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    Centurion : Total War

    The Birth of an Empire

    Estimated Finishing Times
    Re-Designed Campaign Map - FINISHED (This is excluding any new regions further into Africa of the Middle East been added).
    Research-Always on-going.
    Factions-Confirmed Factions already decided.
    Units-Will take the most time.
    Buildings-These shall be finished BEFORE the units.
    Other-Regular reports will fill you in on these.
    Release Date?-November is a very reliable prediction, October is still a posibility.

    Centurion : Total War?

    Yes, the MOD is no longer called Rome - The Path to the Dark Age, the MOD will not be reaching the time of the Roman collapse, instead it focuses on the time period of the rise of the Roman Empire. Look forward to fighting with the Macedonians, Dacians, Carthage, Armenia and numerous other powers, Rome may be powerful but its not all powerful, their dominance is far from assured making the campaign have alot more choice as far as factions go. I decided to change the name to Centurion Total War for the simple reason that, CTW is shorter than Rome-TPTTDA and it has Total War in the title, a addition that describes my intention with the MOD, we aren't going to have Romans running over everyone with ease, we are going to have a balanced Europe where, quite literally anything can happen, that means your Europe may be dominated by the Armenians or even the Germanians Each faction will hopefully have a different feel when you play as them, obviously some will be similar, for example the Macedonians and the Greeks (or Hellenes) will hav a slightly similar feel and each of the Roman factions will be similar obviously because, essentially, they are Romans and have a very similar army.

    The Factions
    Here is a list of the factions you can expect to play as in the MOD, let me say this now, not all may appear in the first release but I will obviously tell you which are going to appear when it is actually released. Rest assured however, these factions will eventually all be in the MOD.

    Romans
    House of Julii
    House of Brutii
    House of Scipio
    The Senate and the People of Rome

    Other
    The Macedonians
    The Egyptians
    The Seleucid Empire
    The Carthaginians
    The Parthians
    The Kingdom of Pontus
    The Gallic
    The Germanians
    The Britons
    The Armenians
    The Dacians
    The Illyrians
    The Scythians
    The Greeks

    These I must stress are the confirmed factions that will appear in the MOD, this is 18 factions which will have to do for now, but don't think that is it, its is likely that after more research I shall begin to add more factions in, lets not forget there is the FREE_## factions too meaning, I can do many more than in MTW.

    Units

    Ah, this is where the great community of the Org comes in This is the area in which I will very desperately need your help if you'd like to see this MOD in the next century. I can find out about some units, but lets be realistic here, do you want a MOD where each faction has about 4 units each while the Romans have masses because, that I what will happen if I go alone here. My knowledge of the make up of the armies on offer aren't great, the Romans will be amazingly easy to make units for simply because, we have alot of information on their army, I know about the Triarii and so on, but as for the Armenians and so on, my knowledge is limited. If anyone would like to come forward to help with teh units, your help will be greatly appreciated, I'm not asking you to edit the BIF's, just simply give me some names and a description, this will aid the MOD greatly and obviously speed up the finishing date.

    Building

    The buildings will be different for factions, barbaric factions such as the Gallic and the Germanians will get very low tech buildings and Romans will get much more advanced buildings. We are also talking about nice little added buildings too, Romans will have buildings like aquaducts to raise population happiness, colesseums to allow the building of Gladiators and so on. Barbarians will most likely have their own special buildings aside their basic also, though what these are is undecided so far. Building logos will, for the time being, have very little editting so aquaducts will not look like aquaducts, it will be a blank icon saying aquaduct on it. This is because, my graphics skills are not exactally top notch.

    In the case of the Romans

    The Romans have, as you can see earlier on, been split up. They are no longer a big faction, they are a collection of factions. Why did I choose to do this? Well, it adds another obstacle to Roman expansion and dominance, one being, you've got the Senate barking orders at you and not allowing you to fight with other Romans as they are the Papacy. I think it adds more fun for playing as the Romans, it also stops a Roman horde pouring over Europe, the same kind of thing was implemented in the Patrician MOD earlier on, just this time there is alot more Roman factions, I believe KD used one Roman faction and the Senate, here you get three Roman factions, the same as in RTW, and the Senate. Makes thing more fun basically, thats the point. As for you been trapped and forced to attack other Romans, not so, you'll have boats allowing you access to mainland, attacking the other Romans will be an option, not forced action.

    Music

    Am I planning to change the music? Right no, the answer is a no. Rome will get Catholic, Eastern Factions will get Msulim and Barbarians will get the Viking music. I must stress, this is for now, I will try my best to give you some music to make it feel more Roman, but it will not be in the first release.

    Screenshots?

    Tommorrow I will be posting some screenshots of the finished Campaign Map, I think it looks like a Roman strategic map, the colours are the right kind and everything so, I like it. Battle screenshots won't be seen for a little while but I'll try and post screenshots as often as I can.

    Anything else

    Not that I cant think of, only, updates will be coming every day now when work as been done, a day where there is no updates mean either, I have had a day off or their isn't anything interesting enough for you to know about. Idea's are all welcome, please refrain from posting in the previous MOD, please use this one, Moderators can, if they like, delete the old post.

    Thank You
    Nagatsuka Shumi



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    Thank you11 you are a genius very good move to change the dates and the whole thing about the balance of power is excellent in patrician it was impossible to win as carthage All in all brilliant keep up the fine work
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    Man, sounds great, with all these Roman mods coming out Who need RTW...

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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]Man, sounds great, with all these Roman mods coming out Who need RTW...

    Thats the kinda thing you need to tell yourself
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    Thank you, though I would never call myself a genius .

    As for RTW, CTW isn't going to be better, it will simply fill the void before the release of RTW and quench your thirst for the Romans, but it is my intention to have it recognised as one of the best MOD's available .
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    I said I would post updates and here I am to post one right now.

    EVERY release version faction has been implemented and has a shield, campaign map peice shield and a castle flag. All that is missing from them is a unit line up and factions description, also buildings, but they all come along soon.

    I have implemented two new units using existing models, the Auxillary Cavalry, the Royal Unit for the Roman factions and the Armenian Cataphracts for the Armenian's, it isn't a royal unit though, below is a list of units I hope to have implemented into the MOD today, note this doesn't mean they are balanced, have new weapons or shields or anything, it just means they are in the game ready for all that to be done to them.

    Armenia
    Armenian Royal Bodyguard-Royal Unit

    Aegyptians
    Aegyptian Peltasts
    Aegyptian Archers
    Aegyptian Cleruch
    Aegyptian Javelinmen

    Britons
    Celtic Cavalry-Royal Unit

    Carthage
    Carthaginian Heavy Cavalry-Royal Unit
    Carthaginian Light Cavalry
    Carthaginian Pikemen
    Hispanic Heavy Cavalry-Requires provinces in Hispannia(Spain)
    Hispanic Light Cavalry-Requires provinces in Hispannia(Spain)

    Gallic
    Helvetii Light Cavalry-Royal Unit
    Gallic Axemen
    Chosen Axemen
    Gallic Berserkers

    Romans
    These are units for House of Brutii, Julii, Scipio and the Senate.
    Triarii
    Hastati
    Hadrians Guard-Requires Upper Briton and Caledonia
    Syrian Archers-Requires Upper or Lower Syria
    Praetorian Cohorts

    Macedonia and Greece
    Spartan Hopilites
    Agema Phalagnites

    So there you have it, those are the units that shall be implemented into the game today, none will be balanced or have new weapons and such for now, first job is getting them in there, second job is getting them working and third is balancing them and all the rest.

    As a special "treat" I have uploaded the low-res Campaign Map to my site for you to have a look at in .jpg format, release format is most likely going to be tga as they don't even go over 1MB in size then due tho the three way colour system. Here it is.

    Please wait if you can't view it, my computer is a bit slow today so it's taking a little while to upload the map jpeg.

    Just trying to think if there is anything else I need to add to this, and I don't think there is, only that if you have some unit idea's post them in a reply, both a name and a unit description please as it may be the case that I won't be able to write a description because I don't know about the unit or know enough to write much about. Also write what they look like so I can make them look proper in battle.
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    Ghaaaa
    Carthage
    Numidian Calvary
    Spanish Foot Soldiers
    Gaul Mercinaries
    carthage rarely relied on thier own soldiers except in the battle of Zama (shudders)
    They mostly had picked up groups of Gauls on his way to Italy, and trained many Spainish foot soldiers, and the Numidian Calvary the key to the battles that Hannibal won You need them
    Well I'm glad I got that out of my system



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    To true marshal trie to implement that but there really isnt any description for what they look like because they would usually take what they could find(battle of cannae was lost by romans due to some of the enemy legionneire ecuitment confusing them)
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    Numidian calvary were blacks on horses, light warriors armed with a round shield and spear, very good attack.
    Spanish Foot Soldiers are like the calvary armed with a Spanish sword and oval shield.
    Barbarians wear trousers and the usual
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    Yes but old sources state(livy) that the defeat at Cannae was probobly due to the fact that the black infantry wearing roman equitment and armour so the legions did not even know for the first bit that these men were even enemies. (From a fabulus book im reading called The Punic Wars by Adrian Goldsworthy)
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    Yes but old sources state(livy) that the defeat at Cannae was probobly due to the fact that the black infantry wearing roman equitment and armour so the legions did not even know for the first bit that these men were even enemies. (From a fabulus book im reading called The Punic Wars by Adrian Goldsworthy)
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    Yes but old sources state(livy) that the defeat at Cannae was probobly due to the fact that the black infantry wearing roman equitment and armour so the legions did not even know for the first bit that these men were even enemies. (From a fabulus book im reading called The Punic Wars by Adrian Goldsworthy)
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    Yes but old sources state(livy) that the defeat at Cannae was probobly due to the fact that the black infantry wearing roman equitment and armour so the legions did not even know for the first bit that these men were even enemies. (From a fabulus book im reading called The Punic Wars by Adrian Goldsworthy)
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    easy there skip hold back on the posting a bit :P

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    Nope guys,

    Paulus and Varro's oponents lobyes killed the day for the romans. Sometimes during campaigns roman generals espect that is rivals become in troubles to gain the day. True.


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    Ok, but can we please have Numidian calvary, they were used in all the major battles, from Trebia to Zama and before, thier sort of like hobilars, really fast, looks weak, is strong. Please can we at least have Numidian calvary for History Sake
    I'm sure in Punic Wars by Adrian Goldsworthy it must have said something about Numidian Cavalry.



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    I will be adding Numidian Cavalry to Carthages final unit list so I wouldn't worry, the last list I posted was simply a list of units I was adding in last night.

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    Thanks wheeew
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    What goodies will the greeks and macedonians get?

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    Currently I haven't researched the Greeks or Macedonians very much, figuring that information on them should be done later as Komninos' Hellenistic MOD was already quenching the thirst for Greek warfare.

    I cannot re-call their name but I was planning on putting in the Greek Boats with the long spike on the front and a painted face on it too.

    As for their units, so far I have given them the Spartan Hopilites and Agema Phalagnites, my lack of knowledge into Greek Armies is a hinderance.

    Luckily for all of you however I am ill today so I will be spending the next 7-8 hours working on the MOD as I'm not really feeling well enough to go out anywhere today so I shall just be working on the MOD. I will be on here for most of these hours so nows a good time to suggest units and so forth.
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    The trieme, bireme and quatrieme are the ships you are looking for.
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    Ya sorry about that dont know how I posted 3 times the same thing but ya Im not saying numidian cav wasnt used at all. Sorry for the confusion but rest assured Ive confused myself alot more than I did you.
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    Its ok
    I was wondering about Elephants, should we try and create, or waste of time. I was thinking we could use AoE elephants for deadpage, but I think it may get freaky.
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    I think that could come in another versian stick with this first.
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    Sorry to say but, there will be no Elephants or Chariots unless someone with animation skills comes along and offers to make some, I myself cannot make new unit animations so, unless someone volunteers, there wont be any War Elephants. Sorry.
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    Its ok, but you could as LOS or DJ for some help or someone else with the skills
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    I won't be asking anyone yet, I'd prefer to get the MOD released first off before even beginning to approach a unit animator, atleast then they can see exactally what the MOD is like and whether its worth the tiem consuming process of making new units.

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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]As for RTW, CTW isn't going to be better, it will simply fill the void before the release of RTW and quench your thirst for the Romans, but it is my intention to have it recognised as one of the best MOD's available .
    I never really said that CTW is going to be better, I just said...
    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]Man, sounds great, with all these Roman mods coming out Who need RTW...
    but, still looking forward to it.

    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]Thats the kinda thing you need to tell yourself
    DAMN Sorry


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    Just 2 things Nag Is this for VI or no if so is it going to be an expansion?
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    The mod is for Viking Invasion and it wipes over the game so you won't be able to play the normal campaign, sorry but thats just how it's going to have to be, you can always copy your VI folder into your program files and give it a new name like I have done to play MOD's like this.
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