Historical Data for Bi??

**lars573** · 07-14-2005, 23:46

It's a priest unit. "Catholic" priests to be specific. They are functionally just like British/Gallic druid units. But with clubs instead of scyths.

Check it out http://www.totalwar.com/community/rtwbi.htm
Click 3D unit profiles.

**screwtype** · 07-14-2005, 23:58

Catholic priest units with clubs? ROFLMAO. That is ridiculous!

**screwtype** · 07-15-2005, 00:01

Oh heck, I just took a look at the unit, and it is soooo cheesy!

**Bromley** · 07-15-2005, 00:02

Just be glad it's not a +5 club of whatever.

**Mongoose** · 07-15-2005, 00:17

ROFLMAO!

This is a joke right???

i sure hope so...

The first thing i am going to do when i buy this game(IF i buy it) is remove those units.

**TheViciousChicken** · 07-15-2005, 00:27

LOL! Hahahahaha...that is a fun one! Does he cary the magical +5 holy club that does 5points os physical damage and 15 points of spiritual damage so that when he bangs you on the head with it you convert faster to catolicism? Hmm...

**Mongoose** · 07-15-2005, 00:34

LOL! Hahahahaha...that is a fun one! Does he cary the magical +5 holy club that does 5points os physical damage and 15 points of spiritual damage so that when he bangs you on the head with it you convert faster to catolicism? Hmm...

No, you're thinking of the +3 holy club. the +5 holy club does 30 points of spiritual damage and 7 points of physical damage.

Also, they run faster then cavalry and you can't attack them if the pope leaves the map.

**Coldfish** · 07-15-2005, 00:34

i don`t see any button "3D unit profiles"

**Krauser** · 07-15-2005, 00:42

Originally Posted by Coldfish

i don`t see any button "3D unit profiles"

http://www.totalwar.com/community/rome.htm
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I don't think it's so bad. I'm don't need it to be historically accurate. As long as it's fun. I just hope the improved AI is gonna be worth it.

**Coldfish** · 07-15-2005, 00:44

thanks...that`s more like it...

**Mongoose** · 07-15-2005, 00:54

How do you know the AI is going to be so much better? they said

The AI has improved generally

Well, hopefuly it has improved more then that quote would suggest....

**Zenicetus** · 07-15-2005, 01:04

This is reminding me a lot of "The Penguin".... remember the nun in the Blues Brothers movie, with the yardstick? Maybe that will be the next unit they profile.

**Orda Khan** · 07-15-2005, 01:06

Kensai........

This unit was not ridiculous?

........Orda

**Mongoose** · 07-15-2005, 01:12

It was totally ridiculous. and this is just as bad(if not worse)

**Wishazu** · 07-15-2005, 01:37

I agree with Krauser, i dont care what units they put in it as long as the ai is improved. Besides im sure the modders at RTR and EB will swiftly get to work on this expansion.

**Mongoose** · 07-15-2005, 01:39

It will take them months to sort this mess out.

just like it did with RTW...

**Afro Thunder** · 07-15-2005, 02:31

Originally Posted by Zenicetus

This is reminding me a lot of "The Penguin".... remember the nun in the Blues Brothers movie, with the yardstick? Maybe that will be the next unit they profile.

I think I can just imagine a "War Nuns" unit, they hit both friendly and enemy soldiers every time they curse or say the Lord's name in vain.

**lars573** · 07-15-2005, 03:23

Originally Posted by Wishazu

I agree with Krauser, i dont care what units they put in it as long as the ai is improved. Besides im sure the modders at RTR and EB will swiftly get to work on this expansion.

And I hope they stay as far away from it as possible. If their is one thing I hate it's realism mods. RTR more than any other.

**King of Atlantis** · 07-15-2005, 03:24

The one good thing is Bi looks like it will bring in some nice new models...

**King of Atlantis** · 07-15-2005, 03:28

As it is already obvious with the first new unit, Bi will not be historically accurate. Thus, I think we should start collecting historical data for the time period that could be given to intrested mods. Anybody else intrested...

These are the factions that need research..

Eastern Roman Empire
Western Roman Empire
Huns
Goths
Vandals
Saxons
Franks
Allemanni
Sarmatians
Sassanid Empire

Thats 10 playable of the twenty,

some others are break off's

romano- british
vistogoths
ostrogoths

Does anyone know any other factions that are in..

**Horatius** · 07-15-2005, 03:48

"but it’s your choice whether or not to revert to paganism in the hope that this will bring victory."

In my first game then I am going to try to ressurect the old ways.

I wonder if you are allowed to try to ressurect the Res Publica.

**Kekvit Irae** · 07-15-2005, 03:52

Originally Posted by mongoose

No, you're thinking of the +3 holy club. the +5 holy club does 30 points of spiritual damage and 7 points of physical damage.

Also, they run faster then cavalry and you can't attack them if the pope leaves the map.

I've got my Ogre Slaying Knife! It's got a +9 against ogres!

**King of Atlantis** · 07-15-2005, 03:54

Originally Posted by mongoose

No, you're thinking of the +3 holy club. the +5 holy club does 30 points of spiritual damage and 7 points of physical damage.

Also, they run faster then cavalry and you can't attack them if the pope leaves the map.

It does triple the damage to pagans though

**Mongoose** · 07-15-2005, 04:15

Lars573

No one is forcing you to download them(Not yet at least...)
EB will have much better gameplay the RTW. RTR also has better gameplay.

**King of Atlantis** · 07-15-2005, 04:18

Originally Posted by lars573

And I hope they stay as far away from it as possible. If their is one thing I hate it's realism mods. RTR more than any other.

why hate realism mods? Fantasy games are fun, but rome total war claims to be a historic strategy game, which it isnt. The realism mods are simply making rtw up th mtw standards.

**Mongoose** · 07-15-2005, 04:20

Yeah, vanilla sux0rz. RTR is fun and SPQR is the best

**lars573** · 07-15-2005, 05:30

Originally Posted by King of Atlantis

why hate realism mods? Fantasy games are fun, but rome total war claims to be a historic strategy game, which it isnt. The realism mods are simply making rtw up th mtw standards.

Experience they say is the best teacher. I tried one of MTW realism mods (med mod) and it left a very bad taste in my mouth. When I read all the description of RTR, SPQR, even EB, they all reaffimed my suspicions. Realism mods no matter how well intentioned are not and cannot be fun to play. That's all I can really say, without my mouth getting me in trouble.

**Wishazu** · 07-15-2005, 05:34

well surely its a bit stupid to throw them all in the same boat and say "see ya". your a bit narrow minded i think...

**lars573** · 07-15-2005, 06:07

Look at it this way, the same feeling that keeps you from enjoying vanilla RTW keeps me from enjoying a realism mod. And i'm not talking about the AI either.

**bubbanator** · 07-15-2005, 06:09

Realism mods are alright. I prefer to do minor changes like getting rid of the line formation and doing some minor unit rebalancing, changing starting armies, and things of that nature.

RTW is a perfectly good game without major modifications. A few tweaks makes it even better.

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