Are there any Lone Wolf and Cub fans out there?

[Kurando]

Need I say more...?

[Shogun So]

Excellent movie. Great swordsmanship!

[Kurando]

It's kind of low-brow stuff, but for some reason I just love it! I have all the original series on VHS and DvD, but I think I like the U.S. compilation-release "Shogun Assassin" even better. -There's something about the bad dubbing an hackney dialogue that I just love!

You can actually get Shogun Assassin on DvD (widescreen), but it's only available in the European PAL-DvD format + it's a special order... *Drool* I'd do almost anything to get on DvD! I'll bet Towashima Masakaido has it...

The only Lone Wolf Film I haven't seen is "Lone Wolf Cop". It was made in 1991 + it is set in modern-times. I'm probably not missing much, but has anyone seen it + is it any good?

[Kurando]

Here's another quasi-samurai film I really like.

[solypsist]

I caught a LW&C movie a while back, it was in black and white. It was actually kind of silly, (a baby carriage with scyhtes in the wheels?!)
So I got out of it.

[hecose]

There is a comics serie based on this story. I have read the first few books of the Chinese (i.e. translated) version. It's quite interesting. But I did not buy them. I read them at a friend's place.

[Shogun So]

Haha

quote "(a baby carriage with scyhtes in the wheels?!)
So I got out of it."

How else are you supposed to keep those evil ninjas aways from your child?

The b&w is actually part of the films artistry. You should give it another try. Haha

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[katwomansz]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Shogun So:
The b&w is actually part of the films artistry.

I have all Six Lone Wolf and Cub Series and they are all in color. They also come with good liner notes to explain some of the older Japanese language and history references



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[Kurando]

I was thinking the same thing katwomansz...?

[Shogun So]

That's strange... Solypsist mentioned black and white and I recall the same thing about the movies... very strange indeed.. *ponders*

[TheRonin]

Ghost Dog! A very good movie with great insight not to mention extreeeeeeeeemly long quotes(good), Im doing this from memory: "The way of the samurai is found in death.. Meditation on an inevitable death should be performed daily, every day when ones body and mind are at peace, one should meditate on being ripped apart by arrows, rifles, spears and swords, being carried away by surgeing waves, being thrown into the mist of a great fire, being struck by lightning, being shaken to death by a great earth quake, falling from thousand foot cliffs, dieing of disease and commiting sepuku at the death of one's master, in every day without fail one should consider himself as dead... This is a substance in The way of the samurai"
Hagakur(sp?) The way of the samurai (great book by the way, I recomend it if you can find a place that sells it) The main character has a really good voice that sets you in the right mood for the movie, I recommend it to all.


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"Every sound shall end in silence, but the silence never dies."

Samuel Miller Hagman

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[Word-san]

I thought "Ghost Dog" blew.

I have read the Hagakure, and I felt that the film simply gave the venerable book lip service in the most superficial way possible, through quotes, but that it missed the point. I never believed that Dog was truly a samurai in mind and heart. Toshiro Mifune had more warrior spirit in his eyebrows than Forrest Whitaker does in his entire body. And Jim Jarmusch's script totally missed the naked emotion (even, at times, raw sentimentality) possessed by those living by the code, which would cause even the most hardened warriors to break into tears at a truly selfless display of honor.

Jim Jarmusch also ripped off a classic moment from Seijun Suzuki's brilliantly twisted and surreal "Branded to Kill," in which a butterfly lands on an assassin's rifle and ruins his shot (although at least Jarmusch acknowledges him in the credits). The killers in this film are so bound by code that it means life or death.

Now Itto Ogami is a man who has memorized the Hagakure word for word! He is ready to die at any second -- hell, even his five-year-old kid, Daigoro, is more of a samurai than Ghost Dog.



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[Idaho]

Kurando

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There's something about the bad dubbing an HACKNEY dialogue that I just love!
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I didn't realise they filmed it in North East London. How did it sound with people saying 'innit' at the end of each sentence?

[Word-san]

In addition to being a London borough, Hackney is also the name of a fine breed of harness horse.

So would "Mr. Ed" be considered to have Hackney dialogue?

[The Daimyo]

About the B&W Lone Wolf and Cub...

There is a Black and White Lone Wolf and Cub movie out there somewhere. I remember seeing it about 10 years ago or so. It's nearly impossible to find, but yes it does exist. I also noted that there seems to be 2 movies missing from my collection of 5 videos. There should be 7 I believe, due to the pictures on the back, and from what I once read, I believe there are 2 that were not reproduced in sufficient quantity when they did that last run.
Ghost Dog...Good Movie. Falls short in the "Samurai" action department, but it's true to spirit as far as I am concerned. I loved the way that they portrayed the mobsters as cartoon watching boobs.

I recently nabbed "The Hidden Fortress", "Samurai Assassin", and the last Yojiimbo movie ever made, "Incident at Blood Pass". All are very good movies, and if you can find them, get them.



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The Daimyo
Miaowara "Kakizaki" Tomokato
@http://www.planettotalwar.com

[Word-san]

Don't forget that the plot of "Star Wars" is lifted from "Hidden Fortress."

Have any of you guys checked out the outrageous "Razor" series?

The title of the first in the series is "Sword of Justice," which functions as a double entendre about his male member.

In addition to being a badass samurai, a kind of provincial cop, his second "sword" comes in handy as an interrogation tool for female prisoners.

These are wacky flicks with an over-the-top comic book style (and are guaranteed to offend women). The first film even has a funk soundtrack that gives it a true "Japsploitation" edge.

Kazuo Koike, who wrote the "Lone Wolf & Cub" manga and films, created the character of the Razor and wrote the first film in the series. Koike also wrote the "Shogun Assassin" film. He's my hero

[Jpf]

Does anyone here know how the Lone Wolf & Cub ends????

It's just I purchased the recently released UK-PAL 6-part collection and it ends with the video "White Heaven in Hell"....

The thing is, the story leaves the viewer with a VERY BIG feeling of "Well what the hell happens next "

I mean, what am I meant to do, imagine what happens in the final showdown

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[Kurando]

"White Heaven and Hell" is the last episode in the series, (other than the modern day Lone Wolf Cop thing).

I know what your are saying JPF, it's possible that they wanted to make more but never got around to it. Shit, now that I think of it, the comicbook series went on for something like 28 volumes and it never ended either!

Leave 'em wanting more I always say...

[Word-san]

Dark Horse comics is now publishing the orginal LW&C series, in the original order, in small, book format volumes lke they were originally published in Japan.

Apparently the first US version was printed out of order, and was of course unfinished. This time around, they have the authors' approval, and are doing it right, all the way to the end.

Volume one has nine stories, and costs only US$9.95. Grab it now!

[Nsan]

I saw Shogun Assassin years ago, and I loved it. I also own some of the orignal films, and I will get them on DVD when I can. The Hanzo 'The Razor' series is worth a view, as is the 'Sleepy eyes of death' series.

[Minagawa Daimon]

Its nice to see so many like the film LW&C, like most of you i am interested with samurai history and i feel that LW&C is one of the best Samurai films(series) and to try something new, Darkhorse is selling tradepaperbacks as was earlier posted, I originally have the part1 and 2 a month ago when i came to this specialty bookstore and i bought those 2 as soon as i saw them, and just now,im holding in my hands the 3rd part tittle "the flute of the fallen tiger" which i orderd online and i just got today, i havent read the 3rd part yet but i must sa the 2 paperback i currently have has one of the best storylines ive ever read it almost brings tears to my eyes when i read some of the stories in the book. A daisho sword up, must read to those who love this culture. Attu gyukai to all. Kantorai-shido!

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