockholm (Parkour).

    The mental side of this whole thing is the bigger cross to bear, you are spot on - on that observation. I think it's the humiliation that really will grow a scar.

    I usually am proud of my ability to fathom things in a logical manner, but this ordeal just blows my mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla View Post
    It was a bronze Jesus, actually.

    Much local rage - because - you know - been there almost a hundred years.

    I won't say who was suspected of doing it, let's just say it's something else Kad and I have common ground on.
    I was just thinking about whether this happened here and who we could possibly have a war memorial of and then I thought this might be funny, but yeah, I'm a German, shouldn't attempt jokes, point taken....again...

    You may remember that I got robbed by an immigrant as well, there's no need to be forgiving if they can't behave, but also no need to wish the ones out who do behave. Just saying, I'm glad my assailant got jailed but these guys obviously deserve it a lot more given the physical harm they caused, it's way more brutal and I can fully understand that Kadagar is shaken.

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    Seamus Fermanagh, r-o-m-?

    rom in swedish = rome, so all I get from a google search is ruins and gladiators, with the odd centurion tossed in.
    I think he means range of motion/movement, let's hope you regain enough of that to be comfortable at least.
    And please don't take my attempts at humor as insensitive, it's just my way of dealing with almost anything, I'm quitte a bit shocked by your description of what they did, it's mind-boggingly brutal.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
    I think he means range of motion/movement, let's hope you regain enough of that to be comfortable at least.
    And please don't take my attempts at humor as insensitive, it's just my way of dealing with almost anything, I'm quitte a bit shocked by your description of what they did, it's mind-boggingly brutal.
    You just have to face that you as German are comedy-impaired.

    Thanks for the "translation" though, and also for your best wishes.

    And yes, it was brutal alright.



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    PS: My finger was against a pebble as they stomped repeatedly, if you wonder why I worry.

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    Sorry, you communicate so well in English that I sometimes forget that it is your 2nd or 3rd language. Husar was quite correct: range of motion.

    You do understand, logically, that the only mistake you made was situational awareness -- a mistake we all make and which nobody gets perfectly right. Moreover, even that may have made little difference. 5-1 is bad odds/damn near insurmountable odds for anything outside of a chop-socky flick. In other words, you did nothing wrong and have nothing to be ashamed of in any way. At those odds, macho doesn't cut it...and you know this too. It may take your emotions a while to catch up with that truth, but let them catch up.
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    Yeah. Kinda surprised they picked you, I assume you are in pretty good shape because your profession. Hope you can recognise them if the odds are more in your favour.

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    Very sorry to hear about your assault.
    I hope the hand specialist can give you some good news, and I hope your body finds ways to restore your rom and functionality.
    All I could add I believe Seamus already said: no need or point in self recrimination, you were victimized by a random act of brutality; like being blind-sided in sports-by the very definition of the event there is next to nothing you could have done about it.
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    I am sorry to hear what happened to you Kad. I hope for once the cops would get lucky and catch the SOB´s.
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    Sorry about what happened to you Kad.


    It may well be that they will be found. You may even be the one to find them. It is unlikely that this was a one off attack on their part and they may just hang out in the same area looking for new victims.

    Just up you vigilance and do use your camera.

    It is not a cheery thought to run into them again, but be advised that it could be the case.


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    I would be delighted to see them again really. Same area, yeah probably. You will probably find them very fast if you are looking for them Kads. These inbred-challenged retards are this cowardly for a reason, they could never take you on mano de mano.

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    I sorry to hear about it Kadagar and I hope that you'll get a full recovery. And that those assulters gets either the police or revenge on them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    Yeah. Kinda surprised they picked you, I assume you are in pretty good shape because your profession. Hope you can recognise them if the odds are more in your favour.

    'violence doesn't solve anything' <- screw that
    What? You can't see how "macho" they were? It was outright mugging, not robbery. They probably picked him because he is well trained in this case.
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    It kinda does sound more like a hate-crime than a robbery. Mabe it's for the better for all of us that his hand is a bit broken; if he he would be a Swedish ski-instructor with a history-degree who can ALSO play a nocturne it would get a little difficult for the rest of.

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    Thank you all for caring.

    According to the police, this gang goes to different small stops for subway/commuter train, and wait until they see someone walking alone. Ironside is right in his assessment according to the police, I was probably picked because I was a fit, young, white man.

    They want to humiliate.

    The others they have attacked had been between 20-30, at 33 I was the oldest. But then I do look and dress somewhat younger.

    It's actually a relief hearing that they never attacked in the same area twice. Yes I want revenge, but I don't want to run in with them again, unless I have some friends along.

    According to the police, they had rushed in my case, others have been treated worse. I think another train came, so they had to abort. Previously they have also forced people to give up their codes for the cash machines, with me they didnt have time. Lucky, well.... as luck goes...

    I have noticed that I don't feel "safe" anymore, look over my shoulder and stuff. I think the mental damage will take longer to heal than the physical, if at all.

    I never been much pro-immigration, as you all know. This however have cemented my belief, and I notice that I am more hateful now. I don't like hating, but I cant fight my own emotions. GAH!!

    Oh well...

    Don't really know what I wanted out of this thread, but hearing that my reaction is normal helps. Again, thank you all!!

    EDIT: I wouldnt recognize anyone of them, unfortunately. I can walk right by them and have no idea... That irritates me. It really was all a blur, and I was a rubbish witness to the police. But the police have other witness reports from previous assaults, so yeah.... I hope they get caught.

    I couldnt even say how many they were
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