XCOM Mafia [Concluded]

[Csargo]

Wonder Woman was good

That's cool, tell me other things.

[Montmorency]

Pizza's always lynched D1, live a little.

That's not true!

[Champ]

What kind

[Askthepizzaguy]

You, Monty, are purely daft for thinking that I as scum cannot manage to get more than 2 votes on a given candidate, and would let a massive tie like this at 2 votes apiece happen.

You guys remember what I've always said about low-tallies and how pro-town they are on day 1?

How it ruined the scum team in representative democracy to get lynched on so few votes, for similar albeit different principles?

You're going to overlook (a) my townieness which couldn't shine any brighter today unless I was literally in the champs finale and (b) how I'm actually a competent wolf that would never,

Ever,

Ever

Let this current tally be how things stand

Then I don't know if you will ever read me properly in any game. You just don't have it in you. Point blank.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Not moving my vote. I'm gonna let it be 2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2.

I vow upon pain of being called a wolf, I'm not moving my vote.

But it needed to be said. Monty, you're just bad, bro.

[Csargo]

That's not true!

It's 99% true 67% of the time.

[Csargo]

You are a top-3 poster with 70 posts. As I said last game, Csargo-postmore trend. Scummy?

That's a bad way to read people, you probably shouldn't do that.

[Dp101]

This wagon formation always lynches a wolf.

Tally as of post 606:

Lynch votes
2 votes: Sooh (BSmith, Manasi)
2 votes: Champ (crimson_snow, Jowy)
2 votes: El Barto (Fredwood, Sooh)
2 votes: Csargo (Dp101, novice)
2 votes: Montmorency (Logic, Cuthillius)
2 votes: Jowy (Askthepizzaguy, Csargo)
1 votes: No Lynch (Montmorency)
1 votes: Dp101 (El Barto)
1 votes: Novice (autolycus)
1 votes: Manasi (Champ)
1 votes: Logic (Winston Hughes)

Voting history:

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Manasi

Champ

No Lynch

Fredwood

Dp101

No Lynch

Askthepizzaguy

crimson_snow

Askthepizzaguy

Novice

Novice

Winston Hughes

Autolycus

Sooh

Manasi

El barto

ATPG

Dp101

dp101

Cuthillius

El Barto

Dp101

Csargo

monty

El Barto

Cuthilius

Unvote

Montmorency

Jowy

Champ

csargo

Csargo

Champ

Sooh

Montmorency

Logic

Unvote

montmorency

El Barto

Jowy

[Csargo]

What kind

The kind that help me, help you.

[Csargo]

This wagon formation always lynches a wolf.

Tally as of post 606:

Lynch votes
2 votes: Sooh (BSmith, Manasi)
2 votes: Champ (crimson_snow, Jowy)
2 votes: El Barto (Fredwood, Sooh)
2 votes: Csargo (Dp101, novice)
2 votes: Montmorency (Logic, Cuthillius)
2 votes: Jowy (Askthepizzaguy, Csargo)
1 votes: No Lynch (Montmorency)
1 votes: Dp101 (El Barto)
1 votes: Novice (autolycus)
1 votes: Manasi (Champ)
1 votes: Logic (Winston Hughes)

Voting history:

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So you're gonna keep voting me? Coolio.

[Manasi]

I wanna vote on Pizza just because he triggered me by posting Phighter's MU picture.

[Montmorency]

Not moving my vote. I'm gonna let it be 2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2.

I vow upon pain of being called a wolf, I'm not moving my vote.

But it needed to be said. Monty, you're just bad, bro.

You said it held so long as scum could be threatened. Perhaps, if you're scum, you have found a situation in which your team is not threatened. In this case, a multi-tie is pretty pro-scum.

I haven't even bared my teeth yet.

That's a bad way to read people, you probably shouldn't do that.

Don't worry, I'm sure something else comes up.

[Jowy]

Vote: csargo

Got opportunistic scum vibes from him. Once is a coincidence, twice probably not.

Also going to bed so gnight.

[Csargo]

Vote: csargo

Got opportunistic scum vibes from him. Once is a coincidence, twice probably not.

Also going to bed so gnight.

[Dp101]

Confidence in Csargo read dropping by the second.

[Csargo]

I 2/2 in the OMGUS department, sweet.

[Csargo]

I'm 2/2 in the OMGUS department, sweet.

[Zack]

Official Tally as of #617

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Day 1 ends in:

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3 Csargo (Dp101, novice, Jowy)

2 El Barto (Fredwood, Sooh)
2 Jowy (Askthepizzaguy, Csargo)
2 Montmorency (Logic, Cuthillius)
2 Sooh (BSmith, Manasi)

1 Askthepizzaguy (Montmorency)
1 Champ (crimson_snow)
1 Dp101 (El Barto)
1 Logic (Winston Hughes)
1 Manasi (Champ)
1 novice (autolycus)

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Not Voting: (everyone has voted )

Not Posting: (everyone has posted )

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If you notice anything wrong, PM me.

[El Barto]

Not on my watch. vote: Jowy

Noting that there is a new note noted in my notes.

Hah! I *TOLD* you people that he wasn't asleep.

Also, I'd probably not call me cs, if that's what you were referring to. That's mildly confusing with a Csargo in the game.

It is meant to be pronounced as [t͡s], actually. It's from the Russian ‘царь’.

The second thing that stands out to me is Barto's pressure of me and subsequent ignorance of it, even after I addressed it in a non-commital, half confrontational way. Early pressure and votes seem to be a rather important part of the meta here. So I kind of have a question that i hope doesn't get lost in this wall of text that's forming. With new players, how likely is a null read lynch likely to happen? Is it kind of a courtesy policy to not lynch a new player in that situation?

If the answer is yes to this question, would a town not reroll for pressure? Further if Bart is scum, it's an easy vote to place knowing it won't get much traction and likely little information, but still appears like he's participating by deliberately picking a weak vote on a not likely to be lynched target.

If he kept pressuring me after my response I'd feel better about this interaction. Playing the helpful townie explaining how the pressure works here, asking if I'm just not going to respond to pressure, are just two options I would have liked to have seen among many. There's a precedent for players not responding to early pressure that has already been stated in thread, but with no meta to read on me there's no way he'd know this. Instead of pushing more, he ignores the interaction entirely then votes for low hanging fruit with some built-in cover. (The Cover being CSARGO and ASTPG who I have slight town reads for different reasons...ASTPG mainly for his insistence that he was going to bed and then not actually going to bed and still posting in thread).

SOOOOOOO

Vote: El Barto

With Bart voting for him, I think DP is likely telling the truth about being unable to participate and just made a bad post (from my perspective), and Barto is trying to cash in on the opportunity to get in some low information participation votes early.

Pressure, sir? My vote in these games is always, by definition, a random vote.

Not even I would go to such ridiculous lengths to justify a belated OMGUS-type vote.

It's beautiful up here.

Are you admitting to being, as they call it, ‘high’?

I'm the towniest person in this game obviously.

Yes, you are.

[Champ]

Vote: Jowy

[Zack]

Official Tally as of #620

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Day 1 ends in:

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4 Jowy (Askthepizzaguy, Csargo, El Barto, Champ)

3 Csargo (Dp101, novice, Jowy)

2 El Barto (Fredwood, Sooh)
2 Montmorency (Logic, Cuthillius)
2 Sooh (BSmith, Manasi)

1 Askthepizzaguy (Montmorency)
1 Champ (crimson_snow)
1 Logic (Winston Hughes)
1 novice (autolycus)

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Not Voting: (everyone has voted )

Not Posting: (everyone has posted )

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If you notice anything wrong, PM me.

[Montmorency]

I don't know what I'm doing, so I won't tie it.

[Dp101]

Vote: Jowy

I was moderately ready to vote Jowy before this, Pizza's opinion on him not notwithstanding, but this just makes the wagon look even more scummy to me.

[Dp101]

I don't know what I'm doing, so I won't tie it.

I appreciate the honesty.

[Manasi]

I was moderately ready to vote Jowy before this, Pizza's opinion on him not notwithstanding, but this just makes the wagon look even more scummy to me.

Why are you scum reading champ?

[Manasi]

Sup Monty

[El Barto]

I notice that, for the second time in the day, I have joined with Askthepizzaguy and Csargo to be third on a leading bandwaggon.

[Manasi]

Disclaimer I will be phoneposting almost every EOD bc I'm an old and I get in bed at 10:50

[Manasi]

I notice that, for the second time in the day, I have joined with Askthepizzaguy and Csargo to be third on a leading bandwaggon.

How does it feel?

[Dp101]

Why are you scum reading champ?

The sudden jumping onto the wagon feels wrong, from him.