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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South View Post
    hehe You assume two things. One that I'm being serious and that is probably my fault as we have never met and two that I support the bailout that is currently going on. I would argue that equal distribution of wealth is a pretty far left tenant but we all have our definitions. I would also argue as strict constitutionalist and libertarian that the govt (esp. the feds) should have as little power as possible. However due to the fact my beloved document was already very much chipped away long before I was born, from time to time I am forced to grit my teeth and accept a more pragmatic approach to government as much as I hate it. I see social democracy as the complete anti-thesis of Americas principles
    I had no way of knowing if you meant it seriously or tongue-in-cheek. I responded in a neutral manner. :)

    No one I have ever heard of supports the bailout, besides Wall Street spokespeople and Wall Street and banking representatives. No one. No Republicans, no Democrats. That doesn't change the fact that the people now needing the bailout and their political allies insisting we must, MUST, MUST HURRY AND PASS A BAILOUT PACKAGE NOW!, are the same right-wing conservative interests who have been an active part of the GOP and lobbied for deregulation and the continuance of banking deregulation for years. Which makes them hypocrites. And the entire justification for saying we "must" bail them out is a fear tactic, that if we DON'T, we face economic meltdown and the poor individual American workers will suffer. As if that is a concern to Wall Street and big banking executives who took their golden parachutes and now work as overpaid lobbyists for the companies they used to work for. Quote from Real Time, there are no foxhole atheists and there are no recession libertarians.

    I think totally equal distribution of all wealth is pretty far to the left, yes. I think though that a lot of right-wing ideologues categorize anything to the left of monpolistic deregulated free-market economic feudalism as "Socialist/Communist" insisting on full national ownership of all property, execution of dissidents and no disparity of income. This is because trying to paint something like our present system resulting from years of insisting that greed is good and that deregulation and free market will self-regulate and fix all ills is such an incredibly poorly conceived argument with such little bearing on real world truth that it requires the forcing of false choices in order to appear at all viable. Out of first world countries, we have one of the LARGEST disparties in distribution of wealth between very rich and very poor. So we are at the polar opposite extreme, closer to medieval Feudalism in terms of our economic distribution than most other first world countries. That's pathetic in the "richest nation on earth" that you have some people taking a one-time 300 million dollar goodbye gift leaving their job as CEO while you have other people working two jobs at minimum wage and not going to the doctor about that funny lump under their armpit because they know they can't afford to miss work or cancer treatments anyway. It's beyond pathetic, it's immoral. I think there is a LOT of middle ground between what we have now, and pure "Communism", and a lot of those models in the middle have worked very well for a lot of other countries and which we refuse to even consider out of some irrational idea that there is no middle ground, there's what we have or there's Leninism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander the Pretty Good View Post
    Hey American Conservatives!

    I've been having a little debate with a few friends in school - they claim that the US is not in fact the greatest country in the world. When I argue otherwise they (the pinkos) point to socialized Europe and how "everyone is happy there" (my paraphrasing). I need some ammunition against that.
    Strange that people living in puppet states don't understand the rules? You said, school...

    how provincially fashionable. Is that what they're calling it nowadays?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cmacq View Post
    Strange that people living in puppet states don't not understand the rules?
    You're one of those people who would be offended and angry at a foreigner calling Americans arrogant, aren't you? ;) Wonder where they get those ideas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koga No Goshi View Post
    You're one of those people who would be offended and angry at a foreigner calling Americans arrogant, aren't you? ;) Wonder where they get those ideas.

    Why do some people want to make the bad come out? Don’t make me send out the winged monkeys.

    By the way, Kongo...
    do you have a tail too???

    Because it looks like everyone is pulling on it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cmacq View Post
    Why do some people want to make the bad come out? Don’t make me sent out the winged monkeys.
    The relevant question would be, are flying monkeys overpowered compared to chariots? Because if so, I may demand a nerf. ;)
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    Juggies and a shooting range!?

    What do I have to do to prove my conservativeness?
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    Quote Originally Posted by woad&fangs View Post
    Juggies and a shooting range!?

    What do I have to do to prove my conservativeness?
    Calling people Communists seems to be a popular one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koga No Goshi View Post
    The relevant question would be, are flying monkeys overpowered compared to chariots? Because if so, I may demand a nerf. ;)
    Tell it to Nikko.
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    Commie get out.




















    also, PanzerJaeger, i swear that ive seen you on the Relicnews forums.... do you play Comapy of Heroes?
    Nope.. has someone stolen my nic..?

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    i should probably be in here.

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    I do not quite see why this thread needed to be dug up to make a response that is completely unrelated to its original purpose.

    Closed for the time being (and most likely to be sent back in time).

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