Want to play an MP campaign?

[ElmarkOFear]

Hey guys. I agree: STW is still the best of all the TW games. Simple, yet elegant in its concept. True to the Japanese ideal.

I am trying to gauge the interest in an online MP campaign using the same units/buildings and starting positions/provinces of the STW SP campaign.

I held something similar to this a couple times before. However, the campaign died due to the time it took for players to meet, set up a time to play the battles and to fight it and return the logfiles to me so I could update the website. I have figured out a way to play one and avoid this time-consuming wait for battles to be fought. However, it does eliminate some of the fun of playing a real MP campaign: Battles will be fought, AI vs AI, in custom battle mode. I can set up the battles, let the AI fight them, Take the stats from the logfile and then update the website the next night instead of having to wait one turn per week (If even that fast).

If you can still have fun not fighting the battles, but on a more strategic level, then this could work. Puzz (MizuYuuki), TosaInu, and a lot of the old Fearful Ways/Uglys played in one which I held and were having great fun (I think). Didn't you Puzz and Tosa? I believe we worked out most of the kinks and had a nice campaign going. Shame, everyone had a hard time setting up and fighting the battles.

Since the STW server is down, this method of fighting realtime battles would allow a campaign to still be played. You would not even have to have the game installed on your PC or even own the game for that matter. No worries about having the correct patch, when your enemy would be online, or even sending the logfiles/replays to the host. It would all be taken care of on my PC. Also, it would be a chance for the SP-only types and the MP-only types to finally compare themselves to each other.

If you are interested, let me know. If we can get one player for each faction, I will then see if I can find the rules and maps from the first couple campaigns. If not, I can redo it. I have an old EzBoard forum still around to use or we can use the ugli.com site or even use a combination of this forum for discussions

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Yeah! Do we pick our faction or is it random?

[ElmarkOFear]

Once we have a player for each faction. I will draw names and put you guys in order. From there the first pick will choose his faction and the last pick will have to take the faction that is left. OR If you guys want to talk amongst yourselves and choose which factions you want to play, that will be fine too.

Up to those involved: I am flexible as long as everyone agrees to who take what faction, before we start.

[TonkaToys]

Hi

in case you hadn't seen it, I've been trying to complete an online MP Campaign system that will take out most of the hard work from running such a thing.
Trouble is getting the time to work on it!

Check out my sig for more details.

[ElmarkOFear]

Hey Tonka that is great! I was gonna do it the old fashioned way, and use a spreadsheet to make the moves, then update each players private webpage with their moves. If you get it finished, let me know. Can it be converted to the STW campaign map easily?

Wish I had your talent! :)

[PaolinoPaperino]

If you allow ducks to join,
consider this one already enlisted

[Chimpyang]

I'll play, i'm not too bothered about which faction.

[UglyandHasty]

Count me in Elmo.

[ElmarkOFear]

So thus far we have:

UglyandHasty
Chimpyang
PaolinoPaperino
Sasaki Kojiro
TonkaToys
Tomcat
PFJ's
Little Grizzly

Just added the PFJ's and Little Grizzly. Will see if we can get some others involved. Need just a few more and I will work on setting up the rules and the campaign site.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

You might try the .com or some of the shogun clans forum.

[ElmarkOFear]

I will do that, but I wanted to give you guys a first shot at it, since you are dedicated STW players. :)

[TonkaToys]

Hey Tonka that is great! I was gonna do it the old fashioned way, and use a spreadsheet to make the moves, then update each players private webpage with their moves. If you get it finished, let me know. Can it be converted to the STW campaign map easily?

Cheers! There is no problem adapting it to any map or period. I'll let you know if it progresses. PS: don't have STW yet, I'll pop down the shops and see if I can find a copy, otherwise eBay here I come.

[Tomcat]

OK, I'm game. Been playing STW for a while and it is definitely still the best. Not played MP on-line before but as I see all battles will be fought by the AI don't think that matters.

Tomcat

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Cheers! There is no problem adapting it to any map or period. I'll let you know if it progresses. PS: don't have STW yet, I'll pop down the shops and see if I can find a copy, otherwise eBay here I come.

You don't need to own a copy. Still worth buying of course

[ElmarkOFear]

WElcome Tomcat and Tonka you are now on the list as well.

[Chimpyang]

actually can i just play a general who is moved to diff stacks and so on, i don't think i'll have enouh time to think out everything.

[ElmarkOFear]

You could form a team to play your faction and have them make moves when you don't have the time. But if you are really gonna be stretched for time, you probably should let someone else make the moves with you just helping him out as you can.

[PFJ_bejazuz]

three of us in the PFJ have STW & would be up for some MP shame :)

unf we haven't managed to figure out how to get it going

[PaolinoPaperino]

If u wanna just play online,
give a look at this tread m8:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...d=1#post598995

[PFJ_bejazuz]

interesting thread - i'll keep my eyes out for when theres a server hosting again

we've all 5quid WE editions from Amazon

[LittleGrizzly]

Elmo are there any places left ?

[UglyandHasty]

nice, now we will find patch of fur everwhere on the campaign map !

[ElmarkOFear]

Sure thing Grizz. :) Let me add your name up top.

[LittleGrizzly]

hehe maybe time to brush up on the old STW campiagn skills...

actually this has got me in the mood for one, i never managed the more difficult clans (imagawa, takeda and oda on expert)

looking forward to this already will be nice to play with/against real people also will make the diplomacy a lot more in depth, how about each player has a seperate forum for each other player ? (if this isnt to much work)

ohh and im guessing no special abilities right... ?

and stw or mi ?

edit: 10 people aren't there 7 clans ? or is this a different campign map ?

yes i talk to much.....

[ElmarkOFear]

We will need someone to play as the ronin warlords. Also, it would probably be a good idea for each faction to have at least two players playing it. They can dicuss strategies and if one has to quit/leave for awhile the second person can take over. Helps continuity. Besides its the discussions of strategy that make it so much fun and if you don't have a teammate, you will not have anybody to bounce ideas off of. :)

[LittleGrizzly]

ahh right that makes sense...

edit: the ronins need they're land split up a bit and a few buildings added my memory of campaign start isn't great but they don't have any buildings do they...

[Tomcat]

Elmark - any update on the status of the campaign and the likely timescales you are looking at please - just for planning purposes? Thanks.

Tomcat

[Puzz3D]

Elmark,

Yes. That multiplayer campaign was really good, and you did an outstanding job running it. We didn't finish it because MTW was released, and interest shifted to that game. However, I think we did get a good rule set out of it which actually was the objective at the time. The behind the sceens diplomacy between human players was really intriguing.

I have an idea which would allow you to keep the online battles in this multiplayer campaign. CBR and I will release a mod package for MTW online play which will include several mods of which one will be barocca's STWmod for MTW. STWmod already plays very much like original STW, and a few tweaks will be made to bring its gameplay even closer to it. So, you could use this to play the battles online using MTW. Additional map conversions for the provinces probably have to be done. I could work on that.

[CBR]

I dont know how this campaign is gonna work but... If there is interest in having different unitsizes to pick from that can be added easily. That way losses from earlier battles can be handled and a player can use more than 16 units in a battle by simply picking some larger units so overall number of men stays the same.

This is a mod that people have to download anyway so there is no need to limit ourselves as we can add things like that to make it more interesting. But that is up to what people wants. It can be added into a special MP campaign era just for battles like that.


CBR

[ElmarkOFear]

Let me finish the maps and the website. I figure I will have everything up and ready around the first couple weeks of November. Then we can begin.