Rereading El Barto, I'm content with my vote.
Defence by meta doesn't wash.
Need to see some actual townie intent, beyond the self preservation.
Rereading El Barto, I'm content with my vote.
Defence by meta doesn't wash.
Need to see some actual townie intent, beyond the self preservation.
He came out guns blazing and then he just sort of ran out of ammo or something. Since that first flurry of posts I don't remember anything but arguing with Monty.
Nothing in particular that I don't like, but nothing that strikes me as towny in a way to counteract my first impression, either. You're giving him points for reconsidering his comments in light of Zack's correction, but what is a scum Jabbz supposed to do there? Argue? Zack was clearly correct on the merits, it wasn't even debatable. And it wasn't like it was a discussion over reads or anything either, it was just a misinterpretation of early comments. I'd think it would not be difficult for a scum Jabbz to give in gracefully.Jabbz is much in the same boat. I liked the confident way he handled the pressure from Zack's attacks on his case, and that he a) went back and reconsidered what Zack countered with and b) returned with a reason I could follow for the confusion he said he had.
On the flip side, I've questioned him a fair bit and I still feel uneasy about his early votes combined with the 'I'm lost' rhetoric/am waiting for replies/more content to give me a chance at a better lean.
What specifically don't you like about his replies?
Winston -- townWhat do you make of each of those players themselves?
You -- town, with reservations
I don't remember who the third person was.
renata how do you feel on me
ignore 'scary'
town/wolf?
i stated my positionHe came out guns blazing and then he just sort of ran out of ammo or something. Since that first flurry of posts I don't remember anything but arguing with Monty.
give me rep.
tell me, town/wolf
Quick read on atheotes, Visor. And El Barto I guess, anyone else who's shown up more recently.
its the way you phrased it. I read it as "being able to read AND being your town read", which was not possible when you voted. Its something that pinged me. I was hoping to get a second opinion. Nothing more for you to explain on this. I will just keep you in my suspect list for now
Dp101 with his standard townie look.
I'm seeing some hints of greater confidence here, which is something I'd expect from Dp as scum. Could just as easily be progress in his town game, though.
El Barto wolfy
Atheotes null at the moment
Maybe light town but it's very light
Danke.
Morning all.
Slight scumleans for everyone who was going on about mechanics, etc. a few pages back. That's Sooh, Cass_, maybe one or two others, right?
Slight townleans for the people who wanted us to get back on track.
DP101 looks good, though I do agree with Winston on the "confidence" bit.
Visor looks good.
No read on Jabbz, not sure where all the positive leans are coming from.
Winston seems relaxed and engaged, I'll give him a townlean for now.
The case(s) I made for Zack being Chancellor after my initial long essay post are genuine and I have no plans on changing my Chancellor vote.
"I'm going to die anyway, and therefore have nothing more to do except deliberately annoy Lemur." -Orb, in the chat
"Lemur. Even if he's innocent, he's a pain; so kill him." -Ignoramus
"I'm going to need to collect all of the rants about the guilty lemur, and put them in a pretty box with ponies and pink bows. Then I'm going to sprinkle sparkly magic dust on the box, and kiss it." -Lemur
Mafia: Promoting peace and love since June 2006
"I'm going to die anyway, and therefore have nothing more to do except deliberately annoy Lemur." -Orb, in the chat
"Lemur. Even if he's innocent, he's a pain; so kill him." -Ignoramus
"I'm going to need to collect all of the rants about the guilty lemur, and put them in a pretty box with ponies and pink bows. Then I'm going to sprinkle sparkly magic dust on the box, and kiss it." -Lemur
Mafia: Promoting peace and love since June 2006
Checking Visor ISO, after Monty starts at him, he mentions/comments on posts from you, Jabbz, Dp101 and GH, votes Sooh and gives lists of his leans/thoughts in a couple of places. I don't have Sooh in my personal vote-for-lynch range but I can follow everything else.
Wrt Jabbz, I don't disagree with anything you say there, at all, and will be factoring that in down the line. I don't really think it's worth going around in circles on, first read-through it and tone seemed Towny, other things were null to possi-scum and he could still go either way /shrug.
Also, lol at the 'with reservations' since it gets under my skin in the way you mentioned previously.
Holy jeez sorry guys it's been a hectic couple days
Just woke up gonna do morning things then post stuff that actually matters
HI I'm monstrman for those who haven't met me
"How dare you dodge the barrel!"
My play is silly sometimes. Reservations are understandable.
So much for me ever getting sleep this game
This is harrowing, since I assume it means he's also regularly an easy mislynch?
[v]El Barto[/v] until he steps it up/someone else is more clearly scum.
The 'one or two others' that would be in scumleans for discussing mechanics at that point would include Dp101, who you separate from that list and say looks good.
I've done more than just talk mechanics, don't like that that gets ignored.
Do you have a current read of Zack's play, or are you simply going with the intro post?
Aaaaaaaaaaaand it's way past time for sleep.
Vote: El Barto
For the same reasons I voted him, and Name, before.
Will catch up and try to be coherent tomorrow after sleep.
Also.
Monstrrrrrrrrrrbroooooo! <3
I'm not sure I like this post. The first couple of reads are awfully general (who even are those who should be given town credit for wanting to stop mechanical discussion, GH? Why do you think that's such a difficult thing to do as scum, to look townie?) and at odds with a post that otherwise shows recognition of specific things that happened (like Winston's post about dp). I know this isn't exactly a drop-dead scum tell after misreading Khaan last game in part over something similar, but rightly or wrongly, I expect a little more sharpness and genuine feeling from you.
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