Empire: Total War Summary Thread

[woad&fangs]

I don't see why they don't extend the end date to the late 1800s. I don't think warfare changed too much until WWI when multi-shot rifles came into the picture, but I'm no expert I could be wrong.

A great deal of military advancement happened in the American Civil War so I think the latest they could go would be about the 1850's.

[Mouzafphaerre]

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Confirmed:

- Real-Time 3D Naval Warfare

If this aint no reason for BIG celebration, nothing is! Away for a couple months and CA surprises with my greatest wish in a TW. I'm happy!
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[Caius]

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If this aint no reason for BIG celebration, nothing is! Away for a couple months and CA surprises with my greatest wish in a TW. I'm happy!
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Welcome Mouza to the TW.org! I know some members will be happy to know that you are alive!

[Mouzafphaerre]

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LOL! Thanks mate.
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[Boyar Son]

1700-1800

meaning 4 turns per year?

[derfinsterling]

I highly doubt CA will ever make the Civil War for the TW series regardless. With only two main factions, the American Civil War wouldn't translate very well to the TW style of play.

Wouldn't need to be two factions, though. If it's done like Kingdoms, with one "mod" among others, you could have:

USA and CSA, are of course set, but you could have various allied states representing the border-wars of kansas and missouri and the like.

British, French, Prussians (as allies for one of the two Americas)
Mexicans threatening the South after the Civil War has settled in 1861. Just imagine if Juarez wouldn't have served as President and/or the French came a little sooner...

And of course: Indians! The Cherokee in the South, the Sioux in the North... Claiming indepence from the paleskins.

Not necessarily 100% accurate, but I'd play that. ;)

[Vuk]

Nappy will be in. You may want to add that.

[lancelot]

I highly doubt CA will ever make the Civil War for the TW series regardless. With only two main factions, the American Civil War wouldn't translate very well to the TW style of play.

Not necesarily, a part of the problem of the US civil war was strategy had not evolved much since napoleonic times, generals were still modelling themselves on such men- having one arm in their coat etc etc.

Close order combat was still the norm- the problem was that while strategy and tactics had not evolved the weapons had- meaning that ranges were a lot longer in the ACW. You needed close order to have a chance of hitting anything in napoleonic times. Hence casulaties were much higher.

Combat-wise, Id say you could take the game to about the ACW times- not that much later tho. Of course- politically and map wise, perhaps not.

[Alexander the Pretty Good]

By the end of the ACW there was rather complex trench warfare.

[paladinwarir]

Wow, that looks like a really cool game, i know im going to get that when it comes out

[A Norseman]

A thing i am shure off is that the CA have two options for expantion "naplonic wars" and "american civil war" .. well, as a Europeean i dont give a crap about your war, and wuld much more have a realy fun campain as the british defending my borders from the french, or french allie Denmark - Norway depending on the french sucsess in the war for my own suvival.

[Martok]

Combat-wise, Id say you could take the game to about the ACW times- not that much later tho. Of course- politically and map wise, perhaps not.

It is indeed the political/diplomatic aspect that'd prevent CA from making an American Civil War game/expansion. (I concede that the combat itself could be interesting.) With only two primary factions -- the Union & Confederacy -- an ACW:TW game would be pretty boring.

A thing i am shure off is that the CA have two options for expantion "naplonic wars" and "american civil war" .. well, as a Europeean i dont give a crap about your war, and wuld much more have a realy fun campain as the british defending my borders from the french, or french allie Denmark - Norway depending on the french sucsess in the war for my own suvival.

As an American of primarily Scandanavian descent (Syttende Mai is a major celebration in my mom's hometown), I'll assume you meant no offense by your words.

In any case, I largely agree with your assessment -- a Total War title based on the American Civil War would be extremely uninteresting to me. Not that I don't find the Civil War boring in & of itself, but (as I've said before and will continue to do so) it's a period that doesn't lend itself well to the TW-style of gameplay.

[A Norseman]

http://shoguntotalwar.yuku.com/topic/21848
Dont know if this have been posted before, nice little heap of info there

And yea, i did not mean any offence to americans, i youst dont care enogh about their internal wars to buy a game about it.

[Caius]

http://shoguntotalwar.yuku.com/topic/21848

DSunno if thius have been posted before, nice little heap of info there

Thats a lot of info!

pever, update the first post.

Is this info oficially?

[RoadKill]

I didn't care much about this game, as I thought it was just gonna be another failure, but I was bored and stumbled in here, and holy !@#!@ I want to get this, the ideas and stuff sound amazing, dang I can't wait till this comes out, I'm hyped.

[Csargo]

A great deal of military advancement happened in the American Civil War so I think the latest they could go would be about the 1850's.

I'm not very good with technical parts, but what advancements? I've read that there is going to be earth walls in the game, which I assume is basically a trench.

[Anonymous II]

1700-1800

meaning 4 turns per year?

That would have been great in terms of seasons and all. But 400 turns? That would be a loong campaign.

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

I'm not very good with technical parts, but what advancements? I've read that there is going to be earth walls in the game, which I assume is basically a trench.

Gatling guns, small unit tactics, and balloon reconnaissance, to name a few. Much changed on both tactical and technical aspects of warfare.

[Sheogorath]

Gatling guns, small unit tactics, and balloon reconnaissance, to name a few. Much changed on both tactical and technical aspects of warfare.

Gatling guns and small unit tactics are pretty out of the scope from what I've heard. 1700-1820, right?
Gatling guns were first used seriously just after the American Civil War. Small unit tactics came a little bit before, but I gather that the idea of this game is grand musket battles, and that we wont be seeing a significant rifle presence, which is what you need for small unit tactics to work.

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

Gatling guns and small unit tactics are pretty out of the scope from what I've heard. 1700-1820, right?
Gatling guns were first used seriously just after the American Civil War. Small unit tactics came a little bit before, but I gather that the idea of this game is grand musket battles, and that we wont be seeing a significant rifle presence, which is what you need for small unit tactics to work.

Yes, I was talking about why the American Civil War couldn't be included, as tactics and weaponry changed over that time frame.

[rajpoot]

Crazy crazy, I'm going to get crazy waiting till september next year, I don't know how'll I pass the time, maybe by reading all these threads over and over again
Anyway, does anybody know what might be the approximate system requirements for this game?

[Vuk]

Crazy crazy, I'm going to get crazy waiting till september next year, I don't know how'll I pass the time, maybe by reading all these threads over and over again
Anyway, does anybody know what might be the approximate system requirements for this game?

No, but one can guess from the screenshots. Probably, lots of RAM, good vid card(s), lots of processor speed, etc.

[Warluster]

Here is eom new info if it hasn't been posted: New ETW Info

[Defender]

Wouldn't need to be two factions, though. If it's done like Kingdoms, with one "mod" among others, you could have:

USA and CSA, are of course set, but you could have various allied states representing the border-wars of kansas and missouri and the like.

British, French, Prussians (as allies for one of the two Americas)
Mexicans threatening the South after the Civil War has settled in 1861. Just imagine if Juarez wouldn't have served as President and/or the French came a little sooner...

And of course: Indians! The Cherokee in the South, the Sioux in the North... Claiming indepence from the paleskins.

Not necessarily 100% accurate, but I'd play that. ;)

The American Civil War was mostly about the Union and the Confederacy. What most people do not realize that in that period the west was being colonised. One of the main reasons the war broke out was the question if slavery should be abolished or approved in the Wild West. The Union said abolish and the CSA said approve.

Of course there were more factors that leaded to the conflict, but from an historical point of view, all states were seen as a seperate country. Hence the name Confederation. (wiki it if you need a defenition, compare it to Union and you see the difference).

Don't forget that the Mexican war, for instance, was fought only a few decades earlier (1846-1848 to be exact) or the Spanish-American war (1898) or the indian wars (intermittently from 1622-1890).

So factions should me more than enough, Union, Confederacy, New-Hispania, Mexico and several Native American tribes (wich should be enough, since M2TW:K campaigns only have about 5-10 factions each)

I will give no storylines, timelines whatsoever, I am just trying to make my point that a Civil War expansion (or In game Inclusion) is possible.

- Pierre

[Lorenzo_H]

I love this Period of history.

[KLAssurbanipal]

For members who can't wait for Empire TW I am making new mod. :)

SWEDEN UNITS (Part 1)

Cavalry:



Grenadier:



Musketeer:



Tomorrow: Russian Units - Part 1

[Vuk]

For members who can't wait for Empire TW I am making new mod. :)

SWEDEN UNITS (Part 1)

Cavalry:



Grenadier:



Musketeer:



Tomorrow: Russian Units - Part 1

Are it just a collection of units, or will it be a complete overhaul?

[Irish Soldier]

Can someone explain to me, exactly what you mean When you say the Campaign map will no longer be tiled?

[pevergreen]

At this point in time, the map is a grid. The Army/City/Boat occupies one grid. Thats like a giant chessboard. You can only go in certain tiles, and those tiles influence the battle map that they have. This is how you can surround an inquisitor with 8 stacks of 1 unit, then bring a final one on top of it. Because the enemy unit has no where to go, it is destroyed.


On another note, please, I asked in the original post: Can this thread be posted in with only information with sources.
I check this thread during school, and while i love the discussion and such, i would prefer another thread be started, and keep this one clean. If it gets worse, I may ask Tosa to clear a few posts, to keep this thread clean.

[rajpoot]

For members who can't wait for Empire TW I am making new mod. :)

SWEDEN UNITS (Part 1)

Cavalry:



Grenadier:



Musketeer:



Tomorrow: Russian Units - Part 1

Hallo, this for M2TW???? If yes, when can start downloading it?? I'm one the guys who can't wait for ETW!!!