The Staked Longbow Army of Doom

[Louis de la Ferte Ste Colombe]

Orda, you owe me, you made me read that stuff again... I thought there might be something intersting in there



Louis,

[`-Silent-FireBlade]

LOL...u got me confused with Maji_FireBlade....Take it from me im the original FireBlade ;o)


It looks like im gonna be makin sum personal history with u boy not revisiting...talk about challeging the wrong player in more ways than 1

PS...Stake box 4 the win WOOT

[Orda Khan]

You have my humble apologies Louis

.......Orda

[-Silent-Someguy]

Its more interesting then most of the "omg cav kill spearman" "Why are ele's so powerful" drivle in these forums.

The stake trapezoid IS the best you have it like this

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  \           /
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You take some mailed knights or whatever cav and you fudge pack them in the gap in the front when they try and get in, as im sure we all know cav dnt ride down other cav, even weaker cav half as fast as they do inf. Anyways so u sed ur cav into the gap when they try and get in then fudgepack ur inf in behind them, while ur bowmen shoot it up. This way the gap in the front tempts them to attack u there and not move around the sides and stuff and just walk their cav into the backs and sides.

TosaInu: still not entirely WYSIWYG, but code tags help.

[-Silent-Someguy]

ok my trapezoid got messed up

[Yun Dog]

I think I can envisage the trapezoid

basically protecting the side flanks with stakes ever widening - but keeping an open front and back should the need be to sally forth or retreat.

put a row of pikes at the front and that only leaves one option for the enemys cav - the rear

I like the advantage of having some mobility and not being able to be completely surrounded

I think the point of the staked longbow army is its the extreme end point example - a fire base in the viet cong controlled jungles

What about a triangle of terror

you basically want to funnel the enemy into one small gap

___\ p p p p /
__\_a a a a a _/
_\_c___i i i___c_/
__|||||||||||||

p = pikes
a = arch
i = inf
c = cav
\/|=spikes

[Demok]

Well I just Rolled 2 separate people using the stakebox..... Clear Vic both times.... but hey... it's a great tactic!!!

[Storm_Of_Shields]

Please listen to the moderators of this forum and get back on the topic. This was original a tactic meant for fun and not in competitive play if it was used in competative play then that isnt the problem of these people in the topic it is that of those who used it.

[-Silent-Someguy]

you arent even an admin here shields.


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But his advice is intended to be help you...

Perhaps doing as I request would be wise?

[pike master]

id hate to see what an english archer defensive formation will perform like when they fix the two handed units. those billmen would be something to fear if their fixed properly.

[Demok]

yeah their defence of 4 is really scary!

[ElmarkOFear]

Someguy: I actually played in a game awhile back where someone used your "trapezoid" defense. Though it looked more like an "L" Makes me wonder if it wasn't you using a different name or if someone was copying it.

It was a 3v3 and he was on a far flank and set up close to the middle player, with the L portion of the stake formation facing frontward and extending back along the outside flank. He placed cav in the back of the formation. and the middle player set up forward to cover the front with his cav. The Player on the other flank set up back and moved towards these two to cover the other flank.

It seemed to work fairly well. It forces the enemy to go way out of his way with cav to get to your flank, while under fire the entire way and it also puts his cav way out of position to help his teammates if they are rushed. Which is what happened. The enemy cav was isolated on one flank, his other teammates were rushed and he could not get there in time to help out. He went ahead and slaughtered the arrow units, but the game was decided by then. All in all the "trapezoind" archer units were more valuable for their stakes than they were for their arrows.


It looked something like this:

----------- Army 1 ----------- Army 2 --------------- Army 3 --

X--------CAV-----------------------------------------------
X
X--------------------------FOOT-----------------FOOT-----
X---------------------------CAV------------------CAV------
X
X
XXX XXX XXX XXX-------- crossbows ---------- crossbows --

The X's being archers/stakes


If the patch increases spear/pike vs. cav and/or cav's power is reduced, I could see this formation becoming fairly useful in future games.

[pike master]

well the deal with the billmen is that when the cav march through the stakes to get at the archers they must slow down and therefore lose their charge bonus. they would be a perfect target for billmen then. remember that although pikemen only have a 1 defence they still hold up well animations are more important than stat figures presently.billmen right now arnt too bad for this purpose since they are cheaper than any spearmen and cheap to upgrade.

[Demok]

i doubt that was "someguy" (lunar). he hasn't used English for serious since the game first came out.

[ElmarkOFear]

The timing of it was interesting then.

[Callahan9119]

( IF ) you are not that fireblade, i sincerely apologize

if i play you and you show any hint of skill, i'll know this to be true..not afraid of losing if your a good player homey...i dont take myself very seriously and am only in a clan cuz i liked playing with some of the people

if your as good as you say, maybe you should use the stake box of doom, as i appear too nubsauce to use it effectively

i think they like cav how it is elmo, seems to me each game they get more powerful, although unit morale (or lack of it) may have just given the impression of this in rome

[-Silent-Someguy]

Not even fireblade can make the stakebox army of doom any good......

[`-Silent-FireBlade]

( IF ) you are not that fireblade, i sincerely apologize

if i play you and you show any hint of skill, i'll know this to be true..not afraid of losing if your a good player homey...i dont take myself very seriously and am only in a clan cuz i liked playing with some of the people

if your as good as you say, maybe you should use the stake box of doom, as i appear too nubsauce to use it effectively

i think they like cav how it is elmo, seems to me each game they get more powerful, although unit morale (or lack of it) may have just given the impression of this in rome

Theres no need 2 apligize,

[Demok]

you're right FB

[`-Silent-FireBlade]

Well i got warned 4 sayin its an insult 2 be compared 2 a Maji player, and comparing stake boxs to that of a 3 yr olds army, so im sorry,

[Stig]

I might be insulted again by that

*holds mouse pointer over PM mod button*

3 warnings is a small ban if I'm correct

[Paolai]

Dont waste your time with these guys Stig, just ignore them.

[Stig]

Dont waste your time with these guys Stig, just ignore them.

I try to, but there are about 4 of them, they pop up everywhere

[Paolai]

Yes I know, but they never write somethings interesting, they just like to piss off people, so just ignore them.

[-Silent-Someotherguy]

[TosaInu]

Just use the report post button please and it will be looked at. Do not bite the bait.

[Stig]

Just use the report post button please and it will be looked at. Do not bite the bait.

How many can I report at once?

[Zeph]

Yes where is this report button? I want to report stig for being prejudice and a troll.

[-Silent-Someguy]

I dont like coloured people.

Instagib? I think so.

[TosaInu]

I dont like coloured people.

-A racist comment? If so a 2 pointer will be issued.
-Referring to people speaking against the Warzone like banter here? It doesn't say anything about their color, they just know this is not the place. It was made clear that this forum isn't a FFA Insult Whoever you please. Resistence is futile, flash your BIOS.
-You realise your kind of people are 'kindly' referred to as coloured people right? You may not like yourself, we'll try to. But straighten up.

Instagib? I think so.

Instagib is reserved for spambots and highly incompatible entities. Are you a spambot or do you know for sure already that you won't behave like expected?