"Those who play with the devil's toys will be brought by degrees to wield his sword."
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Game Information:
- This game is based on XCOM 2. The mafia are XCOM and the town are aliens invading earth. I will neither confirm nor deny the possibility of other parties.
- There will be no cults, no jesters, no roles which can influence voting / the lynch, no false alignment reveals.
- There will be unique and unusual roles and mechanics. I'm doing my best to balance the scales between a simple, streamlined experience and a complex clusterfluster. In that regard, it should be similar~ish to the Futurama game I hosted last year.
- It will be cool (maybe) and fun (hopefully) and balanced (no promises).
~ The Town are the ALIEN INVADERS intent on conquering Earth. They seek to eliminate the mafia and any hostile third-parties. Most players are town. A sample town Role PM is shown below:
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Knowing that my past surgical experience is limited, I'm sure the crew appreciates I hone my skills on fallen ADVENT before triaging our own wounded. To the uninitiated the common ADVENT Trooper is seemingly human, the aliens have disguised its most glaring divergence from the human form with with a carefully designed helmet.
The Town achieves victory based on its ability to achieve the goals listed below.
- The Mafia (XCOM) are eliminated.
- Any and all hostile Third-Parties are eliminated.
- At least one member of the Town survives the game.
Abilities:
None - you are vanilla town.
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If you have any questions, ask me privately.
~ The Mafia are an XCOM SQUAD trying to kick the aliens back into space. They must eliminate the town and any hostile third-parties.
~ There may or may not be Third-Party factions in the game. This may take the form of serial killers or something else, but there is guaranteed to be no second mafia team or cult. They win by eliminating the town, mafia, and any other hostile third-parties.
~ There may or may not be Neutral factions in the game. Neutral parties have their own goals. They are not necessarily a threat to mafia, town, or third-party victories.
~ There may or may not be factions which do not exactly fit into any of the above categories.
~ You cannot brute force the game using a spreadsheet, mass role reveal, or your knowledge of the universe.
~ Character name and faction will be immediately revealed when a player dies, though any abilities will generally not be revealed.
Posting and Communication(READ THIS SECTION)
~ Posting is allowed during both the Day and Night phases. However, there will be locked periods around the deadlines where you will not be allowed to post. These will usually be short and are for me to get updates ready and stuff.
~ You are NOT allowed to post your Role PM in the thread. Do not reference it, explicitly or in a way that bends around the spirit of "don't discuss your Role PM." Do not speculate what is in someone's Role PM, do not refer to any wording or pictures in your Role PM, hell I'd prefer if you refrain from saying "Role PM" altogether. That's not what this game is about.
~ Private communication with other players is forbidden, unless I explicitly tell you otherwise. You cannot privately discuss the game with living players, dead players, or people who are not in the game. This includes private messages, QuickTopics, instant messaging, and so on. The only person you can talk to about the game privately is me, or your fellow players in a host-created QuickTopic I give you access to.
~ Do not edit your posts for any reason. If you edit a post containing a vote, that vote will be rendered invalid.
~ Do not quote any private communications or post any QuickTopic links in the public game thread. Do not directly quote anything I say to you in private (especially your Role PM and/or night results). Don't say "Zack told me my action failed," instead say "my action failed". The first is a rule break, the second is fine. This also applies to screenshots.
~ Unless I explicitly tell you otherwise, if you are dead do not post at all or thank any posts. On that note, I don't care if living players thank posts.
~ You are expected to vote each day, and post at least once each Day phase - more is preferred, but that is the absolute minimum. If you fail to meet those requirements, I reserve the right to remove you from the game immediately (via substitution or modkill).
~ Do not talk about substitutions or modkills in the thread. Don't speculate on it (whether or not it's happened), don't mention it at all. The extent you can acknowledge this is that it happened, e.g. "I thought Bob was town but his replacement rubs me the wrong way". Examples of rule breaks would be "I think Bob subbed out because blah" or "Bob should sub out".
~ Do not ask me any questions in the game thread, I will ignore them. Whether it is a genuine question, an attempt to angleshoot yourself clear or derpclear yourself, I don't give a shit, don't do it. Ask me in private and I will answer publicly or privately as appropriate.
~ Treat your fellow players with respect. Don't be a dick. This is, after all, a game people play for fun, with no actual consequences. You are allowed to criticize ideas and suggestions, but not the people behind those ideas and suggestions. Follow the forum rules.
I WILL HAVE A LOW TOLERANCE FOR ANYONE WHO BREAKS ANY OF THE ABOVE RULES.
READ CAREFULLY.
FOLLOW THE RULES.
Day and Night
~ Day is typically around 48 hours, and Night is usually about 24 hours. I won't deviate too much from this, and deadlines will usually be at 11:30 pm US Eastern time. Phases may be extended for whatever reason, but they will never end prematurely. My schedule is inconsistent, but I will do my best.
~ There are no abilities which affect deadline timing.
~ A timer showing the exact amount of time remaining in the phase will be provided at each phase update and with each posted tally.
~ Vote tallies will be posted throughout the Day as I am able. Players are free to make and post their own tallies (including novice's plugin), but I will not use them and they should be taken with a grain of salt. Do not intentionally post misleading tallies.
~ During the Day, players vote for each other (e.g. Vote: Zack). Vote tags are mandatory (Vote: < player >), a simple bolding will not suffice and I won't count it. Unvoting is not required - simply make a new vote. I don't care about color. Voting for No Lynch is allowed. Abstaining is not allowed at any time.
THE ABOVE IS VERY IMPORTANT!
~ There may or may not be abilities which can be used during the Day phase.
~ During the Night phase, players send in night actions if they have an ability which requires one. Night action feedback will be minimal, and you might not always receive a PM from me.
I think that covers it. If you have any questions, CTRL+F the rules first, then ask me (in private).
Oh, how quickly those pesky rumors spread. Despite Jowy's earnest protestations that he indeed wanted more balaten and that this was all a gross misunderstanding, it was too late. His time was up.
So I've decided to group together some interesting posts from these last 24 hours.
Manasi:
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Originally Posted by Manasi
sup.
Leave me alone, Barto. I got the done and then decided to relax for a second. I thought it'd be better if I let you guys know before because I knew I'd be working for like 20 hours straight.
Still a wagon feelsbadman.
5 PM EOD feelsbadman.
Prolly won't be around, mostly bc I'll probably just be coming home from work.
As for slight catch up...
Csargo is town.
I think novice is town. -- Yes, that means I think we had v/v/v wagons. I know that's unreasonable, just a gut read.
I feel like I'm not gonna be able to be very happy this game until we resolve Sooh, but that might be me just being stubborn.
El Barto dropping RAPIDLY. Would vote today or tomorrow.
Should be around for the rest of the day unless my other boss realizes he hasn't seen me in something around a week.
Oh yes, girl, I was completely onto you.
Originally Posted by Manasi
Oh. I forgot to give Cuth a town read!
wtf???
Originally Posted by Manasi
I think there have been two people in this game who have town read me.
Good work, you guys.
People just seem comfortable in their POE and I'm gonna be at work/in a car until EOD.
I do still think that people are just overlooking auto which really bugs me.
I have maybe read one BSmith post but I'd go for them over me if it came to it.
I don't think Sooh has been posting better but I also don't think she's getting lynched in any world today so rip.
Sooh, what were the questions I didn't respond to?
Again with autolycus, what's with you, lass?
So, considers novice to be her town core, Csargo and Cuth are also town to dilute it.
Novice:
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Originally Posted by novice
Welp, just seven hours left in the day?
I meant, were you really that sussed?
It was a crosspost.
Should also include post 1535:
Town:
novice
Not willing to lynch:
Cuthillius
Dp101
Winston Hughes
Don't think so:
Sooh
Fredwood
Willing to lynch:
autolycus
BSmith
Csargo
El Barto
Logic
Manasi
Montmorency
Strange coincidence - both novice and Manasi have Cuthillius as part of their town core. This is either very good shading or poor distancing/pocketing.
Let us remember that Cuthillius spearheaded the lynch of askthepizzaguy on D2. And that he also started the BSmith bandwaggon.
Originally Posted by novice
Originally Posted by Sooh
Also, your scum list is way too long. Can you sort out who are the more likely scums?
Not so easy. Maybe:
Willing to lynch:
Manasi
Montmorency
More willing to lynch:
Csargo
El Barto
Even more willing to lynch:
autolycus
BSmith
Logic
But now, see, when novice's list is the centre of attention, he drops Cuthillius from it altogether. Best not to discuss him.
Originally Posted by novice
Good job, novice!
Yay, yay, yay, right?
tl; dr: spews Cuthillius as highly possible third partner.
BSmith:
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Originally Posted by BSmith
...and now it looks like I am just popping in because I am being talked about, but in reality it is my first real break in the day from work. Oh well. Life happens.
As to me being directed, I can assure you that no such thing is happening. I’m calling it as I see it and like I said in retrospect my vote on ATPG looks bad and the timing is being construed negatively, but with the limited time I have to post in the day that is just how it played out. Take that how you will. I said before and I’ll say again, I’d vote ATPG again given the chance and the info I had at the time. If that earns me a lynch, then so be it.
But I don’t want to die today, so vote: Manasi.
Hmmm. Sounds a bit more like a misinformed townie than anything else. And he did vote Manasi.
Dp101 avec Montmorency:
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Originally Posted by Dp101
I would not be opposed to a Csargo Cfd.
At :08 no less!
Originally Posted by Dp101
Vote: BSmith I'll explain why later, you just have to trust me for a bit.
Originally Posted by Montmorency
Fredwood started the wagon. Cuth, Csargo 3rd.
Fine, since they're among my towniest, let's put their process to the test and see if they're not saving scum Manasi or novice.
Vote: BSmith
At :56 and :57!
I do not think Monty would be that clumsy. Dp101's doing what he can to save his scumsister.
Updated reads: novice is dead meat. If (when) he dies, test Cuthillius and Dp101.
Maybe there is a third party, maybe there isn't. We'll have to check on that.
fake edit: I'll check Montmorency's 1739.
good lord| if you're telling the truth you're setting new records for scumminess as a townie -Renata on IM, 16/09/2011
Feles deliberatissimae subiugare humanitiati sunt, et res solae quae eas desinunt canes sunt.
I see I've been sigged yet again -Askthepizzaguy, 02/08/2012
Hindsight is 20/20 Askthepizzaguy, 10/07/2013
Barto, at least for Cuth, how do you weigh his claim to have poisoned Pizza? You think this is the inverse of Manasi last game?
Good point! Manasi may well have gotten the idea off my attack on her that game and used it here to justify how one of them could be moving towards pizza if he was watched that night and then they could claim to have been trying to cure him. I'm still mulling it over.
While I read your "BSMITH-NOVICE WAGON ALIGNMENT ANALYSIS", did atpg ever say anything about the poisoning? Poison attacks, injuries and so forth have been a constant in the UFO games since the very first one, so it's presumable that Zack would have informed him of that so that he could seek an antidote/medikit.
good lord| if you're telling the truth you're setting new records for scumminess as a townie -Renata on IM, 16/09/2011
Feles deliberatissimae subiugare humanitiati sunt, et res solae quae eas desinunt canes sunt.
I see I've been sigged yet again -Askthepizzaguy, 02/08/2012
Hindsight is 20/20 Askthepizzaguy, 10/07/2013
Good point! Manasi may well have gotten the idea off my attack on her that game and used it here to justify how one of them could be moving towards pizza if he was watched that night and then they could claim to have been trying to cure him. I'm still mulling it over.
While I read your "BSMITH-NOVICE WAGON ALIGNMENT ANALYSIS", did atpg ever say anything about the poisoning? Poison attacks, injuries and so forth have been a constant in the UFO games since the very first one, so it's presumable that Zack would have informed him of that so that he could seek an antidote/medikit.
AFAIK Pizza just said he was VTown and never received any notice of poisoning, that he felt Cuth was town but lolCuth.
Look up "lolCuth", gonna be out for a bit.
Csargo, respond to my alignments analysis, it addresses all your questions just now.
Vitiate Man.
History repeats the old conceits
The glib replies, the same defeats
AFAIK Pizza just said he was VTown and never received any notice of poisoning, that he felt Cuth was town but lolCuth.
Look up "lolCuth", gonna be out for a bit.
I'll try a few keyword searches.
Originally Posted by Montmorency
Csargo, respond to my alignments analysis, it addresses all your questions just now.
good lord| if you're telling the truth you're setting new records for scumminess as a townie -Renata on IM, 16/09/2011
Feles deliberatissimae subiugare humanitiati sunt, et res solae quae eas desinunt canes sunt.
I see I've been sigged yet again -Askthepizzaguy, 02/08/2012
Hindsight is 20/20 Askthepizzaguy, 10/07/2013
AFAIK Pizza just said he was VTown and never received any notice of poisoning, that he felt Cuth was town but lolCuth.
Look up "lolCuth", gonna be out for a bit.
Csargo, respond to my alignments analysis, it addresses all your questions just now.
You didn't respond to my first one though.
It's weird Manasi didn't vote to save herself, she was here EoD right?
You continue to put a huge amount of weight onto Fredwood's half a paragraph about BSmith, that amounts to exactly what everyone already knew about BSmith's behavior. Could all your hypotheticals be true? Sure they could, but this is conspiracy theory levels of connection that you're putting forward imo. You're pulling it out of nowhere as far as I can tell, outside of we voted together. There's more of a connection between Cuth/Dp than me and Fredwood. We need flips, plain and simple.
You've also subtracted 3 people from the equation, with little explanation as to why, other than they look good and don't fit together.
Originally Posted by Sooh
I wonder if I can make Csargo cry harder by doing everyone but his ISO.
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Originally Posted by Manasi
done and then decided to relax for a second. I thought it'd be better if I let you guys know before because I knew I'd be working for like 20 hours straight.
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