XCOM Mafia [Concluded]

[Cuthillius]

How does that reconcile with like, the enthusiasm he had at game start though. Read his ISO, it's only 12 posts. I linked it earlier - not sure if the link still works.

If it was more like BSmith or Autolycus or someone who just isn't posting at all I'd call it not indicative, but coming in all excited and posting rapidly with fluff/jokes but then when the actual game starts....just, stopping, feels pretty off.

it doesn't necessarily, but enthusiasm to not isn't really a universal wolf tell, not that those exist

i

don't think he's TOWNY

but i think there are several people that'd be better lynches here

[crimson_snow]

would you prefer lynching active scummy person or inactive ~rand person

It's not binary. I tend to prefer lynching low-medium content posters I think are very likely to be a wolf, and less likely to be able to more clearly clear or condemn themselves by virtue of having higher activity in future days.

I want to at least pressure Champ because I think there's a mindset discrepancy between his early game enthusiasm his actual game content. Plus he just popped in to respond to a joke without actually making a game relevant post. It's not just an inactive, it's someone deliberately not playing the game who looked excited to do so.

[Csargo]

ignore that then

it's mostly been that, you've mentioned a few other people as consideration but apparently are scumreading DP SO highly that you're not even considering anyone else

look, you quoted those posts, yeah? i don't see how those outweigh the many towny posts he's made

there are a few posts that are scummy

they're not even that scummy

but you are acting like they are, and bringing them up like they're worth more than they are

it COULD just be that i vastly disagree with you, but that just seems

wrong or off or something

but i just see a massive discrepancy between your stated confidence in your reads and the basis you're grounding them on

Clearly we just view it differently. I don't view the townie posts with a huge amount of weight, especially after being pressured, because if Dp101 is a skilled player, and I think he is, it's not terribly hard to fake early on. So yeah I don't think it's unreasonable to view him in the way that I am. You can lynch me for it, but I've not seen anything convincing enough to definitively say he's town.

I just disagree with you on a fundamental level. That's a terrible reason to vote for someone though imo.

[Dp101]

Cuth is quite strong town from my perspective right now. Also hate the vote on Sooh.

[Logic]

Mobile posting: exoect errors.

Brief insight: if Dp101 is scum, I find it unlikely that novice is on his team. I saw at least one post by novice that looks like too convincing a case for Dp101 and novice to be on the same team.

And @Cuthillius I don't think I've greatly improved over the 4 games I've played since the one on CFC. If I remember right, I was killed n1 that game.

Plus, you were around to see me royally mess up Pokemon, so I'd say I haven't been given enough time to show how bad I can be.

Of the lurkers, I'm most comfortable taking down Monty. Any takers?
Vote: Montmorency.

[Dp101]

Clearly we just view it differently. I don't view the townie posts with a huge amount of weight, especially after being pressured, because if Dp101 is a skilled player, and I think he is, it's not terribly hard to fake early on. So yeah I don't think it's unreasonable to view him in the way that I am. You can lynch me for it, but I've not seen anything convincing enough to definitively say he's town.

I just disagree with you on a fundamental level. That's a terrible reason to vote for someone though imo.

So, what would I have to do for you to actually accept that I'm towny? Because while I appreciate the compliment, being told that I'm a good enough player that I could fake anything towny does not exactly fill me with confidence with regards to you getting out of this push on me anytime soon.

[Csargo]

You know, I'm actually becoming gradually mroe ok with a Champ lynch. Him just popping in really does not feel that typical of his play.

This is what he did in ATPG's game. His early game was off though.

[Csargo]

So, what would I have to do for you to actually accept that I'm towny? Because while I appreciate the compliment, being told that I'm a good enough player that I could fake anything towny does not exactly fill me with confidence with regards to you getting out of this push on me anytime soon.

I'll iso you when I get home and see how it looks with a different day. I'm considering Monty or crimson_snow, what do you think of them?

This is like the antithesis of Sooh in pizza's game, which doesn't inspire confidence.

[Winston Hughes]

Vote: Logic

The background is that he was the host of the recent game where I randed a miller-type role, in which I opened with the same hardclaim bit as I opened with here. Discussions around that claim ended up dominating the whole first day, culminating in me getting mislynched, but not before I correctly picked out several townies and scumbags based on their reactions. He and I then spent a while talking about the day's events in dead chat.

In this context, his reaction here looks bad to me. It was like he felt he needed to react in some way, but got caught between playing along with the claim and showing that he knew it wasn't for real.

Then there was Manasi's reaction, which felt like he was giving us both town credit far too cheaply, and made me wonder if he'd got some inside line from scumchat.

And looking at their ISOs - and Manasi's weak (and delayed) response to my question - I'm not seeing any great reason to townread either of them, or to doubt that they might be scumbuddies.

[Csargo]

Granted, I'm pretty sure that was like 24 hours ago.

Vote: Sooh

I you, but I don't like this.

[Dp101]

I'll iso you when I get home and see how it looks with a different day. I'm considering Monty or crimson_snow, what do you think of them?

This is like the antithesis of Sooh in pizza's game, which doesn't inspire confidence.

Monty just has nothing, at all. He seems completely different to any of his prior games, so I have no idea what to really think of him. Crimson is a terrible option, they are pure as the driven snow. Try again.

[Champ]

Sup I'm going to Wonder Woman
I would usually say that I'll read later but we all know I won't

[Champ]

Going to see Wonder Woman

[Winston Hughes]

Aww, man, I was hoping that 'to Wonder Woman' was some kind of wild gambit.

[Dp101]

Going to see Wonder Woman

So, you turn up, just to say that you won't turn up. Great.

[crimson_snow]

Eh.

Probably makes Champ a sub-optimal lynch though I'd cry approximately zero tears if he were to die mysteriously in the night for reasons.

I'm out for a while will be back in a few hours well before end of day.

[Champ]

So, you turn up, just to say that you won't turn up. Great.

Yes

[Csargo]

Monty just has nothing, at all. He seems completely different to any of his prior games, so I have no idea what to really think of him. Crimson is a terrible option, they are pure as the driven snow. Try again.

Crimson tone good, but content was questionable from what I remember.

[Csargo]

Champ makes me sad.

[Manasi]

An excuse that excuses one day of a 48h phase is fine

never coming back is the issue.




K i n d a r i d i c u l o u s i m o




Also COMPLETELY not okay with a Monty lynch.

If we're lynching a low poster, it's gonna be Sooh and not Monty.

[BSmith]

Yeah. Sorry about lurking today. I'm on vacation through this weekend so things are a little off. That and I am never that talkative let alone on D1 when there really isn't much solid to go on other than tone and meta analysis, which absent gross incompetence usually isn't indicative. Most of my time is just going to keeping up. But at least the noise ratio is lower this game than other recent D1s. Don't expect much from me the next couple of days.

[Sooh]

Will attempt to catch up.

Any excuse for not being here is just that, an excuse. No excuses anymore though.

500 posts. I can do this.

Sorry in advance if I bring up points that have already been discussed to death.

[Csargo]

An excuse that excuses one day of a 48h phase is fine

never coming back is the issue.




K i n d a r i d i c u l o u s i m o




Also COMPLETELY not okay with a Monty lynch.

If we're lynching a low poster, it's gonna be Sooh and not Monty.

Monty def your scumbuddy huh. I see.

[Cuthillius]

An excuse that excuses one day of a 48h phase is fine

never coming back is the issue.




K i n d a r i d i c u l o u s i m o




Also COMPLETELY not okay with a Monty lynch.

If we're lynching a low poster, it's gonna be Sooh and not Monty.

let's say we lynch someone who's at least moderately active

who'd you prefer if that were the case

[Manasi]

let's say we lynch someone who's at least moderately active

who'd you prefer if that were the case

not csargo

not atpg

not logic/winston

not crimson

not monty in italics

[Cuthillius]

unvote: for now

[Manasi]

what time is eod even

[Cuthillius]

not csargo

not atpg

not logic/winston

not crimson

not monty in italics

so, like

nobody who's been on the table all day except dp?

[crimson_snow]

so, like

nobody who's been on the table all day except dp?

This kind of feels disingenuous. Champ, El Barto, Jowy have all gotten serious votes that I can recall off top of head, while I think Csargo is only one of those that has.

[Sooh]

Has BSmith even moved his vote once?