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    THE HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE


    The Pentagonal Tower in Nuremberg


    Being an extract from the journals of Adolphus Mann of Nurenberg, Doctor of Letters

    August 28, 1080

    Reynhardt was late this morning. Slovenly. He knows I detest his lack of punctuality. I know that he will probably never change.

    ‘Master,’ he said, bobbing his head slightly. His Adam’s apple protrudes slightly, giving him an unhealthy look. ‘I’m sorry about being late, I…I…I…was held up on the road. There was an accident – a cart full of pigs overturned – it was very crowded…’

    Waved a hand to dismiss his excuse. He had been staring again at the Pentagonal tower, dreaming of being a knight. Fool of a boy. Not new. It’s been forty years up already. Muscles of a clerk, anyway. This is the best place for him, and I told him that, not that he appreciated it.

    ‘The tax scrolls, boy.’ Met with Graf Mandorf today to discuss our revenues. Sharp man. Hard man. Clever like diamond. Asks difficult questions. Worth cultivating.

    Returned home late.


    Welcome to Vignette III – a record of the struggles and tribulations of the Holy Roman Empire though many years of history. First, though, a disclaimer.

    DISCLAIMER

    I should confess that I was disappointed by the lack of separate periods in the campaign game. To my mind the most interesting HRE is the late Medieval Battle-of-Pavia HRE, in which semi-bourgeouis armies of handgunners and halberdiers wreak havoc upon arrogant noble foes with much more expensive armour. It is the HRE where Grafs and Landsherrs with improbable names and unfamiliar titles bicker constantly over the forests and cities of a Germany rapidly embracing the early Renaissance, where strange peasant cults constantly threaten the established order and where within each monastery there is a Reformation waiting to begin. It is the Germany of the novel ‘Q’. Absolutely historical. But to be honest I’ve yet to find a more entertaining version of the Mitteleurop of my mind’s eye than that of Games Workshop’s Warhammer universe – which may give some clue why the franchise has done so well in Germany itself.

    As I find it quite difficult to write about early-medieval Germany, I have settled on a simple solution – ignore the problem. This will therefore be full of anachronisms, misrepresentations, inaccuracies and other bugbears of the slothful writer. For these sins, reader, and for the peculiar treatment of time in the game, please be forgiving.

    Game is of course on VH/VH.


    INTRODUCTION



    Das Reich


    The HRE begins with six provinces: the castles of Stauffen and Innsbruck, and the cities of Nuremberg, Frankfurt (Capital), Vienna and Bologna, this latter playing host to the Emperor with his army. The campaign goals are to hold twenty provinces, eliminate the Milanese and eliminate the Danes. One way of achieving this would of course be to invent some seven hundred and fifty years ahead of time the concept of Blitzkrieg, smash Denmark, do the same to the Milanese, and quit before turn 30 rolled around. But that would just be too easy – and besides, I hope to maximise the chance of playing with some decent late-era troops.

    HOUSE RULES

    Think of the HRE and, especially if you’ve played MTW1, you are likely to shudder at the memory of generals with shockingly little loyalty. In fact, it’s not too much of a stretch to say that for most of its history, the HRE was characterised by its inconstant and fractious nature. Now the game models this with low loyalty for HRE characters, although this is far less pronounced than it was in MTW1, but this isn’t really enough of a penalty since you don’t really need generals to keep your provinces in order – low taxes and a sensible building policy will do that nicely.

    So I decided to spice things up a bit for this campaign. Each different family member in this campaign will have their own agenda based on a number of factors: their traits, the bit of land I decide to give them, and the overall goal of the game. I’ll decide from time to time who gets funding – certainly at the start, it’s the Emperor who will get most of his pet projects approved in the first instance. Now, let’s meet our cast.

    WHO’S WHO

    Family




    In the prime of life, Emperor Heinrich and a moderate-sized army are based in Bologna. Since he’s in Italy, it’s a fair bet that this is where Heinrich perceives his sphere of influence to be. So Heinrich will have command of the German army in Italy and perhaps into the Balkans – and isn’t terribly interested in what happens in Germany Proper. He’ll need to pick up a castle en route, though, or rely on reinforcements from the North which may not be forthcoming for his best troops.



    Prince Henry is based in Staufen. Since from his castle walls he can faintly see the Rhine valley, any expansion of his personal power base will come at the expense of the French - and the Swiss castle in Bern would be a tempting bulwark against a possible attack from the ambitious Milanese.



    Heinrich’s second son, Leopold, has set his eyes east and to the endless possibilities offered by the wide plains of Eastern Europe. He will need to develop skill fighting the expert horsemen of those regions, though, and their new champions the Kings of Poland and Hungary.

    Generals



    Possibly sizing themselves up for the Imperial crown are Maximillian Mandorf, Dietrich von Saxony and Otto von Kassel. They’ll make decent governors, and a good way of testing the traits system. Oh, and Mandorf looks promising. Watch him closely…he can only benefit from sharing a hometown with my narrator.

    Well, that’s the scene set. Update to come after I’ve played the first few turns.
    Last edited by Beefeater; 12-12-2006 at 19:05.
    Vignettes: England, France and the Holy Roman Empire.

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    I'm already in love with our new, no-nonsense, spare worded narrator.

    As to your (future) roleplaying of the conflicting generals, I can only remain in silent awe : that is so much more than I'm capable of... Get inside one mind ? Sure. Inside 4 conflicting ones ? Now that's brain nimbleness.
    Anything wrong ? Blame it on me. I'm the French.

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    :shock:!!! Wow...thi actually convinced me to join the forum just to encourage you

    I must say I love your idea of role-playing generals. It not only ands a new kind of flavor to the game, bit it PROLONGS the fun of it! Hell I am thinking of doing a similar project, though with a different faction of course.

    Still I will be cheering from the sidelines
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    So Mr Beefeater,

    The plot thickens.

    Role playing Generals is a great idea!

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    Attn: Consumer of meat products

    We hereby do this day, 2nd of December, formally and respectfully demand further excellent reading, post-haste, for the mutual benefit of said fans and the satisfaction of said author.

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    Remember remember the 2nd of December
    Beefeater plotted and brought
    an excellent read, that for no reason
    should ever be forgot.


    We await with bated breath mein Kaiser. Lang lebend das Reich!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whacker
    Attn: Consumer of meat products

    We hereby do this day, 2nd of December, formally and respectfully demand further excellent reading, post-haste, for the mutual benefit of said fans and the satisfaction of said author.

    Signed,

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    I formally second the motion made by the honorable member for North Carolina.

    All those is favour say: "Aiee"

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    Aiiiiieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wonderland
    Aiiiiieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!
    I'm pleased to announce the motion has now been formally passed with the member for California's approval.

    We just have to get it passed by both houses of parliament and we can turn it into a Law!!

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    bring it on beefy!

    Brilliant as always!

    kampfen deutscheland!

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    Since I am from Germanic stock (well, one of my ancestors was), I'm looking foward to this Vignette. And I'm loving it already.

    Thumbs up, Beefeater, thumbs up.
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    Looking forward to this one even more so than the French vignette
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    GERMANIA ITALIENSIS

    Being an extract from the journal of Adolphus Mann, Doctor of Letters

    February 5, 1100

    Full day. Met with Herr Kleiben. Distasteful. Necessary. Information is power. He still reeks of the brothel though. Huns are peaceful since Prince Henry’s marriage. Poles too far away, Danes too quiet.

    Mandorf worries about Von Saxony’s adoption. Not jealous – something subtler. The Graf had more pressing concerns in any case.

    “Venice.” When he wants my opinion he is always this way. A statement, never a question.

    “Still besieged, Mein Graf. Herr Kleiben says that Heinrich is personally in command after that unpleasantness with the inquisitor.”

    “Ja. Pity about von Kassel.” Was that the trace of a smile on his face? “Unwise of him to stray so far from his bodyguards.”

    Unwise of me to raise the subject, he means. Change it. “No news from Milan, Mein Graf. Their merchants are still trading in the occupied cities; if they plan war they are hardly hurrying.”

    “Why should they? Think, Adolphus! Heinrich takes Venice, with his forces reduced. From Rome to Innsbruck, who else has an army? If the Duke of Milan has any sense, he’ll canonise Heinrich – once he’s had him executed. Not good for you and me, Adolphus.”

    He is right. With Heinrich dead, Henry would rule, and his adopted sons are Von Saxony and Von Tyrolia. No place for Mandorf there.

    “I think our dear Kaiser may need assistance. Do you have the letter of credit?” I show him. He inspects it, smiles, signs.

    “Present this to my friend Andreas in Innsbruck. Tell him what we need – arms and armour for five score horsemen, and provisions for a siege. Raise knights as well, or however many you can.” I bowed and left. Clever, Mandorf is.

    I hope, for his own sake, that Von Saxony keeps a good priest handy.


    General
    As with chess, Civ, or almost any turn-based game of strategy, the first few turns are the charm. The HRE is going to try to expand in several directions at once and will probably continue to pull away from the centre. This will make for some interesting situations as our characters grow less able to call upon reinforcements from one another…

    Kaiser Heinrich

    Knowing the importance of keeping His Holiness friendly, Heinrich authorises the first expenditure of the game by permitting the expansion of the Town Centre in Bologna. As the Italians tend to field missile-heavy armies, he also orders Von Kassel in Innsbruck to raise knights and sergeants, and to build a stables so as to increase the pool of troops available for recruitment.

    Shortly afterwards, he moves out with his full starting army and besieges Florence, which the council of nobles had decreed was an appropriate target. Relations with the Papal states take nose-dive to ‘very poor’. This does not throw Heinrich, however, who orders Von Kassel to lead the newly-recruited knights and sergeants from Innsbruck to the Milanese border. Florence falls to a lightning assault…


    Machtpolitik

    …but the Venetians have taken careful note of the reduced German presence in Italy and move to besiege Bologna. Heinrich rides back at full speed and engages the Venetians in an evening battle.

    Skirmish Bolognese

    This is one of those maps I always have trouble with. The whole thing is dotted with trees. I mean, who in their right mind would really fight in a forest? It’s a death trap for an organised army.
    The Venetians are out in force, their army composed of Italian militia backed up by peasant archers. Heinrich splits his men into three groups: infantry to the left and right of the Venetian lines, archers forming a classic ‘weak centre’, and advances.


    Tree-hugging

    The infantry envelopment works like a charm, catching the unfortunate Italian archers from both directions and breaking them very quickly. The Venetian general committed his reserves to the battle, and for a moment looked set to turn things around. The Italian captain fought on bravely…


    Death of a Captain

    …but fruitlessly, finally sinking to his knees as he was run through by German spears. Italian resistance crumbled as Heinrich himself led a devastating charge into the flanks of the one unbroken unit, and the battle was won. Heinrich offered to ransom his prisoners, but the Venetians pled penury.Von Kessel took responsibility for passing on the bad news in person, with the aid of a large, sharp axe.


    A near-perfect charge

    Having shattered the bulk of the Venetian land forces in Italy, Heinrich met up with Von Kassel and laid siege to La Serenissima herself. As the Pope had recently gratefully accepted large gifts of German gold, neither Heinrich nor Von Kassel spared much of a thought for the lurking figure with the broad-brimmed hat…


    Confess to me today, or confess to the Lord tomorrow.

    …since the Pope was appeased, it seems safe to assume that the insanely pious (and probably also piously insane) Oddus de Giallo was on a frolic of his own when he burned Von Kassel for heresy. Possibly he had relatives in the unfortunate Venetian army that had recently come to a bad end?

    Heinrich didn’t stick around to find out for certain, and immediately rode with his men for Florence, only returning a turn or two later when Cardinal Redcap had departed. As things stand, Venice can only hold for another four years at most – although they have had plenty of time to regroup, and another attack can be expected. More troops have been urgently requested from Innsbruck, although I am not sure they will be in time for the inevitable Venetian relief force.

    Traits: Heinrich is now ‘Fair in Rule’ and a ‘Wall Taker’.

    Into the West

    Prince Henry’s ambitions in France would require more troops than he had to hand. Imperial couriers sped north, bearing the message that Dietrich von Saxony should commandeer the expeditionary force in Northern Germany and lead it to Prince Henry. This Von Saxony dutifully does, beating off a rebel ambush on the way.

    As the column is marching through Teutonic forests, interesting news comes from the other side of the HRE. The daughter of King Lazlo of Hungary has arrived in Vienna, seeking trade rights. On what one presumes is a brief trip to Vienna, Henry spies the young lady and is immediately enthralled by her enormous tracts of land. They are married the following spring, and with that marriage the honest townsfolk of Vienna can breathe a little easier.


    “Willst du bist der tot euch scheide, treu ihr sein für alle tage?”

    Eventually von Saxony’s troops arrive and Prince Henry leads them off towards Metz, conquering it handily and building a Wooden Castle around the old Motte and Bailey.


    Made Man

    Success is making Prince Henry increasingly aware of the need for a coterie of generals he can trust. He adopts the ambitious and disloyal Jan von Tyrolia as a son, and packs him off to govern Vienna. Brother Leopold may get a nasty shock if he tries to requisition more troops from his old power base. Henry also adopts Von Saxony as his spare heir, following another victory of the northern governor against rebels (Shortly before his adoption, VS began to ‘Feel Appreciated’).

    Traits: Henry is now ‘Fair in Rule’, ‘Religious’ and bears the ‘Marks of War’. Although his ‘Wife lacks charm’ he does at least have ‘Royal Ties’ as a result of his marriage (what, except just being the heir apparent? Bizarre).

    Bohemian Dances

    The second son, Leopold, has been busy in the east. Marching immediately from Vienna towards Prague with all the men he could muster, and requisitioning most of the garrison of Nuremberg as well, Leopold settles in with an army composed mainly of archers for a long siege.

    The siege continues for seven long years (yes, I’m following the character timeline not the strange doubled-up timeline used by the game. Except for the diary excerpts…), at the end of which the Bohemian citizen-soldiers, half-starved and outnumbered, attempt to break out.


    Cold Iron

    The battle is pleasantly one-sided. The citizens of Prague had been depending upon a band of lightly armoured Slavic mercenaries. The effect of these weird, demonic figures approaching through the mist upon the superstitious German peasants can only be imagined. The natural response to eldritch forces – arrows of cold iron – proved extremely effective against burlap armour, and the mercenaries fell in their droves.


    Guerillas in the mist

    Leopold cleaned up shortly afterwards with his household cavalry. By this point Leopold had clearly noticed that Jan Von Tyrolia had seized power in Vienna, and would have been keenly aware of the need to bolster his own position. His solution was to bribe the Bohemians with new lands in the northeast: leaving behind a token force, he marched the very next year on unwalled Breslau, capturing it swiftly in an unremarkable fight. The nobles paid handsomely for their new lands (Council Mission, 2500 florins, capture Breslau), and the village itself was swiftly converted into a castle.

    Traits: Leopold has acquired the ‘Marks of War’ and is now known to be ‘Brave’.

    The Home Front

    Mandorf is unlikely ever to be adopted into the family – he’s no general – but as a bright man in a safe, central city, he is better placed than anyone else to see the big picture. In his first few turns he oversees the expansion of the farming system to communal farming, and builds dirt roads, a grain exchange and a small church. He has also built a brothel and commenced the training of spies – these will be crucial for the next 10 turns, as someone is certain to attack the HRE and they can give an idea who.

    Conclusion

    It’s been an eventful few turns, and the outlook for the HRE is mixed. Venice will strike back with probably quite decent troops, and even if they can be dislodged, it’s highly likely that the Milanese will start causing trouble in Italy. An alliance with the French would be helpful but is improbable given the natural conflict for dominance of Alsace and Lorraine.

    The Hungarians are probably dependable as allies – so long as Von Tyrolia keeps a decent garrison in Vienna and is not tempted away with Magyar cash. The Poles however have taken advantage of the sedate pace of Leopold’s expansion and are now entrenched in North Germany, with control of the castle at Magdeburg. The Danes are in Hamburg and could also pose a threat. Finally, the French might decide that Alsace would look nice as the easternmost province of France instead of the westernmost province of Germany.

    Everything to play for.
    Last edited by Beefeater; 12-04-2006 at 17:27.
    Vignettes: England, France and the Holy Roman Empire.

    Details (mini-vignettes): Dominions 3

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    Does anyone know how to shrink the images? I'd rather not have them quite so large.
    Vignettes: England, France and the Holy Roman Empire.

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    This gives whole new meaning to the phrase "WHERES THE BEEF!?!?"

    Outstanding! More!

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    After a short campaign with Hungary and a long, continuing one with Poland, I was bearing quite a grudge against the HRE. You've actually errr... humanized them for me with this compelling story.

    Great work, Mr. Beefeater.

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    Excellent work again Beefeater. It's pretty easy to resize your images, depending on what program you have.

    If you have any version of Photoshop, just open the screenshot in it and go to the Image menu, click "Resize" and then "Resize image". A dialogue box should pop up with the image dimensions. Edit the width from 1024 pixels (presuming your running the game at this resolution) to 790 pixels (standard width of most forums).

    (Note that if the height & width are 'locked' [you'll see a little chain linking the height and width boxes] then the height will edit itself to scale with the new width. If not, you'll have to manually edit the height to 593 pixels to keep the image proportional).
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    Mr Beefeater,

    Excellent work as usual sir.

    Can I ask a favour. Can you post a pic of the empire before each section?

    Due to the fact your all over the place like a dogs breakfast I am having trouble keeping up with who and where :)

    Due to all the pending intrigue I'd like to know the "lay of the land" so to speak.

    Once again fanatastic stuff.

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    Beef, if you're hosting on Imageshack, after you've got it hosted, it'll give you three pieces of code to use for linking the image. Pick either of the two that start with [ URL=... and click on that, then copy the highlighted text. Just paste it into your post. That'll give you a clickable thumbnail image linked to the fullsized one. As an example, here's one I took earlier tonight. It was intended to show the massive range of culverins, but the cursor doesn't show in the screenshot. The code is this:
    Code:
    {URL=https://img120.imageshack.us/my.php?image=culverinspg2.jpg]{IMG]https://img120.imageshack.us/img120/5528/culverinspg2.th.jpg[/IMG][/URL]
    except the opening { has to be replaced with [ and the result is this:
    Age and treachery will defeat youth and skill every time.

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    Can I ask a favour. Can you post a pic of the empire before each section?
    Yeah, do this please :)
    I love your stories ^_^

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    brilliant stuff keep up the good work!

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    Thanks to Quillan for advice on Coding, and to Wizzie for info on how to produce forum-sized images in the future.

    I'll start each future post with a picture of the Empire as requested, so we can watch it spread across Europe (or shrink if that's what happens...)
    Vignettes: England, France and the Holy Roman Empire.

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    Small question...
    What does "Vignette" mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Magus
    Small question...
    What does "Vignette" mean?
    A short story if im not mistaken.

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    Sehr schön mein Herr !!!.
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    A vignette, in the sense I'm using it here, is a short 'sketch' in words.
    Vignettes: England, France and the Holy Roman Empire.

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    Um...I was bored with my current photoshop project and got slightly sidetracked...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wizzie
    Um...I was bored with my current photoshop project and got slightly sidetracked...
    Oo, nice. Maybe all of Beefy's vignettes can be compiled and made extra pretty with cool stuff like that, and other templates and such, maps and so on. This AAR at the TWC has a cool presentation style with original templates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wizzie
    Um...I was bored with my current photoshop project and got slightly sidetracked...

    Very good idea but... cursives ? This is the HRE we're talking about here ! Nice, thick gothic script would be better I think, if harder to read
    Anything wrong ? Blame it on me. I'm the French.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefeater
    Thanks to Quillan for advice on Coding, and to Wizzie for info on how to produce forum-sized images in the future.

    I'll start each future post with a picture of the Empire as requested, so we can watch it spread across Europe (or shrink if that's what happens...)
    Veilen Dank fuer die Empire Pictures Herr Beefeater.

    Gruss Gott
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