eastern european factions

[Tristrem]

hi guys , i've been playing for quite a while, but a sort of noobish question to ask. I enjoy playing eastern european factions, like poland and hungary, and wonder in which mod they get the most love, especially poland. i want to start a new campain, but vanilla is just isn't a challenge to me anymore
thanks

[Csargo]

Well I know that XL Mod adds a couple of more factions in Baltic and Russia.

[cegorach]

Pike and Musket - the total conversion mod placed between 1480 and 1700

Unit lists for some eastern factions:

SWEDEN
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general - major faction (late) , centralised administration, absolute power,

army - NATIONAL,

heroes - SEVERAL,

unique structures - Utskrivning->Indelningsverket->Nyare indelningsverket,

units:

THE AGE OF EXPLORATION

Dalkarlar

Landsryttare

Kungliga Majestäts Drabanter

Swedish Militia

Saamelaiset heimosoturit (Finland)

--from 1572-> Hakkapeliitta (Finland)

--from 1572-> Pikenerare

--from 1572-> Musketerare

--from 1572-> Latta ryttare

--from 1572-> Kommanderade musketörer

--from 1572-> Dragoner

--from 1648-> Kungliga Maj:ts garde och livregemente

--from 1648-> Grenadiers



THE RELIGIOUS TURMOIL

Svarta Ryttarna

Landsryttare

Kungliga Majestäts Drabanter

Djurskyttar

Hakkapeliitta (Finland)

Pikenerare

Musketerare

Latta ryttare

Dragoner

Kommanderade musketörer

--from 1648-> Kungliga Maj:ts garde och livregemente

Arkebusiere

--from 1648-> Grenadiers

Courland Reiters (Estonia & Livonia)

Pikeniere

Musketiere



THE SUN KING'S AMBITION

Karolinska Ryttare

Karolinskt Infanteri - pikemen

Karolinskt Infanteri - line infantry

Karolinska Livgardet

Hiihto soturi (Finland)

Hakkapeliitta (Finland)

Kungliga Maj:ts garde och livregemente

Pikenerare

Musketerare

Latta ryttare

Dragoner

Grenadiers


*unique* - access to german units during Religious Turmoil, can recruit skii troopers during the late campaign.

LIVONIAN CONFEDERACY ( ONLY AGE OF EXPLORATION)
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general - minor faction, german faction,

army - MERCENARY,

heroes - NONE,

unique structures - NONE,

units:

THE AGE OF EXPLORATION

Knights (B)

Livonian Lancers

Knechtsspissen

--from 1572-> Pikeniere

--from 1572-> Musketiere



*unique* - can call for National Levy which works like crusade.




HUNGARY
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general - minor faction, democracy,

army - NATIONAL,

heroes - NONE,

unique structures - balcan stronghold, sych,

units:

THE AGE OF EXPLORATION

Lagator ( Bulgaria and Serbia)

Huszárok

--from 1572-> Hajdú puskások

--from 1572-> Hrvati (Croatia)

--from 1572-> Vozy

--from 1572-> Uskoci (Croatia, Serbia)

Wagon Infantry

Rac

--from 1572-> Lovas hajdúk

Curteni (Wallachia)

Strajeri (Moldavia)

Razesi (Moldavia)

--from 1572-> Cossacks

--from 1572-> Zaporozhye




THE RELIGIOUS TURMOIL

Kék drabantok

Gyalogszékelyek

Huszárok

Hrvati (Croatia)

Haramija (Croatia, Serbia)

Uskoci (Croatia, Serbia)

Wagon Infantry

--from 1648-> Panduks (Croatia, Serbia)

Lovas hajdúk

Curteni (Wallachia)

Strajeri (Moldavia)

Razesi (Moldavia)

Martolos (Greece)

Hajdú puskások




THE SUN KING'S AMBITION

Kék drabantok

Gyalogszékelyek

Hrvati (Croatia)

Pandur

Calarisi (Wallachia)

Rosiori (Wallachia)

Panduks (Croatia, Serbia)

Boieri (Moldavia)

Huszárok

Lovas hajdúk

Martolos (Greece)

Hajdú puskások



*UNique* - has access to warwagons.

MOLDAVIA/WALLACHIA ( NO IN SUN KING'S AMBITION)
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general - minor faction,

army - NATIONAL,

heroes - FEW,

unique structures - Oastea Mica-> Oastea Mare; sych,

units:

THE AGE OF EXPLORATION

Boieri (B) (Carpathia, Moldavia)

Curteni (Wallachia)

Strajeri (Moldavia)

Razesi (Moldavia)

Rac

Munteni

Lagator ( Bulgaria and Serbia)

--from 1572-> Vozy

--from 1572-> Hrvati (Croatia)

--from 1572-> Uskoci (Croatia, Serbia)

--from 1572-> Ukrainian Peasants

--from 1572-> Lovas hajdúk (Carpathia, Hungary)

--from 1572-> Hajdú puskások

--from 1572-> Cossacks

--from 1572-> Zaporozhye




THE RELIGIOUS TURMOIL

Boieri (B) (Carpathia, Moldavia)

Gyalogszékelyek (Carpathia)

Dorobanti (Moldavia)

Vanatori (Wallachia)

Hrvati (Croatia)

Haramija (Croatia, Serbia)

Uskoci (Croatia, Serbia)

Ukrainian Peasants

Dzhura

--from 1648-> Panduks (Croatia, Serbia)

Lovas hajdúk (Carpathia, Hungary)

Curteni (Wallachia)

Strajeri (Moldavia)

Razesi (Moldavia)

Martolos (Greece)

Hajdú puskások

Cossacks

Zaporozhye


POLAND
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general - major power, democracy,

army - NATIONAL,

heroes - DOZENS,

unique structures - sejm, sejmik, Obrona potoczna i kwarciani->Reformy Batorego->Reformy Wladyslawa IV i Koniecpolskiego->Reformy Sobieskiego ;sych, vassal principality, german petty state(high), hadziacz union (late),

units:

THE AGE OF EXPLORATION

Tatarzy

Strzelcy

--from 1572-> Piechota Wybraniecka

--from 1572-> Muszkieterzy

--from 1572-> Piechota Polska

--from 1572-> Pikinierzy

--from 1572-> Husaria

--from 1572-> Lisowczycy

--from 1572-> Petyhorcy

--from 1572-> Kozacy

--from 1572-> Dragoni

--from 1648-> Pancerni

--from 1648-> Wolosi

--from 1572-> Vozy

Wagon Infantry

Rac

--from 1572-> Lovas hajdúk (Carpathia, Hungary)

Curteni (Wallachia)

Strajeri (Moldavia)

Razesi (Moldavia)

--from 1572-> Hajdú puskások

--from 1572-> Zaporozhye




THE RELIGIOUS TURMOIL

Tatarzy

Piechota Wybraniecka

Piechota Polska

Muszkieterzy

Pikinierzy

Lisowczycy

Husaria

Petyhorcy

Kozacy

Rajtarzy

Dragoni

--from 1648-> Pancerni

--from 1648-> Wolosi

Arkebusiere

Courland Reiters (Estonia & Livonia)

Wagon Infantry

Gyalogszékelyek (Carpathia)

Lovas hajdúk (Carpathia, Hungary)

Curteni (Wallachia)

Strajeri (Moldavia)

Razesi (Moldavia)

Hajdú puskások

Zaporozhye




THE SUN KING'S AMBITION

Tatarzy

Gwardia Piesza - musketeers

Gwardia Piesza - pikemen

Muszkieterzy - different than in earlier periods

Pikinierzy - different than in earlier periods

Piechota Polska

Husaria

Litewska Husaria

Petyhorcy - different than in earlier campaigns

Kozacy

Pancerni

Wolosi

Dragoni

Rajtarzy - different than in earlier campaigns

Fuisilliers

Rosiori (Wallachia)

Czeremisi (Volhynia & Volga-Bulgaria)

Dzhura

Hajdú puskások

Cossacks

Zaporozhye


*unique* - one of the most diverse armies in the game, can call for National Levy which works like crusade, has access to warwagons, can use unique fake unit specially designed for multiplayer.


THE OTTOMAN EMPIRE
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general - superpower (major power in early),

army - NATIONAL,

heroes - SEVERAL,

unique structures - vassal principality,

units:

THE AGE OF EXPLORATION

Akinji --> to 1648

Lagator ( Bulgaria and Serbia)

Ashaghi Bölüks

Kirmizi Bayrak

Deli

Sari Bayrak

Jebelü

Timarli Sipahi

Iyalaras

Okchu Yenicheri

Zirhli Nefer

Voynuk

--from 1572-> Vozy

--from 1572-> Ta'ifat Al Ru'sa (Marocco, Algieria and Tunisia)

--from 1572-> Tüfekchi

Tüfekchi Yenicheri

Sekbans

Levends

Ashirs

--from 1648-> Panduks (Croatia, Serbia)

--from 1572-> Lovas hajdúk (Carpathia, Hungary)

Curteni (Wallachia)

Strajeri (Moldavia)

Razesi (Moldavia)

--from 1572-> Hajdú puskások

--from 1572-> Cossacks

--from 1572-> Zaporozhye




THE RELIGIOUS TURMOIL

Akinji --> to 1648

Ashaghi Bölüks

Kirmizi Bayrak

Deli

Sari Bayrak

Jebelü

Timarli Sipahi

Zirhli Nefer

Ta'ifat Al Ru'sa (Marocco, Algieria and Tunisia)

Tüfekchi Yenicheri

Tüfekchi

Ashirs

--from 1648-> Panduks (Croatia, Serbia)

Lovas hajdúk (Carpathia, Hungary)

Mamluk Cavalry

Curteni (Wallachia)

Strajeri (Moldavia)

Razesi (Moldavia)

Martolos (Greece)

Hajdú puskások

Cossacks

Zaporozhye




THE SUN KING'S AMBITION

Ashaghi Bölüks

Kirmizi Bayrak

Deli

Sari Bayrak

Jebelü

Timarli Sipahi

Zirhli Nefer

Sarica

Debrebentcis

Eflaks

Jarakisa ( Khazar)

Ta'ifat Al Ru'sa (Marocco, Algieria and Tunisia)

Tüfekchi Yenicheri

Tüfekchi

Rosiori (Wallachia)

Ashirs

Panduks (Croatia, Serbia)

Mamluk Cavalry

Martolos (Greece)

Cossacks

Zaporozhye



*unique* - the biggest faction in the later part of the game. Huge armies of cavalry and infantry.
Timarli Sipahi weaker in the last campaign, Janissaries and Kirmizi Bayrak better than before.

CRIMEAN KHANATE
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general - minor faction,

army - NATIONAL,

heroes - FEW,

unique structures - NONE,

units:

THE AGE OF EXPLORATION

Kirim Suvari (B)

Atli Tatarlar

Tatar Arkans

Izci Tatarlar

Kipchak Asker

--from 1572-> Keffe Bekci

Nogay Asker

--from 1572-> Vozy

--from 1572-> Ukrainian Peasants

--from 1572-> Lovas hajdúk (Carpathia, Hungary)

Ashirs

Curteni (Wallachia)

Strajeri (Moldavia)

Razesi (Moldavia)

--from 1572-> Hajdú puskások

--from 1572-> Cossacks

--from 1572-> Zaporozhye





THE RELIGIOUS TURMOIL

Kirim Suvari (B)

Atli Tatarlar

Tatar Arkans

Izci Tatarlar

Kipchak Asker

Keffe Bekci

Nogay Asker

Ukrainian Peasants

Dzhura

Ashirs

Lovas hajdúk (Carpathia, Hungary)

Curteni (Wallachia)

Strajeri (Moldavia)

Razesi (Moldavia)

Hajdú puskások

Cossacks

Zaporozhye



THE SUN KING'S AMBITION

Kirim Suvari (B)

Atli Tatarlar

Tatar Arkans

Izci Tatarlar

Kipchak Asker

Keffe Bekci

Nogay Asker

Segmen

Jarakisa ( Khazar)

Ta'ifat Al Ru'sa (Marocco, Algieria and Tunisia)

Ukrainian Peasants

Ashirs

Cossacks

Zaporozhye



*Unique* - army consists almost only of numerous cavalry, have cavalry which can hide in the open.

COSSACKS (ONLY DURING SUN KING'S AMBITION)
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general - minor faction,

army - NATIONAL,

heroes - FEW,

unique structures - cossack camp, sych,

units:

THE SUN KING'S AMBITION

Cossacks

Zaporozhye

Molodyki

Plastuny

Harakterniki

Storozha

Serdjuk

Vozy z poshkhamy

Ukrainian Peasants

Dzhura (B)


*unique* - can recruit large armies, have access to warwagons, have cavalry which can hide in the open, Harakterniki are almost superhuman in melee, but can be shot to pieces.


CIRCASSIA (ONLY DURING SUN KING'S AMBITION)
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general - minor faction,

army - NATIONAL,

heroes - FEW,

unique structures - sych,

units:

THE SUN KING'S AMBITION

Adiga Dzhigit (B)

Lhxwqwel Zevako

Tiley

Abrek Dzhigit

Werq Dzhigit

Czeremisi (Volhynia & Volga-Bulgaria)

Zaporozhye


*unique* - Tiley is in essence a suicidal, sacrificial unit - generally one-shot weapon, one-two should be used per army, only.

Units have new animations, so don't worry.

[Deus ret.]

If you want to stay in the Medieval timeframe, I'd recommend the MedMod. It contains interesting concepts also present in Pike&Musket (homeland/recruiting zones) and grants a nice, overhauled units roster to most factions, especially to Poland in late. The only downside is that you can't start in high with this mod but well.....
have fun!

[Tristrem]

thanks guys i will try to pike and musket mod, and lets all cross our fingers and hope that mtw2 will give some love to wastern european factions

[caravel]

The XL mod adds alot of new factions such as the Lithuanians, Armenians, Bulgarians, Serbians, Volga Bulgars and the Cumans, without changing the time period or too much of the gameplay. May be worth a try before progressing to a more total conversion.

[cegorach]

When it comes to Poland - no MTW mod can compete with Pike and Musket