Canada

[Abokasee]

Have you noticed canada has been left in every single game, they don't even get mention at all even Rise of Nations theirs is no Canada civilzation or in any game has any one else noticed this and will there ever be a canada faction in any game?

[cannon_fodder]

Is this topic a joke? A nation as young and inconsequential as Canada hardly deserves representation in most kinds of strategy games. Not that I have anything against the country, it's just not good game material.

[Beirut]

Is this topic a joke? A nation as young and inconsequential as Canada hardly deserves representation in most kinds of strategy games. Not that I have anything against the country, it's just not good game material.

Oh yeah, you're going to make a lot of friends amongst the beaver people with statements like that, eh?

[Kekvit Irae]

If I remember correctly, Canada is still officially a part of the British Commonwealth.

[Beirut]

If I remember correctly, Canada is still officially a part of the British Commonwealth.

Phrased correctly, my dearest Kekviterae, it would read; Canada is still officially the best part of the British Commonwealth.

[lars573]

Canada is in CoD3 with missions. But CoD3 is only for the Xbox.

[Mikeus Caesar]

If I remember correctly, Canada is still officially a part of the British Commonwealth.

You make it sound like a bad thing.

Every member of the commonwealth gets a free membership card, a place in the commonwealth games and independence from Britain.

The membership card gets you 40% off at Marks and Spencers.

[Reverend Joe]

There is no more reason to put Canada in a "Civilization" game than there is the US. They are both too young to qualify as major movers of history over time.

In a ww2 game, on the other hand, they deserve representation.

[GiantMonkeyMan]

imagine canada on civilistion:
Canada/Le Canada
Unique unit/Unité Unique: The Royal Canadian Mounted Police/la Police Montée Canadienne Royale

on a more serious note... canada hasn't really hit the history books that much at all, it has never been a super power and possibly never will be and so isn't really ever going to be an important part of many games... also my french was probably terrible

[Kekvit Irae]

You make it sound like a bad thing.

How so? I was pointing out that Canada was a part of the British Commonwealth, and thus was part of an important empire in history. In fact, I'm actually quite disappointed that Canada is left out of many historical games. French-Indian War, War of 1812, WW1, WW2... All of which Canada (being a part of the British Empire for most of the time) has taken an important, but often misunderstood or ignored, role in.


@Zorba: The US has three major, empire-defining, roles in history... Revolutionary War (where we defeated the Brits on their own terms), Mexican-American War (where we first became a superpower in the hemisphere), and WWII, where we helped defeat two overwhelming superpowers with the help of the British (and Commonwealth, mind you) and the Soviets. The US may be young, but it certainly has earned a place in historical games.

[Crazed Rabbit]

Phrased correctly, my dearest Kekviterae, it would read; Canada is still officially the best part of the British Commonwealth.

I'll agree to that!

CR

[lars573]

How so? I was pointing out that Canada was a part of the British Commonwealth, and thus was part of an important empire in history. In fact, I'm actually quite disappointed that Canada is left out of many historical games. French-Indian War, War of 1812, WW1, WW2... All of which Canada (being a part of the British Empire for most of the time) has taken an important, but often misunderstood or ignored, role in.

Sadly no. The French and Indian war is when Canada was conquered from the French by the British. In the war of 1812 the only colonial units that fought were militia battalions. Anyone in a red coat was a British citizen born in Great Britain. The first time Canadian troops fought as a regular army was in the 2nd Boer war. But in WW1 and WW2 all the dominions fought under the British flag in France. I'd like WW2 games to represent the British army as it truely was. A multiethinc (Imperial troops from India, Africa, west indies, and south east asia) and multinational (the dominions Canada, Austrialia, New Zealand, and South Africa) army.

[Abokasee]

imagine canada on civilistion:
Canada/Le Canada
Unique unit/Unité Unique: The Royal Canadian Mounted Police/la Police Montée Canadienne Royale

on a more serious note... canada hasn't really hit the history books that much at all, it has never been a super power and possibly never will be and so isn't really ever going to be an important part of many games... also my french was probably terrible

Never has hollond yet they've had mod made about them and I forgot the spelling and location of their country! click here for their website

[cannon_fodder]

Canada is in CoD3 with missions. But CoD3 is only for the Xbox.

Cool, I wasn't aware of that. I was going to say something about "perhaps in a WW2 shooter", then I thought that we've probably already seen more than enough WW2 FPSs.

There is no more reason to put Canada in a "Civilization" game than there is the US. They are both too young to qualify as major movers of history over time.

Did you mean that the other way around? If so, I disagree. The US has made a huge impact in the world in its short history. Also, if it's a "Civilization" game, then it's a moot point anyway, as Canada could basically be considered part of the same civilization as the US.

Oh yeah, you're going to make a lot of friends amongst the beaver people with statements like that, eh?

Haha, take it as a compliment. It means Canada isn't so much full of imperialists. You do see my point, however, surely? In a civilization game with limited factions Canada would be a bizzare choice.

[GiantMonkeyMan]

there is also a canada mod for civ4... but i thought we were talking about real games not modification of games

[Reverend Joe]

I am looking at Canada and the US in terms of the last 5000 years of human history. Compared to that, we are extremely insignificant.

[Samurai Waki]

I am looking at Canada and the US in terms of the last 5000 years of human history. Compared to that, we are extremely insignificant.

I guess it depends on where you come from. I don't think the Natives feel the same way you do. If you compare North American History with Euro-Asian-African History, yeah, theres not much in terms of progression. But if you look at it from their point of view, they did a lot, the Aztecs, Hopi, Iroquois, and well... a ton of different tribes did a lot more than just hunt and pick berries.

[cannon_fodder]

I am looking at Canada and the US in terms of the last 5000 years of human history. Compared to that, we are extremely insignificant.

True, but using that logic all the factions in Civilization games are pretty stupid. Most of them only had a big impact in the world for a very limited span of time.

[GoreBag]

The original DoD had British maps where the Canadian military was actually concerned, but they were equipped the same way, so the only difference was in the flags present.

I think a Canadian campaign in a series like Call of Duty would do well...Italy, France and into the interior of fortress Europe. I won't buy an Xbox for it, though.

Are there many World War 1 games around? I can only think of mods for Half-life.

[lars573]

There is an RTS game the entente. It's made by a Russian developer with the Cossacks 1 engine. But it only has Britain, France, Russia, Germany, and Austria.

[Spino]

Have you noticed canada has been left in every single game, they don't even get mention at all even Rise of Nations theirs is no Canada civilzation or in any game has any one else noticed this and will there ever be a canada faction in any game?

I have it on very good authority that the reason behind Canada's exclusion from video games is because in a previous lifetime the Canadian people were responsible for committing acts of unspeakable evil. As a punishment for its sins, the Canadian nation must now pay the ultimate price by not only being excluded from all forms of electronic entertainment but shall also be virtually ignored with regard to its government, culture and respectable contribution to the Allied cause during World War 2. Furthermore the people of Canada shall be forever deluded into thinking that the unacceptably thick slices of pork that grace their breakfast plates is actually 'bacon'.

[octavian]

The problem is, I don't know a single person who would consider that, "bacon"

Honestly Canada is what? 30 million people? Of which what percentage live within 8 hours of the US border? 80-90%? Sure, there are differences between us and Americans, but honestly, what are we going to make a game about? Role-Playing a beaver?

[Abokasee]

Yes

acually that make a pretty good game if you game them guns and all it would be a bit like Battle Feild 2 in some respects

[Sjakihata]

You can play Canada in HoI

[Beirut]

MS Combat Flight Simulator 2 had decent Canadian content. Lots of unique callsigns and the like. Also, with custom skins, you can fly RCAF missions in IL2.

[Vladimir]

Phrased correctly, my dearest Kekviterae, it would read; Canada is still officially the best part of the British Commonwealth.

Australia makes Total War games

[Beirut]

Canada plays Total War games.

You keep working - we'll keep playing.

[Martok]

I suppose Canada could be its own faction if someone made a strategy game based on the War of 1812. Come to think of it, though, even that wouldn't make a whole lot of sense, as wasn't it still directly under control of the British crown back then? (I seem to recall that the Dominion of Canada wasn't formed until 1867 or so, but my it's been a while since I studied that period of history.)

In truth, I'm rather sympathetic to Canadians. We have a fair bit in common with most of them, in addition to which we Minnesotans are often mistaken for Canadians anyway. (We just don't say "eh?". )

[edyzmedieval]

Australia makes Total War games

And Romania makes Ubisoft games such as Silent Hunter III, a favourite among Orgahs.

[GoreBag]

Ubisoft is French...