Almohad Kaliphate (V.I. version)

[Demon of Light]

Quote[/b] (Demon of Light @ June 01 2003,00:04)]Well...my brother just got VI so assuming the problem that I have can be resolved in time (look in the Apothacary for details), I think it time I finally jumped into one of these.

translation: Put me on the list. VI is now loaded and assuming the problems I'm having now are resolved (most likely they will be) I'll be able to play.

[Monk]

would u look at that...im behind chaoselord again. i guess im destined to be his son in these campaigns

[KukriKhan]

Done. Toto, amigo. As 9th Khalipha, you may have the honor (and resposibility) of closing out this campaign. On the other hand, if we get many more 11-year reigns like Monk's, you could be thrown into the Mongol Whore'd without warning.

Welcome to the game.

p.s. after all your work admin'ing the chaotic English PbM campaign & help with the Poland campaign & here: let me publicly acknowledge your contribution(s)...Thanks, man. I personally appreciate your effort. 1st beer on me.

and LoL Monk; what IS up with that?

[ChaosLord]

Better take me off this list, in the process of moving now so most of my time is being spent packing and transporting the stuff. Not sure how long it'd be before I get a connection setup in my new place either.

[The_Emperor]

KukriKhan

Thats ok pal, I'll join in a different game. The Almohads are not eaxactly my fave side in this game... (I was playing a campaign with them, but generally I do not like them)

I'll wait until you have another English one, or a different Catholic/Orthodox faction playing. The HRE sounds like fun, and Byzantium would be a blast. But if Byzantium is too easy then How about High Russians?

High Russians... Hmm, a lot of weed is growing over in Moscovy

[Degtyarev14.5]

A two-in-the-morning Oh crap, I hope that's okay-type concern:

I've modded my game slightly, such as reducing the build times on the smaller ships to two years, and disabling arbs until late era. Is this okay? Or do I have to change everything back for the duration of my reign?

A.

[Demon of Light]

Chaos Lord: If your condition is merely a temporary one, it may be possible to drop your name a little further down the list instead of removing it entirely. How about it Kukri?

[Maniac]

I am pretty sure your game must be unmodded, Arse (or do you prefer to be called Clown? )

[Mount Suribachi]

Yeah, we all need to be running MTW:VI on the same setup, so AC, I would recommend you install a vanilla MTW:VI in a separate folder from your modded version.

And Chaoslords dropout promotes me to the key 4th Reign...yikes I can feel the pressure

[KukriKhan]

So The List, as of 3 June:

SeljukSinan (current Khalipha)
Monk
Maniac
Mount Suribachi
Simon Appleton
Skie Mirror Silvanoshei
ArseClown
Alrowan
Demon of Light
ChaosLord

This is assuming ChaosLord still wants in, only later.

ArseClown yes, good point: we're playing un-modified VI in this project. If you have HD space, a separate install of VI when it's your turn will keep you up to speed.

The_Emporer, thanks for your input. The High Russkies ;)sounds like a good (and short) project for maybe a week from now.

[Demon of Light]

Quote[/b] (KukriKhan @ June 01 2003,18:24)]p.s. after all your work admin'ing the chaotic English PbM campaign & help with the Poland campaign & here: let me publicly acknowledge your contribution(s)...Thanks, man. I personally appreciate your effort. 1st beer on me.

I appreciate the sentiment and I await that beer.

[Monk]

lets hope i last longer than 11 years this time

[Degtyarev14.5]

De-modding VI: no problem whatsoever.

But perhaps this should have been addressed earlier:

Green generals? Or no?

Feedback please.

A.

[Mount Suribachi]

Hmm, good point, I'm set to green generals ATM, but it would be relatively easy to remove it from the command line for the sake of 1 kings reign.

[econ21]

I've a definite preference for green generals - more historical flavour. I'm not sure if I speak for others, but we're playing the VI version of this campaign, so I guess most people who've signed up want to try the new stuff in it.

[sprucemoose]

boo hooo

looks like ive been left out of this version

[econ21]

Just wondering how SeljukSinan is getting on. The other Almohad game is on their fourth Kalipha right now.

[KukriKhan]

SeljukSinan last posted here at approximately 1400 GMT, 1 June. It's now approximately 0400 GMT, 5 June, a day-and-a-half beyond the 48-hour must post progress rule stated at the beginning of the thread/project.

Real-life does happen, and computer games must take a backseat to handling the crises that occur in all our lives from time to time.

Nevertheless, in fairness to the rest of the players, the project must proceed, and the rule, bent already, must be enforced.

SeljukSinan must post his progress by 1400 GMT, 5 June, or the game moves to the next player (who would be Monk)

[Shahed]

Hi All,

Sorry i did not read the rules carefully enough. I will post progress, this evening. My game should be done by Saturday. My apologies for the lack of speed.

[Shahed]

Hi Kukri

I'm sorry I can't post my progress tonight. I have screenies which need to be converted and home obligations will prevent me from writing anything in length till tomorrow. I really hope that you will wait till tomorrowm as I would reall want to display my king's reign in a colorful way.

I should be finished with the game by Saturday evening CET at latest. I will email it to you tomorrow night or Saturday soon as I'm done.

Sinan

[KukriKhan]

Hi SeljukSinan.

No worries, m8. We just want to know that you're still active...in other words: a post every other day that merely says: Still playing would suffice. No big production is necessary - heck, that would make this project work, not fun, and nobody wants that.

Seeing the high number of views for this topic tells me that guys (mostly the volunteer players, I bet) check in here frequently just to see the latest news.

I set the must post every 48 hours, or forfeit rule to avoid the problems with the previous English & Polish campaigns: guys would get the saveGame & apparently forget about it for weeks (for perfectly good reasons, I'm sure), but leaving the next players in line dangling on a slimmer and slimmer thread of hope.

So, in summary: take your time, do it right (your way), just let us know it's still alive every other day.

p.s. I'm SO glad you saw this & responded. I hate being the bad guy. I can do it well (be the bad guy) - the Army and 4 kids taught me how. But I hate it. I especially didn't want to make whatever effort you'd made in the campaign null and void...since you'd already posted here your campaign strategy philosophy & overall plan.

[econ21]

Kukrikhan - that's a nice post. Reading it just made me want to say thanks to you for your efforts in this thread and elsewhere as a moderator. Its thanks to you and other like-minded folk that these forums are such fun places to frequent.

I agree 100% with what you wrote. In inquiriing about SeljukSinan's progress I wasn't trying to have him ousted, just trying to keep this thread on the boil and was genuinely interested to hear his in-character story (I confess I've never played the Almohads before).

[Shahed]

Kukri I'd like to say thanks as well. I really appreciate your patience. I usually post from work where I am mostly undisturbed and can manage my own time. From home it's a different issue.

You do a great job as a moderator. I really appreciate your initiatives, such as this one, and really appreciate the way you are respectful in the way you write.

I also started playing another game recently which is ONLY playable online. A friend introduced me to a guild (fighting order) on the very first day. I feel somewhat obliged to develop my skills there so as to be of use to the guild. As such a lot of my home PC time did go into that or I could have finished earlier. Any case I will be finished by Saturday.

About the campaign, it's not been so easy to implement my strategy and I have had some trouble, but all in all I think at least 1 of the glory goals should be met. Can't wait to get home and finish it up soon. I also had some trouble planning the campaign. Usually I take some screenies of the camp map, and then retreat to Paintshop pro where I actually think up the entire game, and note objectives. I form up ideas of the armies and sketch routes over the map in Paint Shop. Once done I print it out and follow the operation. With only one kinf it really should be easier but errr, did not work that great so far.

Don't worry, you guy will get a stable regime (I hope) to handle Monk.

[econ21]

I've been fretting a bit about the leaders dying at age 56 bug and Brutal_DLX just made a good suggestion on another thread. Typing .unfreeze. will give you a newborn heir. Can I suggest that if any calipha does not have an heir by age 39, then in that year, they use the .unfreeze. cheat? Apparently, you can't wait until you are 55 or whatever to use it, as the heir won't have time to mature, as Ziphnor has found out to his cost. If anyone has a better workaround, put it on the table but this sounds better than nothing.

This problem of no heirs probably won't kick in until well into the game, if at all, but it's something to bear in mind.

[Mount Suribachi]

It seems in VI that all the kings are on Viagra. My kings have been churning out one sprog after another. Other people have commented on this too. I'm a bit harsh tho on this issue tho, if you die, you die. Game over. My Mercian dynasty thread lasted 2 kings and that was that as far as I was concerned.

Still, I can't wait for Seljuks writeup

[KukriKhan]

Aw shucks, guys. Just playing my little role here at the.Org...but thanks for the sentiments.

I've been following the age 56 bug issue also, and saw Brutal_DLX's suggestion. After some thought, it is clear to me that using the .unfreeze. cheat does nothing to enhance or degrade the current Khalipha's reign, but DOES ensure the continuity of the campaign - just the sort of insurance policy we need in this shared-campaign environment.

Therefore, rather than suggest its use, I think we should require it.

So, unless someone objects in the next 24 hours (comments from all are welcomed, of course):

NEW RULE:

In the first year of your reign, you (the new Khalipha) MUST type .unfreeze. to auto-generate an heir, so that the campaign may continue, whatever the outcome of your reign.

I'll add that blurb to the instructions I send with the saveGame files.

[econ21]

Kukrikhan: I agree with the new rule. People can do what they like in solo play but here the show must go on

[Mount Suribachi]

I accept the request of our most humble, most gracious, most great leader, the Kahn Kukri. However, do we still need to do this even if the new ruler comes to throne with (autogenerated) heirs in place?

Your humble servant

Mount Suribachi



Also.

Following Cazbols outstanding account of his reign (in 1.1 thread), I feel that perhaps we should look to give our Kaliphs names that will endure throughout eternity such as

Richard the Lionheart
Edward Longshanks, Hammer of the Scots
Constantine the Great
Julian the Apostate
Basil the Bulgar Slayer (my personal fave, nothing personal against Bulgarians, I just think it’s a great name for a Roman Emporer).

Added to that list is now

“Ismael the Retard”

I think we should all try and do this after each Kaliphs reign, using either their V&Vs – Yusuf the charitable, Yusuf the mad etc - or some particular feature of their reign – Yusuf the Great, Yusuf the Rich etc. Maybe even convert some of them to Arabic names? SeljukSinan, Balamir, Kanuni may be able to help us there. Any others that may speak Arabic?

[Shahed]

I think the rule is a good idea.

I can't speak Arabic though, but I can do some basic translation and could create names with help from work collegues and friends.

Kanuni & Balamir are Turkish, and I suspect that they do not speak Arabic either.

Faisal on the other hand is Arab, so I reckon he'd be the best to make up some names in Arabic. He already gave us some really good info on Arab units in Medieval times.

EDIT: have not seen him for a while though.

[Mount Suribachi]

I wasn't sure if Turks spoke Arabic or not.