Rise of The Snake Cult [Concluded]

[El Barto]

Oh gosh I forgot day ends at 4am..

Whose 4 am?

So why aren't you?

I wanted to see if we could get Cass the non-voter to swing, but now you've dared me. Don't you dare dare me. unvote; vote:General Hankerchief

[Scarlett Aria]

Whose 4 am?

I'm GMT -6 for all who don't know so I won't be around for Day Starts much but I will try to be around for some day ends.

[El Barto]

OOC: Sometimes we get trouble with the timer function, but as I'll be at uni anyway I probably won't be available for the next 12-24 hours.

[Zain]

I'm GMT -6 for all who don't know so I won't be around for Day Starts much but I will try to be around for some day ends.

As am I, our host is Australian, correct?


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[Raith Kemmler]

I unvoted btw.

Okay, super confused until I scoured the thread. Slight formatting miscommunication.

When you unvote, you just say unvote and that cancels your last vote. Then you vote for whoever. If you vote: Example, and then Unvote; vote: Example, you're still voting for the same person, because the GM counts whatever the new vote:____. If that makes sense. I am kind of tired.

Severing is a slight town read and i'm wavering on Cass. General gives me a town gut vibe.

I like Cass' commentary. But the lack of a vote does bother. I'm giving a bit of town credit on loan until good voting appears.

[Scarlett Aria]

As am I, our host is Australian, correct?


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Yup. I'm CST.

[Scarlett Aria]

Why are people voting El btw? Besides his unreadable status?

[Raith Kemmler]

I won't be around for the turn's end either usually.

[Csargo]

Whose 4 am?

I wanted to see if we could get Cass the non-voter to swing, but now you've dared me. Don't you dare dare me. unvote; vote:General Hankerchief

So ends the mod of our fair Gameroom. Sentenced to death by that person who has been posting a lot lately aka El Barto aka Takhisis aka RP extraordinaire. He'll probably be missed, possibly. He was the best of us(unless he flips scum, which would make him the worst of us...)

[seireikhaan]

Unvote: GH

Vote: El Barto

Don't you touch my honeybun.

[Csargo]

So to understand some of you better. I'm going to ask 2 questions to kind of understand where you are coming from.

1. If you are scum how would you approach a closed setup?

2. If you are town how would you approach a closed setup?

I would mercilessly go after people who seemed suspicious for whatever small or inconspicuous reason until they're either lynched or killed.

Same as above.

Here comes khaan to ruin all the fun. He didn't even vote the right person either, geez. What's your game friend?

[Cass_]

Sorry, meant to get back earlier but hectic day.

Meta's kind of a trap like that. It's too useful until you don't have it. You must have someone to settle on. Anyone. The vaguest idea? Someone you'd be at peace dying here if everyone else looked decent.

Yes. At this point I was thinking gun to head [v]Al Sipsclar[/v] for the reasons previously mentioned, the way he answered my questions/didn't answer questions about his read on Winston later on.

I understand El Barto will be difficult to read, but he amuses me and I'm finding if you look carefully he is kind of making some points - and they're more observations than really driving lynches towards low hanging fruite so I'm happy to keep him around for now. I'm guessing activity/voting patterns in later days will be key to figuring him out.

Beskar answered my questions fully here

I played regularly on the Org around.. 3 years ago? First time after a long break.

First question is I have never had a game where someone claimed something in-game have in resulting on GM effects on their roles, which is an interesting idea but I have never experienced that in a game before so I am unfamiliar with such a set-up being used.

Second one you pointed out, I was unfamiliar with the term "closed set-up" so I was asking for clarity if it meant "not communicating outside of thread" or simply "unknown quantity of roles" which it was clarified as. So it seems if I used my initial assumption, I would have been answering incorrectly. The latter I usually put that down as 'typical Org mafia game' as we rarely played vanilla, especially in my games.

Eitherway, I am not clueless or intending to be as such.

The response is essentially null but at least he outright said he's not clueless or intending to be - ergo, he's not hiding behind that and even if he was he can't now because he'll be caught out. I'm not sure yet whether he's more likely scummy or low hanging fruit. My next step is to look at vote trains (I know, I'm cutting it close).

You say that it's not a good vote. I consider all votes on me to be bad votes, by definition. So, we agree that it's not a good vote.

I am unaware of what PAFO stands for, my fair lady.

Yes, it's Play and Find Out. I like a challenge so ok for now!

It's day one. No one should look scummy yet. 5 bucks says that a hapless townie is going to be lynched today, and mafia don't even have to participate in the lynch. They would pull all the tricks to avoid the responsibility. They may happily vote off the wagon or for each other. But sometimes they have to move their vote to avoid being lynched on D1. So, voting early and seeing who voted who and when is important. It is your duty as a townie.

My read on Winston is totally metagamish and not a very definitive one. I might be totally wrong. El Barto is always very entertaining, but hard to tell for me if he's scummy. The only tell I have for him is that the more active he is, the more chances are he's town.

I don't disagree with the top stuff. But I do find it strange that with all the talk of the importance of voting, your vote remains on me. Why? You put it there after I highlighted your voting anyone who FoS'd you and you haven't taken it off even though I think I've done a good job of explaining my thought process and my concerns. The vote on Raith could have been Towny pressure to reaction fish, but the vote on Edse and I just feel too opportunistic/OMGUS.

[Scarlett Aria]

I agree with Cass on El making points. I don't think he should be lynched as he will probably have a lot to say later on. He reminds me of my unreadableness on my home site.

[Cass_]

0 Khaan:
0 Nightbringer:
1 John: Winston Hughes
1 Scarlett: Autolycus
1 Winston: Johnhughthom
1 Cass: El Barto
1 Severing Viper: Zain
1 Cass: Al Sipsclar
2 Raith: Viper, Nightbringer
2 GeneralHankerchief: Beskar, Raith Kemmler*
2 Cuthillius: GoldenKnight, Jarema
2 El Barto: Cuthillius, seireikhaan*

3 Al Sipsclar: edse, Scarlett*, Cass*
3 Beskar: Landlubber, Csargo, GeneralHankerchief*


This is the vote count as I have it at the moment.

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I've had no sleep in over 24 hours and I don't normally do this sort of stuff, please don't trample me if it's wrong!

. The * are people who moved since the last vote count. Unless something changes, I think Besker is getting lynched here (?is this right?).

[Cass_]

I agree with Cass on El making points. I don't think he should be lynched as he will probably have a lot to say later on. He reminds me of my unreadableness on my home site.

Heh. He reminds me a little bit of a cross between Yates and Moonius tbh. Plus maybe some NotBob, but I don't think you know him.

Is anyone else around?

[Scarlett Aria]

Heh. He reminds me a little bit of a cross between Yates and Moonius tbh. Plus maybe some NotBob, but I don't think you know him.

Is anyone else around?

How do you see moonious?

[Scarlett Aria]

I need to sleep soon Cass.

[Cass_]

Vote: Al Sipsclar

OmgIfailbutIswearI'mnotasscummyasIlookhere. Adding it anyway in case someone wants to hammer over Beskar.

[Visor]

Day ends in an hour and five minutes (at least I hope thats what the timer is showing!)

Night will be 23 hours, and then we'll get back on schedule.

[Cass_]

Day ends in an hour and five minutes (at least I hope thats what the timer is showing!)

Night will be 23 hours, and then we'll get back on schedule.

I never thought I'd say this but... Hooray for Daylight Savings! I'm an hour earlier than I thought!

I'll be around if anyone wants to chat.

[seireikhaan]

The response is essentially null but at least he outright said he's not clueless or intending to be - ergo, he's not hiding behind that and even if he was he can't now because he'll be caught out. I'm not sure yet whether he's more likely scummy or low hanging fruit. My next step is to look at vote trains (I know, I'm cutting it close).

For what it's worth, I and I'm pretty sure at least a few others were pretty clueless on what exactly you meant by that. Been playing here since '07(though not as long as certain others), and have never seen people refer to setups as open or closed before. Just one of those little meta things that different places have. Believe me, if Beskar had tried pretending he was a noob, that would have been a *very* transparent tactic.

[Visor]

Tally:
EB (Cuth, Khaan
JHT (WH
RK (Sev, Night
Scarlet (Auto
Khaan (GH
Beskar (GH, Csargo
AL SIps (edse, Scarlet, Cass
GH (Beskar, Raith, EB
Cuth (GK, Jarema
WH (JHT
Cass ( Al Sips
Sev (Zain

[Visor]

Cuth 2
Beskar 3
El Barto 2
Severing 1
Al Sips 3
General 3
Cass 1
JHT 1
Raith 2
Scarlett 1
Winston 1


Should be the tally. Let me see who reached three first out of GH, Al Sips and Beskar.

[Visor]

Okay, Beskar reached three before GH and Al Sips, so he is lynched.

(GH reached 3 first, then Beskar, then GH went to 4, then back down to 3, so therefore Beskar was lynched over GH.

I'm going to change the tie rules as that was a goddamn pain.

From now on, there will be a tiebreaking period after the lynch where the next vote/unvote will decide.

Time for the writeup.

[Visor]

End of Day One

The court bickered and argued throughout the day on who could possibly have poisoned the Duke. Eventually Beskar was dragged in front of the Court and sentenced to death.

Beskar was lynched!

He was

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town!

Alive:
1. Jarema
2. GeneralHankerchief
3. Golden1Knight
4. Cuthillius
5. seireikhaan
6. Zain
7. landlubber
8. edse
9. Csargo
10. Raith Kemmler
12. El Barto
13. Al Sipsclar
14. Winston Hughes
15. Nightbringer
16. Autolycus
17. Cass
18. Johnhughthom
19. Severing viper
20. Scarlett Aria

Dead:
11. Beskar, lynched D1, town.

[Visor]

23 hours for night. Send in your orders.

[Zain]

I'm telling y'all, the HOST has hinted us... Watch Viper rip my throat out tonight for this...

[Visor]

End of Night One

The Court awoke to find the battered and bloodied corpse of Csargo on the palace floor. Clearly evil was still afoot.

Csargo was killed!

He was

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town!

Alive: 18/20
1. Jarema
2. GeneralHankerchief
3. Golden1Knight
4. Cuthillius
5. seireikhaan
6. Zain
7. landlubber
8. edse
10. Raith Kemmler
12. El Barto
13. Al Sipsclar
14. Winston Hughes
15. Nightbringer
16. Autolycus
17. Cass
18. Johnhughthom
19. Severing viper
20. Scarlett Aria

Dead: 2/20
11. Beskar, lynched D1, town.
9. Csargo, killed N1, town.

[Winston Hughes]

vote: edse

Initial vote on El Borto looks like an opportunity grabbed.
Switch to Al Sips isn't bad in itself, but the reasoning seems forced.
Overall, activity is low and content a bit contrived.

[Winston Hughes]

When does night fall?