1.0 Succession Game Discussion Thread

**Bootsiuv** · 10-11-2007, 23:16

OFFICIAL SSbQ SUCCESSION GAME INFORMATION

This game has been moved to a private forum which can be found HERE.

Those who aren't playing along, your welcome to join us there to read along, although most forums will be restricted to those in game only.

To all PLAYERS, Please sign in with your Guild Name i.e. your username which we all know you by here at the EB forum. This will enable me to better track who is still playing along and active. While I encourage you to include your ingame name as well (for example, my username is Mago (Bootsiuv)), it isn't required.

We will be playing as Safot Softim biQarthadast on the RTW v1.5 EB v1.0 platform.

We will be using a custom mini-mod made by Spoofa which can be found HERE

A back-up for MP players compiled by madmatg can be found HERE
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The Rules

1. The active gamemaster reserves the right to settle both in-game and out-of-game disagreements if they begin to affect the progression of the game. I also reserve the right to take away avatars for inactivity. If you're going to be inactive for a great length of time, please tell me in this thread. If you have a regular schedule which doesn't change, and you provide it to me, you will not be required to post every time you leave.

Being active will bring many rewards, so I encourage logging on once a day to check on the progression of the game, and make sure there is nothing which requires your attention.

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2. New members are welcome at all times. These new members must introduce themselves in this thread, so they can be assigned an avatar. DO NOT POST IN ANY OTHER SSbQ SUCCESSION GAME RELATED THREAD!!

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3. Only people who have been assigned avatars, whether they be in-game characters or 'senators' are allowed to post in other game related threads. ALL QUESTIONS FROM THOSE NOT PLAYING THE GAME SHOULD BE POSTED IN THIS THREAD.

Please note: Non-game related posts in any thread but this one will be ignored, and requested to be erased by an available mod. In other words, if you would like to join the game or have any other questions or concerns, post those in this thread, and this thread only, if you desire a response.

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4. The current player is known as the Shophet, and is voted in via election. If no members decide to run, the gamemaster will take the term.

Please Note: You DO NOT need an in-game character to be Shophet. Therefore, Senators are allowed to run for office. I encourage anyone who would like to run for office to do so, but I will limit the number of incumbents to 3 for now, on a first come-first serve basis. If, and when, we recieve more players, this number may be increased.

4a. Terms are 8 turns i.e. 2 years per.

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5 Emergency Council meetings must be called by the Shophet for the following situations:

- Declaration of War on Safot Softim biQarthadast by another faction.
- Shopet wishes to declare war due to developing in game factors, but this war was not voted on at the previous council meeting.
- Certain building projects
- Space reserved; Idea pending

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6. THE SHOPHET MUST SAVE THE GAME EVERY TURN. I CANNOT STRESS THIS ENOUGH. An unfortunate caveat of EB succession games, and required for reasons too complicated to go into in any great detail right here, but it involves a nasty CtD that players of the KH Succession Game discovered firsthand.

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End Rules

Bootsiuv
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The original post, for the sake of completeness.

Originally Posted by Bootsiuv

1.0 is here!!!

It's time to start discussing our future succession game. It may take a few days to get up and running, and I assume there will be no mini-mods available when we begin.

So we'll likely be playing 'vanilla' EB 1.0 (even though there's nothing vanilla about EB, you get the point).

This is a thread where all players in the community who are interested can chime in, and hopefully we can gleam some good ideas.

Please note: There will be rules and timetables in this game. There will be in-character threads that should stay in-character, etc. etc.

These are just some ideas I have concerning the next game we decide to play.

I'm thinking Safot Softim biQarthadast is the best choice, but what do YOU think?

I'd like to know.

Here's to good times conquering the world together.

Bootsiuv

*Even I am not above the rules in this game. I will add various checks to gamemaster power. This is mostly as a back-up in case this game lasts a long time, and for some unforeseen reason, I am no longer able to carry on and must pass my duties as gamemaster to someone else. I don't foresee this happening, but, at least it will ensure the game goes on with or without me.

**Spoofa** · 10-12-2007, 01:59

Lusotannia, lets go to ireland and conquer the british isles together!! yaaaaay!

...

seriously though I think carthage would be cool.

**pezhetairoi** · 10-12-2007, 02:43

eH? what is this succession game? Though if you asked me the faction we should be playing should be the Arverni :D

**Poulp'** · 10-12-2007, 02:43

Pontus !

well, anything as long as it's not the AS; I don't like managing an whole empire right from the start, especially when I didn't conquer it myself.

I volunteer

**Bootsiuv** · 10-12-2007, 02:49

Good, I'm glad to see some new faces.

At Pezhetaroi, look at the Council of the Koinon Hellenon if you really don't know what a succession game is.

**Spoofa** · 10-12-2007, 03:14

Averni? gah, no. Aedui plz.

**Bootsiuv** · 10-12-2007, 03:31

Well, we'll have to come to an agreement although I encourage intelligent discussion.

I think we should go with Safot Softim biQarthadast because it controls such different areas of the map....different people will want troops sent to different theaters i.e. A sicilian governor will want troops sent to Sicily, while an Iberian governor will want those same troops for southern Iberia. It would be pretty cool to debate and vote on which areas are reinforced, and where are most important infrastructure is placed.

Sounds very interesting, if we all stick to the plan i.e. stay in character in the 'in-character' thread.

We also might consider putting our ingame names under our avatar.

**Xehh II** · 10-12-2007, 03:42

I was wondering if I could join this one since I didn't join the last one, I don't care what faction, as long as it's not Barbarian.
BTW, I won't get 1.0 for 3 days so could you please wait for me?

**Bootsiuv** · 10-12-2007, 03:48

We won't be starting for at least 4-5 days....discussions will take place 48 hours before we even begin the first turns, and I don't plan on putting up the council thread for 3 days.

So you're good, bro.

**madmatg** · 10-12-2007, 05:28

im also up for anyone

**EasternScourge** · 10-12-2007, 05:31

I'm in the same boat as Xehh II.I won't be avaible for 3-4 days.Anyways,I'm fne with Carthage,though prepare for me to mess up as I have yet to play as them in EB.Now,what will we do for rules and such concerning ruling cities?Does the faction leader control the building,or would the governor choose the buildings (I assume armies are still under the faction leader control).

Also,are we going to use those civil-war ideas I sent you a while back, or are not going to do that.I'm assuming we will discuss this all and more though.

**Bootsiuv** · 10-12-2007, 06:03

Originally Posted by EasternScourge

Now,what will we do for rules and such concerning ruling cities?

I was thinking, that since we'll probably have almost enough characters for everyone at the start, governors will choose buildings in their provinces.

This sounds complicated, but the council could determine which provinces deserve what % of the treasury, and then the governors could decide what should be built in their provinces.

Armies recruited in lands with Type I and II gov's will be under the Shophets control. Armies recruited in lands with Type III and IV gov's will be controlled by the governor i.e. he tells the player by pm where he wants the army in his land to go.

Governors can declare war on armies encroaching on their territory without permission from the council, but armies invading foreign lands are controlled by the council, and the leading general will be chosen by the Shophet.

I plan on taking ideas I like from everyone and drawing up a constitution, so everyone knows what they can and cannot do.

As for the civil war, it might be a little ahistorical for Carthage, as they never really experienced a civil war as such, only revolting mercenaries.

All ideas are possible though. I'd like to hear some of your guys' ideas....

**Xehh II** · 10-12-2007, 06:29

So, is Carthage set? I don't think I would do well as Carthage.

**Bootsiuv** · 10-12-2007, 09:43

It isn't set per se, but we will have to come to a conclusion in the next 72 hours, and I think most people have said that Carthage is acceptable.

Why would you not do well? I think you should give it a whirl. Carthage is pretty good. We would just have to try and avoid an eary war with Romani....maybe I'll make you a governor of an island so you won't be messed with.

Here's a question for you guys....what do you think about playing on the BI.exe? It's no big deal if the majority don't want to, but it makes for a more interesting game with the increased naval invasions.

**pezhetairoi** · 10-12-2007, 10:10

Hmm, BI.exe. has screwed up my game muchly (see the roman_forts thread in the bug reports). RomeTW gives me the most stable gameplay, and I would go for RTW.exe. For the record, I'm perfectly okay with the Qarthadastim. If it comes down to assigning of governorships, do give me Trinakrie ;-) I'll be wanting a shot at them Romani with the Syrakousiai Hoplitai and assorted other units.

**Spoofa** · 10-12-2007, 13:04

no way man! Hamilicar is mine for the taking!

**Poulp'** · 10-12-2007, 14:57

Carthage's fine with me.
As is playing any character.

I have a few questions too.

Does someone know how Carthage's government worked ? Historically speaking.
From what I recall, it was a republic with the same kind of governement than Rome (a house of elected rich citizenry I mean)
Knowing a bit more should help me to get in the mood.

What will be the unit size ? Can game options be changed from one computer to another ? (screen size, graphic details, etc...)

Who should play the inter turn battles ? If I remember correctly, there had been problems with this in the Council of KH.

I propose a house rule: when the faction leader reach age 50 and/or he settles to go to war in person, we should hold an election to choose the heir among the best candidate at that time (sure, a lot of in game characters will be pissed, but, hey that's politics)

Another proposition, if a in-forum character turns out to be a compassionate governor, concerned with the welfare of his subjects, he might get some traits representing this in-game.
Or, you can turn it the other way around, an in-game warmonger should be role played accordingly on the forum.

that's all for now

I have yet to dl the 1.0 version, I'm still busy with cleaning my CPU and making space on my HD

I might cancel myself out if I see my CPU is lagging me to death

**Basileus Seleukeia** · 10-12-2007, 15:06

Downloading EB 1.0 right now and I hope it will run kinda smooth on my laptop... it's a lame duck which is even slower than my 5 year old PC (1.7 GHZ Dual core, so 90% of the time it only uses 1.7, whereas my old pc has 2.1... that really sucks.) If it runs at a manageable level, I'll declare myself to you.

**Sakkura** · 10-12-2007, 15:29

Originally Posted by Xehh II

I was wondering if I could join this one since I didn't join the last one, I don't care what faction, as long as it's not Barbarian.
BTW, I won't get 1.0 for 3 days so could you please wait for me?

Quisque est barbarus alio.

**Teacher** · 10-12-2007, 15:39

I would like to join as well, I have no preference, how do you plan to deal with commanders for the fleet, would that character board the fleet and stay with it at all times, or would you assign fleets to the army generals, I would love to command the fleet, or some squandrons.

I will have 1.0 by tomorrow morning.

**Xehh II** · 10-12-2007, 17:25

Originally Posted by Bootsiuv

Here's a question for you guys....what do you think about playing on the BI.exe? It's no big deal if the majority don't want to, but it makes for a more interesting game with the increased naval invasions.

I don't have BI.

Originally Posted by Sakkura

Quisque est barbarus alio.

What does that mean?

**Strategos Alexandros** · 10-12-2007, 17:27

"Everyone is a barbarian to someone"

**pezhetairoi** · 10-12-2007, 17:42

Hamilcar is MINE! Heyy. We could have a civil war all by ourselves over this. ;-)

**Strategos Alexandros** · 10-12-2007, 17:51

Could I join when you get started? I'm just about to install 1.0. If we are still choosing a faction I vote Carthage.

**Bootsiuv** · 10-12-2007, 18:41

More new faces....this is good. I think we'll just stick with R:TW v1.5, it was just a thought, but if all players don't have access to BI, then I'll cut that idea out right now. We don't disclude here.