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    Hey guys,

    Which is your favourite faction?!
    Takeda all the way.

    I'm going back to STW a bit, cuz it's Christmas is approaching, and the music always makes me sentimental.
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    Hi Edyz,

    Good to see you in Sword Dojo and to hear you'll play a bit Shogun again!

    I'm more an Uesugi Person myself...

    I love to see arrows fly and I love to see my enemies die...

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    Good archers.

    Maybe a mod for STW will be good, with many new provinces and units.
    I wonder how good will the STW mod for RTW will be.....
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    I'm kinda waiting for that mod too...

    From what I've heard Stw itself is hard to mod... Ca should just make TW4 an STW2
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    Hello guys! My favourite faction in STW is Mori. Altough my favourite clan on Sengoku Jidai period is Hosokawa.
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    Hehe, Hosokawa.

    From the clans, I prefer the Masamune clan.
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    Historically I've always enjoyed the Oda clan. In S:TW I don't really have a favorite--all have different strengths, weaknesses, and challenges, so I like them all for different reasons.
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    In the game, I like the Oda clan for the same reasons I like HRE in MTW and WRE in BI - I like turtling, consolidating and building; it's fun having a sprawling vulnerable empire with lots of AI factions all gunning for you.

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    Simon,

    Looks like you love gameplay and hard stuff.

    Basically, I like Takeda a bit more. It's much much harder when it comes to battles....
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    Quote Originally Posted by TogakureOjonin
    Historically I've always enjoyed the Oda clan.
    Oh yes. Historically I like the Oda too.. but in game I'm more Uesugi
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    Shimazu.

    Mostly because of the cheap no-dachis with the honour bonus; they can really do some damage. Also, there is usually a horde to deal with at the end of the campaign.

    Is the Mongols an allowed answer to this question? the trouble is, it's just too easy with the Mongols, even on expert mode.
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    Mori it is 4 me:D

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    Hi Betou!! Any news on your connection?
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    Uesugi in game and out for me.

    I hate having multiple borders, I prefer to roll down from the north and maintain an even front. It can be a bit of a pain because you either need to sacrifice provinces early on or quickly wipe out the Hojo to give you that nice east-west line, but it is worth it. It is really great when you get Kenshin because he generally shows up either when I'm having a bit of trouble with the Hojo or trying to reclaim the provinces that I abandoned early on.
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    It is tough to say. I'm fond of Uesugi, Mori, and Shimazu and in that order. I prefer having a one front to worry about. I also like the Uesugi starting lands since they are easier to defend and I've done a lot of ambushing with them.
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    Uesugi. I am an archer fan and the Uesugi lands are very rich, though keeping on to all of them is difficult. Abandoning Hida is the best thing to do. Retreating from Shinano as well may seem cowardly, but Takeda and Imagawa always will try to take it, so you can let them squable about it and deal with them once you have overan the Hojo and built up an infrastructure. Once you are that point, victory is almost certain.

    Another disadvantage of Uesugi is late access to guns, but when you are rich guns are not that attractive.
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    yes man! Gonna order it this week:)

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    !!!!!!!!!!!! Good news!

    the return of AggonyBetou... sounds good Anyways I played a bit with an new member of your clan called 'AggonyLion'. And Katsuchiyo is trying to fix his comp so he can play stw again

    anyways when you get your connection... check Sos forum on aggony forumz... there's the info on the server
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    I like the Takeda best followed by the Oda. I like all the clans for the first couple turns but after the first 8 provinces or so they slow down. With the takeda and oda starting positions you have a large border for longer which is what makes the game interesting. As soon as I get an even front I lose interest in the game.

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    I just started playing STW but I already have a favorite: Shimazu. Mainly because I like the south more, there isnt much money to make. Only problem is that in the center I keep meeting the Hojo or Uesugi hordes.

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    As soon as I get an even front I lose interest in the game.

    I agree, for this reason Mori and Oda are my favourite Strategy-wise.

    But the Imagawa clan is great for a Ninja fix.

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    I haven't got a favourite faction yet, as I've just started playing Shogun.

    It's been interesting to read the opinions here. I'm currently playing Imagawa....getting used to units etc.

    All my assassination attempts using ninjas have failed......what a bummer....am I doing something wrong???????????????

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    You need to train up your Ninja on weak targets - start off on Emissaries passing through your own lands and then move on to low-level generals... I tend to find that low-level Rebel generals make the best targets...
    Keep your Ninja within your own provinces as much as possible - the more time they spend in an opponents lands, the more lkely they are to be caught by local security forces.
    Don't take chances with experienced Ninja. Only use them on useful targets e.g. an enemy general the turn before you attack his province. This is damaging to your enemy's morale.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wilbo
    Keep your Ninja within your own provinces as much as possible - the more time they spend in an opponents lands, the more lkely they are to be caught by local security forces.
    Don't take chances with experienced Ninja. Only use them on useful targets e.g. an enemy general the turn before you attack his province. This is damaging to your enemy's morale.
    If your ninja has to stray out of your own province make sure it is escorted by a few shinobi. This will cancel the effects of border towers and enemy shinobi or at least give them a better chance of not being caught.

    I also believe having friendly shinobi in the assasination province can improve the ninja's chance of success but im not sure this is fact? Can anyone confirm..? Obviously this is difficult to do with emisaries as they are usually moving around, but is possible. This is how i play Imagawa, by taking rich provinces and churning out ninja till my tech tree allows geisha.

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    Welcome Matrixman and ThijsP, enjoy Sword Dojo

    With the Imagawa I tend to play as I do with any clan... just slowly eat up all their regions. I never really been a real agents-guy.. probably the reason why I don't like the Imagawa.
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    I hate to admit this, but my favorite clan is actually the Hojo. [waits for everyone to finish throwing things at him]

    I know, I know; I realize the Hojo are are just a *wee* bit overpowered (and yes, I do have a talent for understatement). But they're also in a very interesting strategic position, which can sometimes lead you to make some rather unorthodox decisions.

    Do you try and take out the Uesugi right away (which is somewhat difficult given most of their lands are well-suited to defensive battles), or do you first build up your forces and then attack (and risk letting the Uesugi tech up too much in the meantime)? Do you go after the Takeda's eastern provinces, or do you just park you army in your rich western province (I forget the name) and let them waste their men trying to force their way across the river? When do you decide to take Shinano, and how long do you risk keeping your alliance with Imagawa before you have to break it? And on and on....

    Also, as a player who definitely likes to turtle and am somewhat more defensive-minded, I like that my castles are cheaper for me to build as well.
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    I know, I know; I realize the Hojo are are just a *wee* bit overpowered (and yes, I do have a talent for understatement). But they're also in a very interesting strategic position, which can sometimes lead you to make some rather unorthodox decisions.

    Do you try and take out the Uesugi right away (which is somewhat difficult given most of their lands are well-suited to defensive battles), or do you first build up your forces and then attack (and risk letting the Uesugi tech up too much in the meantime)? Do you go after the Takeda's eastern provinces, or do you just park you army in your rich western province (I forget the name) and let them waste their men trying to force their way across the river? When do you decide to take Shinano, and how long do you risk keeping your alliance with Imagawa before you have to break it? And on and on....

    Also, as a player who definitely likes to turtle and am somewhat more defensive-minded, I like that my castles are cheaper for me to build as well
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
    I wasn't finished throwing things...

    [Martok peeks around the corner, only to get hit in the face with a golf ball] Ow!


    Yeah, I know I suck for liking the Hojo, but I can't help it. Uesugi is somewhat enjoyable, except that they're usually too easy (even for me). The only other clans I really like are Oda and Imagawa, as they provide a pretty good balance of being challenging without being overly difficult.

    Shimazu doesn't have to worry too much about being attacked, but that's because their lands are so poor. Mori's lands are spread out so you're hard-pressed to defend it all--even if you've sacrificed a province or two to shorten your borders. Takeda actually isn't too bad, but I just don't like them. I only play Takeda when I feel like being a bastard--they're almost always a thorn in my side, no matter which clan I'm playing as. (It would be like playing the Sicilians in Medieval.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by arcade81
    If your ninja has to stray out of your own province make sure it is escorted by a few shinobi. This will cancel the effects of border towers and enemy shinobi or at least give them a better chance of not being caught.

    I also believe having friendly shinobi in the assasination province can improve the ninja's chance of success but im not sure this is fact? Can anyone confirm..? Obviously this is difficult to do with emisaries as they are usually moving around, but is possible. This is how i play Imagawa, by taking rich provinces and churning out ninja till my tech tree allows geisha.
    Thanks for the advice about use of ninjas, you too Wilbo.

    Interesting point about the shinobi.....it'll be interesting to see if anyone else posts any opinions about it.

    Thanks for the welcome too, Drisos.

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    No problem - there's a lot of experience around to help with any queries.
    It's always great to have new Taisho enjoying the game :D

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