Wars of the Roses Expansion

[Duke John]

I'm beginning to doubt that R:TW will be shipped with all the modding tools that are needed to mod WotR into that engine. So in the meantime are any fans of these wars interested in playing some historical battles?

These battles are not about playing the game but about replaying history with some freedom for alternate ending. So I'm not looking for battles with tactics based on how the game works but for realistic battles. This may result in more boring games as you shouldn't use some skirmishing and flanking tactics, but I think it will be fun enough.
Army compositions will be mostly set before the game happens and are known to both sides. I will provide a map plus historical background (commanders, used tactics, etc) and each team can and should discuss their tactics beforehand.

The first battle will be Towton. I already have a pretty nice battlemap for it plus there were some interesting events in the battle: an ambush and part of the Yorkist army arriving at a later time. It will be a press for the Yorkists to defend themselves against the Lancastrians before their ally arrives.

You don't need to a MP expert. If you are a civil, mature, "historian" who loves to replay a WotR battle and is able to move his army in adequate manner then I am happy to include. It will be 3vs3 battles so I am looking for at least 5 more players (if more then we can play muliple battles). Nigel, declare4, KyodaiSteeleye, BKB, ShadesWolf are you interested?

More details will follow later on.
DJ

[The Blind King of Bohemia]

I have never played multiplayer before but it sounds a good laugh, i'm up for it

[Duke John]

No problem, although it's good to test beforehand just to make sure that your computer is able to handle it. MP is just like SP but with more intelligent allies, although that is sometimes questionable

But great BKB, looking forward to it! Let's hope that we can actually arrange a time.

To all: it's best if you are an European since then it will be easier to set a time to play.

[Duke John]

I've posted info about the Towton historical battle in the Jousting field: link.

If you are interested you can sign up there

[Duke John]

Moving on...

[metatron]

Someone should warn the fellow on the left...

[Nigel]

I found my VI CD broken in my CDROM player, so I don't think I'm able to play the game. If I can find a cheap copy somewhere I will buy it, but when...

Does this mean you did find a new copy of VI ?
I would hate to see the WotR mod die because of this.

And if the battle re-enactment is still taking place, I would still be interested.

[Duke John]

No, I still don't have a new copy of VI and I do not think I will ever buy one. Although I was really looking forward to the reenactment... perhaps in the future.

[JR-]

no campaign? :(

[Duke John]

No campaign for M:TW, but who knows what will come for R:TW.

But CBR helped me out and I can now play M:TW again (god I'm rusty). So all the persons who are interested in the Towton reenactment could react then we can play it soon. Although I must say that the balance isn't that well, so it is about fun and not about winning.

[The Blind King of Bohemia]

I might be up for that DJ should be a giggle

[Duke John]

Nigel, do you have R:TW? If so have a bit more patience please...

[Nigel]

Yes, I do have RTW.
And I am very much looking forward to what you are doing with it

But dont worry. Patience is my middle name

[KyodaiSteeleye]

i'm still up for Towton.

[CYGNUS]

i just found out about this mod today.

where can I download it? the old link does not work

[CYGNUS]

anybody have it?

[CYGNUS]

I guess that's a no

[metatron]

I don't. Sorry.

Have you tried PM'ing Duke John?

[Duke John]

I've got it lying around somewhere. I'll look it up and try uploading it.

[CYGNUS]

just let me know where to get it

thanks

[CYGNUS]

today is the 534th anniversary of the Battle of Tewkesbury, May 4, 1471.

how bout getting that mod so i can kick some yorkist arse

[CYGNUS]

[Duke John]

Sorry for the late upload. It probaby gets moved soon to 3D downloads, but here are the current links:
http://www.totalwar.org/Downloads/Mt...beta.part1.rar
http://www.totalwar.org/Downloads/Mt...beta.part2.rar
http://www.totalwar.org/Downloads/Mt...beta.part3.rar
http://www.totalwar.org/Downloads/Mt...beta.part4.rar

They are in RAR format which I believe you can freely on the internet. The mod was abandoned in beta format and only custom battles are playable. It's been a year or so since I last looked at it, so do not expect much support from me Have fun!

[CYGNUS]

tHANKS.

Question---Do I need all 4 parts?

When I extract all 4 of them, it seems the same files are in each part.

There are seval wotr_beta_v01.zip files in each part.

I think all I need is just one wotr_beta_v01.zip and one wotr_beta_v02.zip

can you confirm this?

[CYGNUS]

I got it to work.

Very nice infantry! Why abandon this MOD? Because RTW is out?

[Duke John]

Glad you like it I abandoned indeed because of R:TW. Well a bit premature perhaps, but making an unit took an entire week and I guessed (rightly) that with a true 3D-engine it was no longer the case. I saw in R:TW lots of opportunities and wanted it to take of advantage, time to move on, you know.

Now I do have 3 or 4 partly finished R:TW WotR models sitting on HD and perhaps there will come a time that I will release them. But at the moment I am already busy with Sengoku Jidai. If there were more WotR fanatics around who would also play MP battles then I might have decided otherwise, but since the WotR release didn't spark much attention in the Medieval crowd then I doubt that it will in a Rome crowd.

Have fun and crush those Lancastrian bastards!

[CYGNUS]

Please keep me posted on your WOTR models for RTW since I am a fanatic. I have the Osprey books you have on the WOTR plus a few other books on the Hundred Years War and the Norman Invasion. Turner is a great artist.

There must be a WOTR or medieval MOD for RTW. Your WOTR MOD came out just before RTW so that explains the drop in interest. It was not the MOD but the new improved game.

You don't have any custom battles/historical battles made for Towton, Twekesbury, or Bosworth do you? If you do I would like them.

Anyway, thanks for the MOD. Too bad I was a year late. I will continue to monitor this site to see if any medieval mods come out.

You may also want to monitor the progess of this game too: http://int.games.1c.ru/13_century/

[beauchamp21]

okay, i downloaded all of the four mod things posted above. How do i get them to work, im computerly-retarded in a sense. Also, do i havta download the demo at the beggining of the forum cause i cant find it anywhere.

Thanx 4 helpin whoever

[tutankamon]

Lovely mod any chance you mite make it assemble all of the downloads in an installer instead of having them scattered in pieces

[CYGNUS]

beauchamp21

You must have a Rar unzipper utility.

You only need one of the following: Part 1, Part 2 , or Part 3. They are the same from what I can tell. Pick one.

If you look at the folders within the parts (pick one), they match the folders in the MTW game folder.

For me to get it to work, I installed these folders over the existing folders in the MTW game directory.

Then I installed part 4 which appears to be a newer text file.

I was messing with this last night, and it appears the original game can still be played. You can only do custom battles with the WOTR files. Read the "readme" text file in the parts folder.