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[BlackAxe3001]

x1650Pro is a little better than the 7600GS. The 7600GT beats both of them by a fair margin though. The 7600GT is real close if not sometimes better than a 7800GS though. The 7600GT is just a little bit better than the x850XT. The 7600GT is just a bit better than a 6800Ultra. That kind of puts them in perspective where they all fall as for rankings.

[Slug For A Butt]

Wow BlackAxe!
I'm going to have to read, digest and price up the options.
I have a gazillionth of your hardware knowledge, all I can offer in return is a nudy poster of Kylie and a shop soiled Terry's Chocolate Orange. Hmm... I might hang on to the poster though.

[BlackAxe3001]

For the price range you are looking at, the 7600GT is the best bang for your buck.

Little better?

[Gawain of Orkeny]

For the price range you are looking at, the 7600GT is the best bang for your buck.

Little better?

Didnt I say that like 10 posts ago ?

[Caius]

[Gawain of Orkeny]

Caius Flaminius

Isnt the 7600gt a better deal ? I saw it for under 100 dollars. Also you can get a 7900GS for under 100 dollars.

[Beirut]

A good thread about cards with lots of links to reviews and such.

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=80685

[Slug For A Butt]

While I have the attention of the esteemed BlackAxe and others.



I just threw my new bits together and for some reason I'm getting nothing from the graphics card (the antiquated 9600XT from my old system). I'm getting no signal. Every time I power up, the GPU fan works for about 10 seconds then stops
I have put the card back in my old system and it's working fine. Any suggestions?

[BlackAxe3001]

What system did you put the 9600XT into?

[Slug For A Butt]

ECS KV2 Lite, San Diego 3700+, 1 Gb crucial PC3200. I sorted my problem out BlackAxe, the 4 pin power connector wasn't seated properly Reseated it and it was fine. Until... I reformatted and installed XP Home but the PC now will only run for a minute or two before it bums out. It just dies like I hit the reset button, but it doesn't boot up again. It just hangs like it's waiting for the POST mostly. But it's other favourite is to just hang with lines on the screen.
I checked the Processor temp, it's fine at 32C ( Ihaven't set a cut out temp anyway). So I'm stumped, annoyed, disappointed and lots of other words that end in -ed.
I'm thinking PSU or motherboard, but I'd appreciate any help.

[Caius]

I just threw my new bits together and for some reason I'm getting nothing from the graphics card (the antiquated 9600XT from my old system). I'm getting no signal. Every time I power up, the GPU fan works for about 10 seconds then stops
I have put the card back in my old system and it's working fine. Any suggestions?

Maybe there is some problem with other thing?Maybe the alimentation of the computer is wrong or something like that

[Slug For A Butt]

After much more messing around, it seems that the system is stable while doing certain things, but not others. It was OK for an hour formatting and installing XP, but not doing most other things. Interestingly it was happy to install and play M2TW until I went to a battle, it's got to be software I guess.
I suppose I'll just reformat and reinstall again, you never know...

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

I've heard lots of talk about a Mac running Windows, and being able to play games that way, while keeping the Mac OS. Is there any way I can build a decent gaming Mac?

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

I just went to the CyberPower Online website, and found this build for $1651 (USD).

CASE: HOT NEW! X-Discovery Mid-Tower Case 420W W/ WINDOW & LCD Temperature Display (Black Color)
CPU: (Sckt775)Intel® Core™ 2 Duo E6600 CPU @ 2.4GHz 1066FSB 2x2MB L2 Cache EM64T
MOTHERBOARD: (Quad-Core Supports) Intel DP965LT P965 Chipset LGA775 Supports Core 2 Duo CPU FSB1066 DDR2/800 Mainboard w/GbLAN, USB2.0, IEEE1394& 5.1Audio
MEMORY: (Req.DDR2 MainBoard)1GB (2x512MB) PC6400 DDR2/800 Dual Channel Memory (Corsair Value Select or Major Brand)
VIDEO CARD: SPECIAL!!! NVIDIA GeForce 7950 GT 256MB 16X PCI Express (Major Brand Powered by NVIDIA)
VIDEO CARD 2: NEW !!! NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GT 256MB PCI Express x16 (Major Brand Powered by NVIDIA)
LCD Monitor: 17& quot; VA1703WB TFT Active Matrix SXGA LCD Display Monitor
HARD DRIVE: Single Hard Drive (250GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 8MB Cache 7200RPM HDD)
Data Hard Drive: NONE
Optical Drive: (Special Price) 18X DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW DRIVE DUAL LAYER (BLACK COLOR)
Optical Drive 2: NONE
SOUND: Creative Labs SB Audigy SE

[Gawain of Orkeny]

I just went to the CyberPower Online website, and found this build for $1651 (USD).

I think you can do a little better but thats a matter of opinion. Are you going for dual graphics cards? Because thats the only reason I can see to pick that mobo. If I were you Id go with just a single. I think I did quite a bit of research before I had this current pc just built for me. Lets compare mine and the one you posted and see what you think.

CASE: HOT NEW! X-Discovery Mid-Tower Case 420W W/ WINDOW & LCD Temperature Display (Black Color)

CASE: HOT NEW! Sagitta powered by Raidmax Mid-Tower Case 500W(i upped it from stock 450W) (Silver and Red Color)



Link

CPU: (Sckt775)Intel® Core™ 2 Duo E6600 CPU @ 2.4GHz 1066FSB 2x2MB L2 Cache EM64T

Same

MOTHERBOARD: (Quad-Core Supports) Intel DP965LT P965 Chipset LGA775 Supports Core 2 Duo CPU FSB1066

ASUS P5W DH DELUXE/WIFI-AP LGA 775 Intel 975X ATX Intel Motherboard

You can overclock your E6600 up to 3.75 or 4 using stock cooling with this board.

Heres a comparison test of Core 2 Duo mobo's

Game PC

If money is no object buy the ASUS P5W DH DELUXE

You can get it for $209 at Newegg.

MEMORY: (Req.DDR2 MainBoard)1GB (2x512MB) PC6400 DDR2/800 Dual Channel Memory (Corsair Value Select or Major Brand)

MEMORY:CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 675 (PC2 5400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TWIN2X2048-5400C4PT

$139 at newegg

Heres a great deal there

CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TWIN2X2048-6400C4

only $149 after $50 mail in rebate

VIDEO CARD: SPECIAL!!! NVIDIA GeForce 7950 GT 256MB 16X PCI Express (Major Brand Powered by NVIDIA)
VIDEO CARD 2: NEW !!! NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GT 256MB PCI Express x16 (Major Brand Powered by NVIDIA)

You have me confused here. Anyway I think one really good vid card is better than two not as good ones. Heres what I went with.

VIDEO CARD:EVGA's Superclocked e-GeForce 8800 GTS 320MB

$259 at newegg

A review

LCD Monitor: 17& quot; VA1703WB TFT Active Matrix SXGA LCD Display Monitor

LCD Monitor:Gateway 22" Widescreen Monitor (FPD2275W)
GTW FPD2275W
• Flat-panel LCD
• 700:1 contrast ratio
• Picture-in-picture • 1650 x 1050 resolution
• 5-millisecond response
• 4-port USB 2.0 hub

$349 at Circuit City LINK

HARD DRIVE: Single Hard Drive (250GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 8MB Cache 7200RPM HDD)

Same

ptical Drive: (Special Price) 18X DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW DRIVE DUAL LAYER (BLACK COLOR)

Same

Optical Drive 2: NONE

Same

SOUND: Creative Labs SB Audigy SE

SOUND:Realtek ALC883M
8-Channel Analog
Optical/Coax S/PDIF Digital

Notice the parts come to less than $1400. The 1675 included building it and installing windows xp-pro.

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

I'm building this computer on a budget...I really don't want it much over $1500 if possible. It's meant mainly for gaming, music, and internet (of course), and I'm trying to keep it cheap. This was the best gaming-dedicated website I could find so far.

Are there any websites you could recommend? I need shipping to Germany, Canada, or the USA, as I can get family or friends in the final two places to send it to me if it can't be shipped to me directly.

[Gawain of Orkeny]

Are there any websites you could recommend?

Well if you noticed I reffered you to Newegg a number of times though I dont know their shipping policy to your country. You can build the PC I have for under $1400.

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

Yes, I noticed, thanks. I've been to Newegg a few times already, and I'm going to make a spreadsheet comparing everything.


Thank you for your help.

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

I've compiled a list of computers I've built or found on the Internet and where I've got them from. I'm interested in the best deal for my money, which is budgeted. Any help is much appreciated. Thanks in advance.

www.cyberpowerpc.com
cost - $1651 USD

CASE: HOT NEW! X-Discovery Mid-Tower Case 420W W/ WINDOW & LCD Temperature Display (Black Color)
CPU: (Sckt775)Intel® Core™ 2 Duo E6600 CPU @ 2.4GHz 1066FSB 2x2MB L2 Cache EM64T
MOTHERBOARD: (Quad-Core Supports) Intel DP965LT P965 Chipset LGA775 Supports Core 2 Duo CPU FSB1066 DDR2/800 Mainboard w/GbLAN, USB2.0, IEEE1394& 5.1Audio
MEMORY: (Req.DDR2 MainBoard)1GB (2x512MB) PC6400 DDR2/800 Dual Channel Memory (Corsair Value Select or Major Brand)
VIDEO CARD: SPECIAL!!! NVIDIA GeForce 7950 GT 256MB 16X PCI Express (Major Brand Powered by NVIDIA)
VIDEO CARD 2: NEW !!! NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GT 256MB PCI Express x16 (Major Brand Powered by NVIDIA)
LCD Monitor: 17& quot; VA1703WB TFT Active Matrix SXGA LCD Display Monitor
HARD DRIVE: Single Hard Drive (250GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 8MB Cache 7200RPM HDD)
Data Hard Drive: NONE
Optical Drive: (Special Price) 18X DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW DRIVE DUAL LAYER (BLACK COLOR)
Optical Drive 2: NONE
SOUND: Creative Labs SB Audigy SE



www.newegg.com

cost - $1278.99 USD

Audio: High Definition 8-Channel Surround Sound
Cache Per Processor: 4MB
Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce 7950GT 512MB Video Card
Hard Drive: 320GB SATA
Memory: 1GB DDR2
Optical Drive 1: 18X DL DVD+/-RW Drive
Optical Drive 2: 16X DVD ROM
Processor: Intel Coe 2 Duo E6600(2.4GHz)
Processor Main Features: 64 bit Dual Core Processor
Recommended Usage: Gaming

Model #: Gamer-950i2
Item #: N82E16883227021

cost - $1,348.99 USD

Audio: 7.1 Channel Surround Sound Codec
Cache Per Processor: 2 x 512KB L2 Cache
Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce 7950GT 512MB Video Card
Hard Drive: 320GB SATA II
Memory: 1GB DDR2
Optical Drive 1: 16X DL DVD+/-RW Drive
Optical Drive 2: 16X DVD ROM
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+
Processor Main Features: 64 bit Dual Core Processor
Recommended Usage: Gaming

Model #: Gamer-970A
Item #: N82E16883227009


cost - $1198.99 USD

Audio: 6 Channel Surround Sound
Cache Per Processor: 2MB L2 Cache
Graphics: 2 x NVIDIA GeForce 7600GS 256MB Video Card - running SLI Mode
Hard Drive: 320GB SATA
Memory: 2GB DDR2-800
Optical Drive 1: 18X DL DVD+/-RW Drive
Optical Drive 2: 16X DVD ROM
Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo E6400(2.13GHz)
Processor Main Features: 64 bit Dual Core Processor
Recommended Usage: Gaming
Model #: Gamer-932i-VT2
Item #: N82E16883227012


cost - $1898.99 USD (out of my price range, but it's still a nice PC)

Audio: 7.1 Channel Surround Sound
Cache Per Processor: 2 x 1MB L2 Cache
Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce 8800GTS 640MB Video Card
Hard Drive: 500GB SATA
Memory: 2GB DDR2-800
Optical Drive 1: 18X DL DVD+/-RW Drive
Optical Drive 2: 16X DVD ROM
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+(3.0GHz)
Processor Main Features: 64 bit Dual Core Processor
Recommended Usage: Gaming
Model #: Gamer-945A
Item #: N82E16883227020

cost - $1098.99 USD
Audio: 7.1 Channel Surround Sound
Cache Per Processor: 2 x 1MB L2 Cache
Graphics: 2 x NVIDIA GeForce 7600GS 256MB Video Card running SLI Mode
Hard Drive: 320GB SATA
Memory: 2GB DDR2-800
Optical Drive 1: 18X DL DVD+/-RW Drive
Optical Drive 2: 16X DVD ROM
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 5200+(2.6GHz)
Processor Main Features: 64 bit Dual Core Processor
Recommended Usage: Gaming
Model #: Gamer-913A-VP2
Item #: N82E16883227016

cost - $1073.99 USD
Cache Per Processor: 2MB L2 Cache
Form Factor: Tower
Graphics: 2 x NVIDIA GeForce 7600GS 256MB Video Card running SLI Mode
Hard Drive: 320GB SATA
Memory: 1GB DDR2
Optical Drive 1: 18X DL DVD+/-RW Drive
Optical Drive 2: 16X DVD ROM
Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo E6400(2.13GHz)
Processor Main Features: 64 bit Dual Core Processor
Recommended Usage: Gaming
Model #: Gamer-932i2
Item #: N82E16883227018




www.vigorgaming.com
cost - $1618 USD

SPECIAL PROMOTION Free Logitech G15 USB Gaming Keyboard w/LCD
PROCESSOR Intel Core 2 Duo Processor E6400 at 2.13GHz, 1066MHz FSB, 2M CacheRIG Vigor PALADIN Screwless Chassis (B/O) - FREE UPGRADE to Cooler Master MYSTIQUE 632 RIG COLOR Platinum Silver RIG STYLE Oval Window with top vent - PALADIN only RIG COOLING Vigor Cool BlastTM Air Vent with Dual 90MM and 80MM (Top) Case Fan RIG POWER Standard AMD/Intel Certified 500 Watt Power Supply RIG DIMENSIONS 8.00" Width X 20.00" Depth X 18.00" Height. MB CORE LOGIC Asus P5N-E-SLI NVIDIA nForce 650i SLI INTEL Quad Core Ready MEMORY 2GB Corsair PC2-5300 DDR2 667MHz Memory (2 X 1024MB) HARD DRIVE 1 250GB S-ATA II 7200 RPM Hard Drive HARD DRIVE 2 None. RAID SETTING None. VIDEO CARD (SLI SLOT 1) nVidia GeForce 8800 GTS 320MB DDR3 @500MHz, DVI and TV Out VIDEO CARD (SLI SLOT 2) None. OPTICAL DRIVE 1 NEC Internal AD7170A 18X Dual Layer DVD+/- RW + CDRW Rewritable Drive OPTICAL DRIVE 2 None. RECORDING SOFTWARE Ahead Nero 6 OEM Suite DVD/CD RW Software SOUND Digital High Definition 3D 7.1 8-Channel Sound NETWORK PORT Onboard Gigabit (10/100/1000Mbps) PCI Network Card WIRELESS NETWORK PORT None. I/O PORTS 1 Parallel, 1 Game/Midi, 1 IEEE 1394 Firewire and 10 USB ports MONITOR Viewsonic VA710B 17" 1280X1024 350:1 8ms LCD Monitor SPEAKERS Logitech X230 2.1 3-Channel Speakers w/Subwoofer KEYBOARD None. MOUSE Microsoft Black IntelliMouse Optical 3 Button Wheel Mouse FLOPPY DRIVE None. OPERATING SYSTEM Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition SP2 w/Original Disc SERVICE Standard 3 Year Limited Parts and Life-Time Labor Warranty STORAGE MEDIA CD Recordable Media 50 CD Spindle SOFTWARE BUNDLE Microsoft Works 8.5 ADDITIONAL SOFTWARE None.

[Gawain of Orkeny]

I thought you were going to build it yourself? This is the price for an already built system no? Im sure you could get those parts for less than that seperately.

Dont you guys have local computer shops around there with Geeks who will build any pc you want and will order any part you want? Best thing is to make a budget and then try to find the best parts for what you want to do. Dont take any packages as theres usually something in there that isnt up to snuff. Again if you can build it yourslef why pay to have it built by someone else with parts you may not want?

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

I don't have the expertise to build it myself, and I'm not in an area big enough to have a local shop do it for me. The closest place where I can get that done is not exactly a short drive away.

Could you (or anyone for that matter) recommend a specific list of parts that I've compiled?

[Gawain of Orkeny]

Could you (or anyone for that matter) recommend a specific list of parts that I've compiled?

Well I gave you the precise list of what I have and where to get it and for how much. Remember its under 1400 and that includes a 22 inch $350 monitor. All the stuff in the tower comes to about $1000. Like I said I did a lot of research before choosing those parts. I have absolutely no complaints about this pc. Running Oblivion with HDR settings is a trip.

[Daman]

for those looking for a new pc, go here https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...73#post1500273

it comes with a free copy of MTW2 and a 22 inch asus monitor brand new! Amazing deal!