Swords and Sorcery Mafia Without the Swords [Concluded]

[Winston Hughes]

I mean, if I got a red peek on Winston n1 I wouldn't have held onto that for a few days.

Just long enough to allow me to make a fool out of myself, amIright?

[Zack]

Probably hound you about all of your reads before dropping the bomb.

[Jabbz]

Deadline. No posting

[Jabbz]

As sunset approaches it becomes clear that the will of the council has decided that it is Sooh that must face the Trials of Purification. The moment that happens Sooh drops her act of viewing the rest of you as equals, or even worthy of her time. She stares at each of you.

"You are all unworthy of the titles you hold. You snivel and crawl beneath the Archmage, who himself begs for approval for those worthless cowards that cling to leadership. YOU NEED ME. I'm stronger than all of you. I always have been. Even the Archmage himself feared my power. I will submit to your Trials, but when I return I will leave, and if you try to stop me this council will be destroyed."

Somehow you believe her.

Sooh steps up to the podium, haughty disdain clear on her face. For the first time since this horror began, the ritual succeeds without flaw. As it comes to a close Sooh is encased in crystal, where she will reside until the trials pass. Only a fool would believe she would not return, but that would be a problem for another day.

Sooh has been Lynched. She was a

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Betrayer. (Serial Killer)

Night three Begins. You may resume Posting.

End of Day Vote Count
Sooh – 6 (Montmorency, Lewwyn, Csargo, Winston Hughes, Choxorn, Arakhor)
Csargo -- 3 (Kcaz, Snerk, Renata)
Snerk -- 2 (Sooh, GHC)

Voting History

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Arakhor Sooh 1170
Choxorn Sooh 1158
Csargo Sooh 1122
GeneralHankerchief Sooh 1047, Snerk 1199
Kcaz Csargo 1032
Lewwyn Sooh 1104
Montmorency Sooh 1102
Renata Sooh 1155, Csargo 1213
Snerk GHC 1130, Csargo 1143
Sooh Snerk 1164
Winston Hughes Sooh 1154

Night three ends in

[Renata]

Whelp. That wasn't really on my list of possibilities but I guess I'll take it.

[Montmorency]

Right then. @Lewwyn, sound off: jail Csargo?

Renata and GH, Snerk is up to you. Snerk, sort it with them.

Arakhor could use a scan if anyone has one.

[GeneralHankerchief]

lol

[Choxorn]

I don't doubt that Sooh did in fact kill atheotes, no reason to claim that if she didn't. She probably also killed BSmith, because what else could she have been doing N1? She certainly wasn't actually protecting Renata.

It certainly makes more sense that she'd kill BSmith than that the mafia would, even if it doesn't really make sense for either of them.

[Jabbz]

Notice

I will try to get updated spellbooks out before end of night. I underestimated my workload on this setup, so I'm constantly behind :P Feel free to submit your actions, if you were being careful you probably have your setup correct. I also get pinged to my phone every time I get pm'd so I can check them on an individual basis the moment you submit, and will try to respond immediately if something is not matching up between us.

[Montmorency]

She probably expected the Mafia to take on higher-profile targets. Mafia seems to have been taking on no targets. :P

TBH I had a genuine fright minutes before EOD that Sooh was so noncommittal because she had a lynchproof.

[Renata]

So my guess is: Mafia really did shoot at Choxorn night one (redirected to Sooh by Lewwyn), due to Choxorn's skepticism of Al Sips most likely. Sooh killed BSmith. No one was protecting me night one, so Al Sips' visit may have been a roleblock or other non-lethal action.

I think Sooh only gets shot at directly if Zack is the last scum (and maybe not even then) but we're not worrying about that now.

So provisionally Lewwyn is clear mechanically along with Choxorn; GH and I are clear due to mason status, Monty is best provisional clear in the game due to the aborted CFD, followed by Winston with all that Dp stuff day one. Remaining players are just Arakhor, Snerk, Zack, Csargo.

If it's 9-1 right now, 8-1 in morning. Mislynch 7-1, NK 6-1 Mislynch 5-1 NK 4-1 Mislynch 3-1 NK 2-1 LYLO so in an normal game we'd have this locked if all my above clears are correct. Of course, this isn't a normal game and we have more or fewer kills at any time. Any in a really bad world my assumptions are not correct.

My instinct says that vigs in that group of four (I'd prefer Csargo, then Snerk right now) can only help us if anyone has any left. Monty what is the reason you do not want vigs?

[Zack]

Well, I guess that explains the no corruption.

[Montmorency]

So my guess is: Mafia really did shoot at Choxorn night one (redirected to Sooh by Lewwyn), due to Choxorn's skepticism of Al Sips most likely. Sooh killed BSmith. No one was protecting me night one, so Al Sips' visit may have been a roleblock or other non-lethal action.

I think Sooh only gets shot at directly if Zack is the last scum (and maybe not even then) but we're not worrying about that now.

So provisionally Lewwyn is clear mechanically along with Choxorn; GH and I are clear due to mason status, Monty is best provisional clear in the game due to the aborted CFD, followed by Winston with all that Dp stuff day one. Remaining players are just Arakhor, Snerk, Zack, Csargo.

If it's 9-1 right now, 8-1 in morning. Mislynch 7-1, NK 6-1 Mislynch 5-1 NK 4-1 Mislynch 3-1 NK 2-1 LYLO so in an normal game we'd have this locked if all my above clears are correct. Of course, this isn't a normal game and we have more or fewer kills at any time. Any in a really bad world my assumptions are not correct.

My instinct says that vigs in that group of four (I'd prefer Csargo, then Snerk right now) can only help us if anyone has any left. Monty what is the reason you do not want vigs?

Because then it throws the calculations until full reveals the next day - who died from what? Stating vig targets during the night could also lead to wasted vig from targets protecting themselves - better to use jailkeep for that.

I will say this: let me see what I can arrange first, then vigs can use their discretion if necessary. If you're talking about Snerk, do whatever you want with him and call for any help if you need it.


My plans are to focus on Csargo tonight, with Lewwyn's help (and another?). Arakhor could use a scan, as I said. Maybe a track, too. Someone should have a track, right? All we've seen are watches in action. Commit that track power now, people. I will be tracking to ensure that people are doing what they claim.

[Renata]

Day Two end of day vote count:

Visor -- 6(Renata, WInston Hughes, GHC, Choxorn, Arakhor, Sooh)
Sooh -- 5(Atheotes, Snerk, Lewwyn, Montmorency, Kcaz)
Lewwyn -- 1(Visor)
Atheotes -- 1(Csargo)

So that's a bad look for Snerk and an iffy one for Csargo (who was defending Visor at one point). We're not going to speak of what the other living people on Sooh at end of day does to my paranoia.

[Montmorency]

Winston, Choxorn, Arakhor, Zack, are you willing to help?

[Renata]

Masons don't have a vig, probably for balance.

[Zack]

Winston, Choxorn, Arakhor, Zack, are you willing to help?

I think coordinating actions before night is the best way to help the corrupted mage manipulate them.

[Zack]

Masons don't have a vig, probably for balance.

Did you and GH get the same spellbook?

[Zack]

Day Two end of day vote count:

Visor -- 6(Renata, WInston Hughes, GHC, Choxorn, Arakhor, Sooh)
Sooh -- 5(Atheotes, Snerk, Lewwyn, Montmorency, Kcaz)
Lewwyn -- 1(Visor)
Atheotes -- 1(Csargo)

So that's a bad look for Snerk and an iffy one for Csargo (who was defending Visor at one point). We're not going to speak of what the other living people on Sooh at end of day does to my paranoia.

I thought they were both wolves and didn't much care which was lynched.

[Zack]

Is there an updated night action chart?

[Montmorency]

I think coordinating actions before night is the best way to help the corrupted mage manipulate them.

First just tell me your thoughts on how Csargo should be treated. Do you agree that Snerk and Arakhor could also be looked at?

[Montmorency]

Is there an updated night action chart?

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...post2053738519

[Zack]

First just tell me your thoughts on how Csargo should be treated.

I suggest you re-read the post you just quoted.

[Renata]

Did you and GH get the same spellbook?

We each had access to the same list of spells, yes.

[Zack]

I agree the POE is Arakhor, Csargo, Snerk in some order. I won't comment on what night actions should be taken or if anyone should be given priority.

[Zack]

We each had access to the same list of spells, yes.

Can you invite me to mason chat? Is that a spell?

[Csargo]

Day Two end of day vote count:

Visor -- 6(Renata, WInston Hughes, GHC, Choxorn, Arakhor, Sooh)
Sooh -- 5(Atheotes, Snerk, Lewwyn, Montmorency, Kcaz)
Lewwyn -- 1(Visor)
Atheotes -- 1(Csargo)

So that's a bad look for Snerk and an iffy one for Csargo (who was defending Visor at one point). We're not going to speak of what the other living people on Sooh at end of day does to my paranoia.

That's not true at all...

[Montmorency]

OK, we agree. Csargo will be blocked at any rate. gl gl

[Renata]

Can you invite me to mason chat? Is that a spell?

Sorry, we've taken it to a coffee shop outside Seattle. You need to know the barista.

[Renata]

That's not true at all...

It kinda is though.