On this site: http://www.euratlas.com/summary.htm
[thx to LordStephen, a guy on .Com) I have found some good maps of Medieval Europe.
Really kewl.
I am posting here the map of 1200, which is kinda the 'best' one for generalising this era of Medieval Europe. There are much more on that site. Finally we can clear some doubts on peoples/kingdoms/factions.
Tera
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Note on Roman Empire.
At a time the old roman empire was divided into the Western and Eastern roman empire. The Eastern Empire was also called Byzantinium.
The Western empire died out, while the Eastern continued to exist until the Ottomans came in...
During 1200, only the Eastern part existed so it's just called "Roman Empire". In other words, the "Roman Empire" are the Byzantines
Cheers,
Tera
P.S.
I think we can now conclude that 'germany' is represented in the Holy Roman Empire. Period.
EDIT: The Islamic Almohad are mainly the Moors then. The Moors controlled part of Southern Spain until the Reconquista of Spain under Isabella and Ferdinand of Aragon.
Those Moors who remained in Spain had been forced to become Christians and were known as the Moriscoes. Later on they caused trouble (revolts, rebellions against the racism and discrimination towards them) and were exiled from Spain along with the Jews.
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[This message has been edited by Terazawa Tokugawa (edited 01-02-2002).]
That's a beautiful map Tera.BTW where is the mighty kingdom of Malta
Is it that little pair of islands just south of Sicily and north of the Emirate of the Beni Ghaniya?
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Gah
See the map of 1500 +
Malta was under Sicily at those times. And Sicily was later under Spain. Malta was under Spain. Then Knights of St John came (see map 1600) and took over.
In M:TW I believe Malta will be first part of the Italy faction and later Christian Spain. Or either one of those ronin islands.
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Gah! Terazawa!
Thank you so much ... Krast has been wanting such maps for many years.
Also, thank you for the 'Gah!' that makes Krast smile.
Gah! Long live Terazawa!
Quote Originally posted by Terazawa Tokugawa:
Note on Roman Empire.
At a time the old roman empire was divided into the Western and Eastern roman empire. The Eastern Empire was also called Byzantinium.
The Western empire died out, while the Eastern continued to exist until the Ottomans came in...
During 1200, only the Eastern part existed so it's just called "Roman Empire". In other words, the "Roman Empire" are the Byzantines
Cheers,
Tera
P.S.
I think we can now conclude that 'germany' is represented in the Holy Roman Empire. Period.
EDIT: The Islamic Almohad are mainly the Moors then. The Moors controlled part of Southern Spain until the Reconquista of Spain under Isabella and Ferdinand of Aragon.
Those Moors who remained in Spain had been forced to become Christians and were known as the Moriscoes. Later on they caused trouble (revolts, rebellions against the racism and discrimination towards them) and were exiled from Spain along with the Jews.
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GAH! The Byzantines never referred to themselves by that name. They called themselves Romans, as did their contemporaries. The term 'Byzantine' is one that we have given them in modern times to differentiate them from their predecessors, the TRUE roman empire.
But... yeah, the 'Roman' empire on the map is what we could call the Byzantine Empire...
[Sips sake, eats popcorn]
Good map. This shoUld mean we shold see a lot more provinces in the full game than stw.
[This message has been edited by LordTed (edited 01-03-2002).]
I like the map...just makes me want to play the game even more.
Cyprus was a part of the Byzantine empire!!!
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lordted,
i think not only shld we see more provinces, but we shld also see changing provinces. those borders moved around a lot during those 400 years.
K.
edit: what the heck? how did this get strung out into one long line? hope this edit fixes it.
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[This message has been edited by Kraellin (edited 01-03-2002).]
The map widens the post widt Krae.
Tera
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oh i hope i can get to play the bulgarians
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Hirosito Mori
Gentile or Jew
O you who turn the wheel and look to windward,
Consider Phlebas, who was once handsome and tall as you.
Hirosito Mori
Hirosito the Baptist of the Babbiest Babe Thread.
Gentile or Jew
O you who turn the wheel and look to windward,
Consider Phlebas, who was once handsome and tall as you.
Oh I can't wait to play as the Principality of Pereyaslavl.... oh no wait they aren't gonna be in it! Damn it! I was all ready for it.
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"non nobis Domine non nobis sed Nomine tuo da gloriam"
Quote Originally posted by Kraellin:
lordted,
edit: what the heck? how did this get strung out into one long line? hope this edit fixes it.
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The picture has extended the width of the page
so all lines will be printed as wide as the
picture unless you use enter.
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Pape for global overlord!!
toda you weren't making fun of me or the bulgarians were you
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Hirosito Mori
Gentile or Jew
O you who turn the wheel and look to windward,
Consider Phlebas, who was once handsome and tall as you.
Hirosito Mori
Hirosito the Baptist of the Babbiest Babe Thread.
Gentile or Jew
O you who turn the wheel and look to windward,
Consider Phlebas, who was once handsome and tall as you.
I think he's just interested in history Hirosito.
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I want to be little poland! (strange it looks bigger than great poland)
The map looks very accurate. I can find prints of old maps of Cyprus and maybe Greece or Byzantine empire if you guys like.
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Excellent site,
This is the one I use on the shades web site.
If I find any more I'll let u all know.
ShadesWolf
The Original HHHHHOWLLLLLLLLLLLLER
Im a Wolves fan, get me out of here......
There is also this one
http://www.culturalresources.com/Maps.html#medieval
ShadesWolf
The Original HHHHHOWLLLLLLLLLLLLER
Im a Wolves fan, get me out of here......
GAH! When I get around to playing the Greeks, my first order of business will be to change the name of the kingdom to 'Grease'.
[Sips sake, eats popcorn]
There won't be any Greeks mate! Byzantine empire is the closest thing to Greeks you shall find there. Greeks rule :P
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Don't use only honour, use theforce, too.
http://lod.nipogames.com/default.html
I cannot return l presume so l will keep my name among those who are dead by bows!
http://www.dedicatedgaming.com/~angelsofdarkness
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