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    Clan genealogies made by Asterix and Kagemusha:

    Takeda Clan


    Nobutora (Nobutora) (Shingen) (Katsyori)
    (1493-1573) Shingen Yoshinobu Nobukatsu
    Nobutomo (1521-1573) (1536-1567) (1567-1582)
    (?-1534) Nobushige Nobuchika (Nobumasa)
    (1525-1561) (1541-1582) Masayori
    Nobukado Nobuyuki (?-1582)
    (1529-1582) (?-1564)
    Nobuzane Katsyori
    (?-1575) (1546-1582)
    Nobukore Nobumitsu
    (?-1571) (1553-1582)
    Nobutatsu Harukiyo
    (?-1582) (1557-1582)
    (Nobutomo) Yoshihisa
    Nobumoto (?-?)
    (?-1560) (Nobushige)
    Nobuyori
    (?-?)
    Nobytoyo
    (?-1582)
    Nobumasa
    (?-1575)
    (Nobuzane)
    Nobutoshi
    (?-?)
    (Nobutatsu)
    Nobunari
    (?-1582)
    Yamamoto Yamagata
    Kansuke Masakage--------------------Genshiro
    (?-?) (1524-1575) (?-1582)
    Obata
    Toramori---------------Masamori--------------------Kagenori
    (1505-1561) (1534-1582) (1570-1644)
    Sanada
    Yukitaka---------------------Nobutsuna
    1512-1574) (1537-1575)
    Masateru------------Nobumasa
    (?-1575) (?-?)
    Masayuki----------- Nobuyuki
    (1544-1608) (1566-1658)
    Nobutada------| Yukimura
    (1547-1632) | (1567-1615)
    | Nobukatsu
    | (?-1609)
    | Masachika
    | (1583-1632)
    |------Yukimasa
    (?-?)
    Nobukatsu
    (?-?)



    Uesugi Clan



    Tomooki------------Tomosada
    (1488-1537) (1525-1546)
    Noriyoshi-----------Norikatsu
    (?-?) (?-1575)
    Norimori
    (?-1579)
    Norimasa------------Kenshin------------Kagetora
    (1522-1579) (1530-1578) (1554-1579)
    Yoshiharu Kagekatsu
    (1553-1625) (1555-1623)
    Kagenobu----------Kageharu
    (?-1578) (?-?)
    Retainers
    Nagao
    Tamekage-----------Kagefusa
    (?-1536) (?-?)
    Harukage
    (?-1553)
    Masakage-----------Yoshikage
    (?-1564) (?-?)
    Kageyasu
    (?-1545)
    Kagenao
    (?-?)
    Amakasu
    Kagemoshi---------Kagetsugu
    (?-?) (?-?)
    Ayakawa
    Kionaga-------------Morinaga
    (?-?) (?-?)
    Honjo
    Fusanaga-----------Shigenaga-----------Yorinaga
    (?-?) (1539-1613) (?-?)
    Hidetsuna Yoshikatsu
    (?-?) (?-?)
    Nagafusa
    (?-?)
    Hisanaga
    (?-?)
    Irobe
    Norinaga----------Katsunaga------------Akinaga
    (?-?) (?-1569) (?-1587)
    Nagazane
    (?-1592)
    Kakizaki
    Toshiie-----------Kageie------------------Haruie
    (?-?) (?-1575) (?-1575)
    Noriie
    Usami (?-?)
    Sadamitsu-------Katsuyuki
    (1489-1564) (?-?)




    Hojo Clan




    Ujitsuna-------|-----Ujiasy-------------------Ujimasa--------------------------------------Ujinao
    (1487-1541) | (1515-1571) (1538-1590) (1562-1591)
    | ----Tsunashige--- --| Ujiteru Ujisada
    (1515-1587) | (1539-1590 ) (?-?)
    | Ujikuni Naoshige
    | (1541-1597) (?-?)
    | Ujinori----------------| Ujifusa
    | (1545-1600) | (?-?)
    | Ujitada |-----------------------Ujimori
    | (?-?) (?-?)
    | Ujimitsu
    | (?-?)
    |------Ujishige
    (1536-1578)
    Genan-------------Shinzaburo
    (1493-1589) (?-1561)
    Nagatoshi
    (?-1569)
    Ujitoki
    (?-1534)

    Retainers

    Kasahara
    Nobutame--------Yasukatsu--------------Kagemune
    (?-?) (?-1569) (1533-?)
    Terushige
    Shimizu (?-?)
    Yasuhide Inomata
    (1532-1591) Kujinori
    (?-1590)
    Matsuda
    Yorihide----------------Norihide
    (?-?) (?-1590)
    Yasusada
    (?-?)
    Daidoji
    Shigeoki----------------Masashige---------------------------------------Naoshige
    (?-?) (1533-1590) (?-?)
    Naotsugu
    (?-?)


    Asakura Clan



    Norikage----------Kagetoshi-----------Kagenao
    (1474-1555) (1505-1572) (?-?)
    Takakage---------Yoshikage Kagetake
    (1493-1546) (1533-1573) (?-1575)
    Kagetaka---------Kageakira
    (1495-1543) (1529-1574)
    Kagetsura
    (?-1570)
    Kagetaka
    (?-1570)
    Retainers
    Horie
    Kagezane--------Kagetada-------------Toshishige
    (?-?) (?-1576) (?-1576)
    Kawai
    Yoshimune
    (1521-1573)
    Makara
    Naotaka--------------Naomoto
    (?-1570) (?-1570)
    Meaba
    Yoshitsugu
    (1514-1574)

    Amako Clan



    Tsunehisa----Masahisa------------Haruhisa----------Tomohisa
    (1458-1541) (?-1518) (1514-1562) (?-?)
    Kunihisa------------Masahisa------| Yoshihisa
    (1492-1554) (?-1554) | (1536-1610)
    Okihisa Toyohisa | Hidehisa
    (1497-1534) (?-1546) | (?-?)
    Hisayuki------Akiyuki |----Katsuhisa
    (?-1541) (?-?) (1553-1578)
    Retainers
    Kamei
    Hidetsuna---------Korenori
    (?-?) (1557-1612)
    Kawazoe
    Hisamori
    (?-1567)
    Tachihara
    Hisatsuna
    (1531-1613)
    Ushio
    Yukikiyo
    (?-?)
    Uyama
    Hisahide----------Hisakane
    (?-?) (?-1566)
    Yamanaka
    Mitsuyuki--------Yukimori
    (1519-1546) (1545-1578)
    Honjo
    Tsunemitsu
    (?-1562)
    Megata
    Yukinobu
    (?-1569)
    Wachi
    Masaharu
    (?-1568)
    Yokomichi
    Hyogonosuke
    (?-1570)
    Yonehara
    Heinaizaemon-----Tsunahiro
    (?-?) (?-1613)




    Miyoshi

    (Special thanks to www.samurai-archives.com)

    Clan Hosokawa



    Takakuni Mototsune
    (?-1531) (?-?)

    Ujitsuna Harumoto
    (?-1561) (1519-1563)

    Fujitaka Nobyoshi
    (1534-1610) (?-1615)

    Tadaoki Okimoto Yukitaka Takayuki Masaoki
    (1564-1645) (?-1618) (?-?) (?-?) (1562-1618)

    Tadataka Tadatoshi Okiaki Tatsutaka
    (1580-1646) (1586-1641) (?-1615) (?-?)




    Clan Satomi



    Sanetaka
    (1483-1533)

    Yoshitaka Yoshitoyo
    (1512-1574) (1513-1534)

    Yoshihiro Yoshiyori Takamoto Takamasa Tadahiro
    (1529-1578) (1542-1587) (?-?) (?-?) (?-?)

    Yoshiyasu
    (1573-1604)

    Tadayoshi
    (1593-1622)

    Mogami




    Clan Date

    Tanemune
    (1488-1565)

    Harumune Yoshinori Sanemoto Munemoto Harutane Tsunamune
    (1519-1577) (?-?) (1527-1587) (?-?) (?-?) (?-?)

    Terumune Masakage Akimitsu Naomune
    (1543-1585) (1549-1607) (1550-1622) (?-?)

    Masamune Shigezane Munetoshi Yoshimune
    (1567-1636) (1568-1646)(?-?) (?-?)

    Hidemune Tadamune Munekiyo Munetsuna Munetaka Munekatsu
    (?-?) (?-?) (?-?) (?-?) (?-?) (?-?)

    Chosokabe





    Clan Asai



    Naomasa Sukemasa
    (?-?) (1495-1546)

    Akimasa Masahiro Hisamasa
    (?-?) (?-?) (1524-1573)

    Nagamasa Masamoto Inori
    (1545-1573) (?-?) (?-1573)

    Manjumaru
    (?-1573)

    Clan Urakami& Ukita




    Urakami Ukita
    Muramune Yoshiie
    (?-1524) (?-1534)

    Urakami Urakami Ukita Ukita
    Munekage Masamune Okiie Shiro
    (?-?) (?-1564) (?-1536) (?-1523)

    Ukita Ukita Ukita
    Naoie Haruie Tadaie
    (1529-1582) (?-?) (?-1609)

    Ukita Ukita
    Hideie Narimasa
    (1572-1662) (?-1616)

    Ukita
    Hidetaka
    (?-?)

    The reason i combined Urakami and Ukita family trees,was that Ukita were former Vassals of Urakami and soon took control of the Urakami domain.

    Clan Ouchi



    Yoshioki Takahiro
    (1477-1528) (?-?)

    Yoshitaka Hirooki Teruhiro
    (1507-1551) (?-?) (?-1569)

    Yoshihiro
    (1545-1551)

    Clan Oda



    Nobusada
    (?-?)

    Nobuhide Nobuyasu Nobumitsu Nobutsugu
    (1510-1551) (?-1542) (?-1555) (?-1574)

    Nobuhiro Nobunaga Nobuyuki Nobukane Nobuharu Hidetaka Nobutoki
    (?-1574) (1534-1582) (?-1558) (1543-1614) (1549-1570) (?-1555) (?-1556)

    Nobuoki Nobuteru Nobumasu Nobutoshi Nobutada Nobuo Nobutaka
    (?-1570) (?-?) (1548-1622) (?-1582) (1557-1582) (1558-1630)(1558-1583)

    Hidekatsu Katsunaga Nobuhide Nobutaka Nobuyoshi Nobusada Nagatsugu
    (1567-1585) (?-1582) (?-?) (?-1602) (1573-1615) (1574-1624) (?-1600)

    Hidenobu Hidenori Hideo Nobuyoshi Takanaga Yoshio Nagao
    (1582-1602) (1581-1625) (1573-1610) (?-1626) (?-?) (?-?) (?-?)

    Great thanks for :http://samurai-archives.com/.
    Ja Mata Tosainu Sama.

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    Great stuff Helgi! Im going to start an internet resources thread for you m8!
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    Clan Asai


    Asai Naomasa
    Asai Naotane
    Asai Sukemasa (1495-1546) (son of Naotane) - very good general
    Asai Akimasa (son#1 of Sukemasa)
    Asai Masahiro (son#2 of Sukemasa)

    Asai Hisamasa (1524-1573) (son#3 of Sukemasa) competent enough administrator
    Asai Masamoto (son #2 of Hisamasa)
    Asai Nagamasa (1545 - 1573) (son #1 of Hisamasa)- excellent leader - good against odds too
    Asai Katamasa (alt-1)
    Asai Manjumaru (d.1573 (son of Nagamasa)

    Asai Inori d.1573
    Asai Yoshimasa
    Asai Majumaru
    Asai Tadatoshi
    Asai Manpukumaru (grandson of Hisamasa, but son of???)



    POSSIBLE ASAI (actual descendents of Hisamasa)
    (Saito clan)
    Tatsuoki 1548-1573

    (Oda clan)
    Hidekatsu b.1567

    (Tokugawa clan)
    Iemitsu
    Tadanaga
    Ietsuna
    Tsunashige 1644 1678
    Tsunayoshi
    Ienobu
    Ietsugu

    (Toyotomi clan)
    Hideyori b.1539

    (Maeda clan)
    Mitsutaka
    Toshiharu b.1618
    Toshitsugu

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    i have a different "tangent" of the Ukita family tree,

    this does intersect with yours, but then diverges again,

    may be helpful (i used your Tangent to flesh out my list)

    ojima Takanori (Founder)
    (decended from Miyaki family)
    ((Ukita Takanori))

    Ukita Muneie
    Ukita Munie (alt)
    Ukita Hisaie (son of Muneie)

    Ukita Yoshie d.1534 (son of hisaie)
    Ukita Yoshiie (alt)

    Ukita Okiie d.1536 (son of yoshie)


    Ukita Naoie 1530-1582 (son of Okiie)
    Hachirou Naoie (alt)

    Ukita Haruie (son of Okiie)
    Ukita Hauie (alt)

    Ukita Tadaie (son of Okiie)

    Ukita Hideie 1572-1655 (son of Naoie??)
    Ukita Hidiie (alt)
    Hachirou Hideie (alt)

    Ukita Motoie (artist) (G-grandson of Toshiie)

    Ukita Hidetaka (GG-grandson of Toshiie)

    Ukita Hachirou (alt of ??)


    need retainers?? allies??
    PM me
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    NOTE:- with all these lists (families, allies and retainers) they are not finalised,
    i still have resources that i am reading through
    FURTHER in all my lists the clan a character first appears in the histories working for, is the clan he is in.

    NOTE:- retainers and allies include mostly real characters, but some from "suspect" historical sources are included,
    "suspect historical sources" that means family legends, stories, letters and the like
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    Chosokabe

    this is an interesting one,
    you will note there are many ways to spell the name
    NOTE:- as with all my lists and (alt) name means also-known-as

    Chosokabe Kanetsugu
    Chosokabe Kunichika Lived 1504 to 1560 FEARLESS
    Chosokabe Motochika Lived 1538 to 1599 FEARLESS (son of kunichika)
    Chosokabe Kunai no sho (title)
    Chosokabe Motoshika (alt-2)
    Chosokabe Himewakako (nickname - means young princess)

    Chosokabe Chikayasu 1543-1593 (son of kunichika) (alt as kosokabe) a diplomat and soldier

    Chosokabe Chikauji (d.1592) (son of chikayasu) (alt as kosokabe)
    Chosokabe Sadachika (son of chikayasu) (alt as kosokabe)

    Chosokabe Chikasada 1541-1576 (son of kunichika) (alt as Kira...)
    Chosokabe Chikazane (son of Chikasada) (alt as Kira...)
    Chosokabe Chikamasu
    Chosokabe Nobuchika 1565-1587 (son of motochika)
    Chosokabe Yasaburo (alt)

    Chosokabe Chikakazu d.1587 (son of motochika)
    Chosokabe Chikatada d.1600
    Chosokabe Magojiro (alt)
    Chosokabe Yasutoyo

    Chosokabe Morichika Lived 1575 to 1615 (son of motochika) Great Leader
    Chosokabe Murichika (alt)
    Chosokabe Gunaishosuke (title)

    Chosokabe Moritaka d.1615
    Chosokabe Morinobu d.1615
    Chosokabe Moriyasu d.1615

    Chosokabe Chikatake d.1589
    Chosokabe Kuniyasu
    Chosokabe Chikazane

    Chosokabe Morishige (very late 1500's)




    (alt names of heirs)
    Kira Chikasada
    Kira Chikazane 1563-1588 (son of Chikasada) hot-tempered and combative
    Kira Chikazane d.1600 (?? maybe a cousin?)
    Shima Chikamasu
    Kagawa Chikakazu
    Tsuno Chikatada
    Tsuno Magojiro
    Yoshida Yasutoyo
    Tonami Chikatake


    Kosokabe Chikayasu 1543-1593
    Kousokabe Chikayasu

    Kosokabe Chikauji (d.1592) (son of chikayasu)
    Kousokabe Chikauji

    Kosokabe Sadachika (son of chikayasu)
    Kousokabe Sadachika

    Chyosokabe Kunichika
    Chyosokabe Nobuchika
    Chyosokabe Motochika
    Chyosokabe Morichika

    and as always,
    allies or retainers,
    pm me
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    Satomi clan

    again our lists intersect and then diverge,
    this is proving most illuminating


    Satomi Yoshishige (d.1202)
    Satomi Yoshitoshi (son of yoshishige)

    Satomi Shigeyoshi 1448-1505
    Satomi Yoshimichi 1480-1518 (son of shigeyoshi)
    Satomi Sanetaka 1483-1533 (son of shigeyoshi)

    Satomi Yoshitaka (1512-1574) (son of sanetaka)

    Satomi Yoshitoyo 1513-1534 (son of Yoshimichi)

    Satomi Yoshihiro 1529-1578 (son of yoshitaka)
    Satomi Yoshiyori 1542?-1587 (son of yoshitaka)
    Satomi Takamoto (son of yoshitaka)
    Satomi Takamasa (son of yoshitaka)
    Satomi Tadahiro (son of yoshitaka)

    Satomi Yoshiyasu 1573-1604 (son of yoshiyori)

    Satomi Tadayoshi (1593-1622) (son of yoshiyasu)

    Satomi Suemoto
    Satomi Yoshizane
    Satomi Yoshinari

    allies/retaineers - you know the drill
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    Mogami clan

    Shiba Kaneyori
    Shiba Kizaemon

    Shiba Iekane
    Mogami Kaneyori (son of Iekane)
    Mogami Yamagata (alt)

    Shiba Yorinao (son of Shiba Iekane - ?? possible)
    Tendo Yorinao (changed name)
    Tendo Yorinaga (son of Tendo Yorinao - ?? possible)
    Tendo Yorihisa (son of ??)

    Mogami Yoshimori (1521-1590)
    Mogami Yoshiakira 1546-1614 (son of yoshimori) - great warrior
    Mogami Yoshiaki (alt-1) - great leader
    Mogami Ukyodaibu (alt-2)
    Mogami Yoshikaira (alt-3)

    Mogami Yoshitoki (son of yoshimori)
    Mogami Yoshihia (son of yoshimori)
    Mogami Yoshihisa (alt)
    Mogami Yoshiyasu (son of yoshimori)


    Mogami Yoshiyasu (son of Yoshikiara)
    Mogami Iechika 1582-1617 (son of Yoshikiara)
    Mogami Suruga (alt)
    Mogami Yoshitada (son of Yoshikiara)

    Mogami Yoshitoshi (son of iechika)


    Mogami Yoshimitsu
    Mogami Kenichiro
    Mogami Hisao
    Mogami Takehito
    Mogami Yoshinobu
    Mogami Hirotaka


    the Tendo were Mogami retainers,
    ALSO this dude
    Nobesawa Mitsunobu 1544-1591

    and thats as far as i got with Mogami



    I am still sorting names for all the clans in my mod,
    (and will be doing so slowly for a while yet)
    the others i either have no further information on, or you seem to have a large enough list.

    I will, however, be happy to send you a list of everything when i finish, but it may be some time - like a couple of months at the least, going through these names is very tedious if i want to avoid duplication.
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    Thanks!About how we did our research it was made narrowing it to the people that were alive in 1524-1600. Now it seems possible that we will expand our timeline to 1615(to the end of Osaka Summer campaign).So i will go through yours and our genealogies to perfect the name pools.Thanks again Barocca.This will help us a lot.
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    lots of children who died very young were rarely mentioned at all,
    also the Japanese have the same habits as everyone else,
    naming children after ancestors,

    so you could easily use names from either side of your chosen period to represent those who died young and were never given a chance to make their mark in history.
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    Yes you are right.Also the cross adoptions will make hard to determine who to put in whos family tree.But the good thing is that we are just basicly starting with Historicall situation,then its the players job to start changing history.
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    In my amateur studies, the name evolutions make me a bit crazy.

    For example all below refer to the same person.

    Hiyoshimaru
    Tokachiro
    Kinoshita Hideyoshi
    Hashiba Hideyoshi
    Toyotomi Hideyoshi

    And Hideyoshi was a name he created himself. No family tree

    Somewhere I read that at least three names (different stages of life) was pretty much customary. Though I don’t remember where I read it.


    Some links you may find of interest (if you haven’t seen them already).

    http://areciboweb.50megs.com/fotw/flags/jp-kuni.html

    http://www.samurai-archives.com/warrior.html
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    Default Re: Clan Family trees

    To be honest with you, if you want a VERY good representation of some of the major clan's family trees from 1550-1600, check out Nobunaga's Ambition: Rise to Power, it has lifespans and information on over 600 figures from the time period.

    Also, in the Azai genealogy, the two sons of Nagamasa, Manpukumaru and Manjumaru, are just childhood names. Had they lived to see adulthood, they more probably than not would have names involving the "Masa" character.

    If anyone has any questions about anything in the period, feel free to contact me, I'm very interested in it, and am always looking up new information about it.

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