XCOM Mafia [Concluded]

[novice]

vote:csargo

So why Csargo over Monty now?

[Csargo]

vote:csargo

I like the color. We can go at it if you want Cuth, I'm up for it.

[novice]

Actually I get the feeling that Pizza is overreaching a bit.

[Cuthillius]

Thanks. And calling Monty's vote a joke was just shorthand for a vote with minimal justification?

not a vote?

the joke was the babe thing

probably not MOST accurate terminology, but hey

[novice]

Tally as of post 454:

Lynch votes
2 votes: Champ (Manasi, crimson_snow)
2 votes: Dp101 (Csargo, El Barto)
2 votes: Csargo (Dp101, Cuthillius)
1 votes: Manasi (Champ)
1 votes: Novice (autolycus)
1 votes: Sooh (BSmith)
1 votes: Pizza (Montmorency)
1 votes: El Barto (Fredwood)
1 votes: Cuthilius (novice)
1 votes: Unvote (Logic)
1 votes: Montmorency (Jowy)
1 votes: Jowy (Askthepizzaguy)

Voting history:

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Manasi

Champ

No Lynch

Fredwood

Dp101

No Lynch

Askthepizzaguy

crimson_snow

Askthepizzaguy

Novice

Novice

Winston Hughes

Autolycus

Sooh

Manasi

Pizza

El barto

ATPG

Dp101

dp101

Cuthillius

El Barto

Dp101

Csargo

monty

El Barto

Cuthilius

Unvote

Montmorency

Jowy

Champ

csargo

[Cuthillius]

So why Csargo over Monty now?

reassessing, i think he's scummier

in the light of a new day, i dislike his continued push on dp

i'm not mindmelding with him as much or at all now

i think it makes sense from a perspective/gameplay pov as of right now

monty has that strike against him, but it's really not THAT much and i'd still like to hear more from him before considering lynching him in an ideal world

i also am not super fond of people's reasons for townreading csargo, pizza in particular, and think that independently he doesn't have a ton going for him aorn

[novice]

I never got the Csargo townread either, not that I'm sure anyone but Pizza has actually townread him? Maybe Champ did?
Apparently he's very towny compared to his history of games.

[Cuthillius]

I like the color. We can go at it if you want Cuth, I'm up for it.

not much to go at, tbh

curious why you seem to be implying a desire for thunderdome the instant i vote you after not expressing any such read on me or similar conduct in the past

i still don't like your push on dp

i feel like you're strawmanning a certain couple of his posts that are kinda scummy while ignoring the volumes that aren't

which is not scumhunting, or townhunting, or even properly go about playing mafia

i feel like you've acknowledged that the towny posts exist, while still overrepresenting the weight of the posts that you do find scummy

it's a certain imbalance of perspective that i'm really not too fond of

[Cuthillius]

I never got the Csargo townread either, not that I'm sure anyone but Pizza has actually townread him? Maybe Champ did?
Apparently he's very towny compared to his history of games.

not really "very towny"

he just barely ever posts and now he's posting a bunch, ostensibly because there are people he knows and is friends with that aren't usually

and pizza is reading him town for it because ???

[Cuthillius]

Actually I get the feeling that Pizza is overreaching a bit.

agreed, but we should never lynch there today

lettuce take him off the table

place in the pantry

reexamine tomorrow

after lynching someone other than dp101

[Winston Hughes]

@Cuth

What do you think of Logic and Manasi?

[Cuthillius]

Tally as of post 454:

Lynch votes
2 votes: Champ (Manasi, crimson_snow)
2 votes: Dp101 (Csargo, El Barto)
2 votes: Csargo (Dp101, Cuthillius)
1 votes: Manasi (Champ)
1 votes: Novice (autolycus)
1 votes: Sooh (BSmith)
1 votes: Pizza (Montmorency)
1 votes: El Barto (Fredwood)
1 votes: Cuthilius (novice)
1 votes: Unvote (Logic)
1 votes: Montmorency (Jowy)
1 votes: Jowy (Askthepizzaguy)

Voting history:

does that not recognize unvotes?

[Cuthillius]

@Cuth

What do you think of Logic and Manasi?

no real thought on logic, though gun to head probably town, i KINDA like manasi as of right now but it's like

super thin

and i'm super bad at reading her

as evidenced by recent events

so /shrug

oh @Logic to you in particular

you're improving at mafia

your gameplay is up a couple steps already from your first games here/on cfc

good to see :)

[novice]

I'll have to find a home for my vote, deadline is in the middle of the night for me.
Leaning towards Champ, he promised to be better but isn't. And frankly I long to lynch his lazy ass.
I'll ISO El Barto and Csargo first.

[Cuthillius]

csargo, novice, winston

what are your thoughts on crimson

[novice]

does that not recognize unvotes?

It should, but in general it can be fooled by creative formatting. You can see Logic voting "Unvote" which means his latest vote was an unvote.

[Cuthillius]

I'll have to find a home for my vote, deadline is in the middle of the night for me.
Leaning towards Champ, he promised to be better but isn't. And frankly I long to lynch his lazy ass.
I'll ISO El Barto and Csargo first.

champ is suboptimal low-info lynch today

[novice]

csargo, novice, winston

what are your thoughts on crimson

Still reading him as town.

[novice]

champ is suboptimal low-info lynch today

But oh so satisfying.

[Cuthillius]

Still reading him as town.

talk to me about that, please

[Cuthillius]

But oh so satisfying.

we're still not doing it

[novice]

Okay, El Barto: Not much to say, keeping things fun, but his Dp vote really is bad. Both for reasons outlined by Fred, but also because of poor justification, and the timing seems aimed at pushing Dp over the edge.

[novice]

talk to me about that, please

Standard stuff - good tone, seems solvy, no hint at hidden agendas or artificial tunneling.

What do you see?

[Dp101]

Just finished my last final, and I finally figured out halfway through it what Pizza was trying to say with his map-posting, it was an accusation of projecting. Sorry for being slow on the uptake. A champ lynch is terrible, it gives no info.

[Dp101]

Okay, El Barto: Not much to say, keeping things fun, but his Dp vote really is bad. Both for reasons outlined by Fred, but also because of poor justification, and the timing seems aimed at pushing Dp over the edge.

On the other hand, all his early game votes I've seen in other games have looked equally bad. Not that I think Barto is clear at all, in any way, but a bad vote coming from him is not AI, IMO.

[Cuthillius]

Standard stuff - good tone, seems solvy, no hint at hidden agendas or artificial tunneling.

What do you see?

ok thanks

not much, really

a lot of posts, not much content

this means pretty much nothing

[Cuthillius]

On the other hand, all his early game votes I've seen in other games have looked equally bad. Not that I think Barto is clear at all, in any way, but a bad vote coming from him is not AI, IMO.

yerp

[Winston Hughes]

In the plus column, crimson seems confident and solvey. Thought process on DP101 is plausible. Reaction to El Barto is standard townie fare (from someone who doesn't know the takster).

In the minus column, the 'roleclaim will clear me' bit and other interactions with pizza remind me of scum games in my own back catalogue.

Overall, I'm leaning town atm.

[Cuthillius]

In the plus column, crimson seems confident and solvey. Thought process on DP101 is plausible. Reaction to El Barto is standard townie fare (from someone who doesn't know the takster).

In the minus column, the 'roleclaim will clear me' bit and other interactions with pizza remind me of scum games in my own back catalogue.

Overall, I'm leaning town atm.

ok thanks

[crimson_snow]

I don't disagree that Champ isn't a super informative lynch, though I do think he's pretty likely to just be a wolf. Vote may or may not end the day there, just I don't like the contrast between his excitement and enthusiasm early to his complete and utter lack of attempting to figure out the alignment of players.