Swords and Sorcery Mafia Without the Swords [Concluded]

[Sooh]

Re Snerk: There's something about his claim that he was checking me N1 that doesn't add up. I don't think he was trying to check me at all. I think his action was entirely different from that.

[Snerk]

Vote: Snerk

I understand that Sooh is the lynch today and I don't disagree with it. But I really don't like this post, it's getting way too tinfoily too early on and it could be Snerk laying early groundwork for otherwise-difficult mislynches further down the line instead of him.

Well this is an interesting reaction. It's almost like I hit a nerve or something.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with riffing on tinfoilage at this stage of the game as long as votes and abilities are put to more down to earth usage.

If I'm scum then the game is lost, trying to set up mislynches of everybody with townsmear would be futile.

[Snerk]

Re Snerk: There's something about his claim that he was checking me N1 that doesn't add up. I don't think he was trying to check me at all. I think his action was entirely different from that.

Oh I was checking you out alright! Well, trying to at least.

[Zack]

Re Snerk: There's something about his claim that he was checking me N1 that doesn't add up. I don't think he was trying to check me at all. I think his action was entirely different from that.

Have you clarified your n1 and n2 actions?

[Sooh]

Not N2.

N1, protect Renata
N2, vig Atheotes.

[Renata]

If you're still here, can you please offer your full argument on Snerk?

[Renata]

This is probably stupid but I'm tempted to believe Sooh right now. I hadn't thought about it this way before, but her killing atheotes is borderline suicidal if she's last scum standing -- she doesn't want to resolve that either/or situation.

Unless she really is suicidal due to hopelessness of course and this just ends it faster.

The one thing that makes me want to lynch Sooh almost regardless of her alignment is that if shes town the Sooh/Visor wagons all of a sudden become meaningful. Lynching someone else first leaves that day unresolved.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Nobody's claimed redirect on N2, right?

[Sooh]

This is probably stupid but I'm tempted to believe Sooh right now. I hadn't thought about it this way before, but her killing atheotes is borderline suicidal if she's last scum standing -- she doesn't want to resolve that either/or situation.

Unless she really is suicidal due to hopelessness of course and this just ends it faster.

The one thing that makes me want to lynch Sooh almost regardless of her alignment is that if shes town the Sooh/Visor wagons all of a sudden become meaningful. Lynching someone else first leaves that day unresolved.

So you need to lynch me to find out that I'm town, despite my saying I was the one to kill Atheotes because I thought he was lying about watching Renata and not seeing me.

[Sooh]

If you're still here, can you please offer your full argument on Snerk?

Fine. I had a BPV from the start of the game. After N1 I was told it was shattered. Then Snerk comes and tells everyone his action on me failed.

[Renata]

Then why on earth don't you claim that and out Snerk as a liar right then? He said he scanned you.

[Renata]

I gues it's possible that Lewwyn's n1 redirection from choxorn to you meant that you ate a bullet that was meant for choxorn. But then that doesn't actually implicate Snerk. And it still doesn't explain why atheotes didn't see you. Unless choxorn also collected a roleblock or something?

To be fair, this actually makes some sense. But it doesn't implicate Snerk. Maybe Csargo -- a green peek is easy enough to fake.

[Renata]

vote: Csargo

Shrug.

[Montmorency]

The claim of starting with a passive BP that is shattered N1 is too much. Stay the course.

[Sooh]

The claim of starting with a passive BP that is shattered N1 is too much. Stay the course.

It's the absolute truth.

I can't make you believe me, but I'm not lying.

[Montmorency]

Do you have any flavor to back that up?

[Csargo]

vote: Csargo

Shrug.

[Jabbz]

Up to date tally. Accurate to post 1214.
Sooh – 6 (Montmorency, Lewwyn, Csargo, Winston Hughes, Choxorn, Arakhor)
Csargo -- 2 (Kcaz, Snerk, Renata)
Snerk -- 1 (Sooh, GHC)

Voting History

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Arakhor Sooh 1170
Choxorn Sooh 1158
Csargo Sooh 1122
GeneralHankerchief Sooh 1047, Snerk 1199
Kcaz Csargo 1032
Lewwyn Sooh 1104
Montmorency Sooh 1102
Renata Sooh 1155, Csargo 1213
Snerk GHC 1130, Csargo 1143
Sooh Snerk 1164
Winston Hughes Sooh 1154

Day three ends in [/QUOTE]

[Sooh]

Do you have any flavor to back that up?

Flavor? You mean in the writeups that Jabbz has been writing? I can't say I read the first one very thoroughly. Also I thought he said they were all for fun and not to be read into?

[Sooh]

I knew there was no chance in trying to talk anyone down.

[Sooh]

[*]All details about how a player died will be strictly flavor, with the exception of the disclosure of their faction and role.

This is all it says. And no, there's no trace of a botched attack in the N1 writeup.

[Montmorency]

Flavor? You mean in the writeups that Jabbz has been writing? I can't say I read the first one very thoroughly. Also I thought he said they were all for fun and not to be read into?

To start with a passive BP, when it is available to the rest only as as an active purchased power, you must be one extra-special role. Perhaps you are our Grandmaster? No?

You have given no reasoning to explain why Snerk is the scum, other than that you "have your reasons". You have not offered any explanation of why you have been taking your claimed actions or acting the way you have in-thread.

[Renata]

I guess it's because the implication is Snerk shot at her instead of doing whatever else he said he was trying to do. But I don't really see why a town Sooh wouldn't out that immediately and put Snerk under suspicion for it instead of waiting this long.

[Montmorency]

I guess it's because the implication is Snerk shot at her instead of doing whatever else he said he was trying to do. But I don't really see why a town Sooh wouldn't out that immediately and put Snerk under suspicion for it instead of waiting this long.

No account of the events around her, such as how Snerk could correctly deduce that Lewwyn would be hiding N2 (or create an account that would match with this claim).

Townies should not try to pull massive CFDs away from themselves in obscurantism and the absence of stakes.

[Sooh]

No, of course not. Why would Town-Sooh try to make Snerk reveal the rest of his connections before outing him? Why would Town-Sooh wait until N3 to attempt to vig him? Makes no sense, right?

[Montmorency]

What?

[Sooh]

I need more than that to respond. What are you "what"-ing about?

[Montmorency]

I need more than that to respond. What are you "what"-ing about?

Your entire last comment was nonsense with no clear relevance to the situation.

[Zack]

No, of course not. Why would Town-Sooh try to make Snerk reveal the rest of his connections before outing him? Why would Town-Sooh wait until N3 to attempt to vig him? Makes no sense, right?

Not really?

[Zack]

I mean, if I got a red peek on Winston n1 I wouldn't have held onto that for a few days.