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    Default EB installation validation

    Prompted by the many seemingly corrupt installs, I've created a program to check whether your RTW/EB is like my own, which works on my computer. It's automatically installed along with EB, and you'll find it in your RTW directory. Run the validateInstall batch file. You'll need java runtime installed though.

    Let me know here if when you find a problem with this program. DO NOT post the results of your scan here, do that in your own help thread.

    There are a number of different things people have done to make their troublesome installations work. I suggest that if your installation does not work, that you try all of these. Please copy this checklist into your help thread when you create it, marking the ones you've tried so far.
    _ Using a nocd crack? Your game won't work, use the original executable instead. There is no point in trying the rest of the list until you install a fresh, clean 1.5 RTW.
    _ The validation turns up with a blank Notepad document on Vista? Try to get this altered validation which stores the results directly on the C: disk, where it should be allowed by Vista. You need to unpack it in the RTW folder where you installed EB.
    _ Running Windows 7? Take a look at a good thread with problems and solutions found by those who went before you.
    _ Missing a file called MSS32.DLL, or the game complains about 3D audio or the sound database? Get this file and put it in your RTW folder.
    _ Install RTW and EB once again, from scratch
    _ Install using 7-zip rather than installer
    _ Download a map.rwm file and place it in eb/data/world/maps/base (requires both the disaster and Oppida permanent fixes)
    _ Add -nm to the shortcut. This disables movies. Using an NVidia 8xxx graphics card? No movies for you, you will probably HAVE to add this switch. If you have installed the Trivial Script, you will not have to change the shortcut, but rather just tick the box that disables movies.
    _ Add -ne to the shortcut (and in combination with -nm too). This makes the game windowed. No idea why this would work, but in one case it did.
    _ Delete some interfering files that Vista hides in its bowels. These are reported to be in C:\Users\<your username>\AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Program Files\Activision\Rome - Totalwar, at least in one instance where it helped.
    _ For Vista users, install RTW and EB in a folder outside of "program files". This means changing the default location! You can also try to simply move the RTW installation, but you may be missing some files, so installation is the safest bet.
    _ Run the validation tool to diagnose the problem
    _ Install the fixes linked in my sig.
    _ Extract this archive into your <RTW>/EB/Data folder. It will disable the Greek voicemod, but has proven to make the mod work for at least one user (a very patient one at that).
    _ Add more swap space in Windows, and other technical measures you can take
    _ Using RTW Gold, or an installation otherwise including Barbarian Invasion or Alexander? Try to uninstall everything and install RTW without BI and Alex (remember to patch it to 1.5 if installing from the non-gold RTW disc set).
    _ Got an ATI Radeon X700 graphics card? Apparently some setting called "Support DXT textures format" is creating problems. Try to change this setting for the driver called "Support DXT textures format". Try it if you've got any ATI card, really.
    _ Try to upgrade your graphics drivers. If it still doesn't work, try to downgrade them.
    _ For ATI graphics cards: I'm currently using 6-10_xp-2k_dd_36790.exe as my driver, and have no problems. Downgrading to this has helped at least one other person to get EB to work. Another reports that ATI Catalyst 9.3 fixes his issues.
    _ Using Nero Burning ROM? This interferes with RTW. You need to either uninstall (which is easiest) or find and rename Nero's NeVideo.ax and NeAudio.ax files.
    _ Check that vanilla RTW works (before or after installing EB). If it doesn't, your problem is not with EB.
    _ Validation tool says that you are missing patch_1.pak (or something similar)? Get this file and extract it in <RTW>/data/packs.
    _ Try to copy the settings found here into both <RTW>/EB/preferences/player.txt and <RTW>/EB/preferences/preferences.txt.
    Last edited by bovi; 12-27-2009 at 16:19.

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    Default Re: EB installation validation

    Updated. Those of you whose installation crashes before starting a campaign, please have a go at it.

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    How works this tool? I've extracted the zip into the Rome-Total War directory, I've run the ValidateInstall program and then tells me that there isn't any file called ebValidationResults, and then asks me if I wish to create one. This tool must work as this?

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    Default Re: EB installation validation

    It is supposed to compare your files to those of my installation, and write the things that are different to that file, then open that file with Notepad. Do you see any such file after you've run it?

    Perhaps it is not allowed to write into that folder?

    Edit: OR, more likely, you haven't got Java installed. Please download that from java.sun.com.

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    I've installed Java, I've copied all the archives that were in the zip to the Rome - Total War folder (now with BI, Alexander, and EB 1.0.), and then I've tried to execute "eb.jar", but an error window apears with the title "Java Virtual Machine Launcher" saying "Failed to load Main-Class manifest attribute from D:\Archivos de programa\Rome - Total War\eb.jar".
    If I execute "validateInstall.bat" a window with title "D:\WINDOWS\system32\cmd.exe" and saying "D:\Archivos de programa\Rome - Total War>java -cp eb.jar europabarbarorum/ValidateInstall".
    If this tool runs I will be able to play EB 1.0. without any trouble?
    What must I do for this tool runs in my pc?

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    Default Re: EB installation validation

    Yes, it's the bat file you must run. It will run for a couple of minutes and open the Notepad to display the results.

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    OK, I've executed "evaluationInstall.bat" and, after few minutes, a notepad window appears, containing the following:

    "You seem to have a corrupt install. There are changes to files, or some are missing.
    However, these may be conscious changes you have made, to remod EB. See below for details."

    And then, a long list of "Missing files" and another list of "Added files".

    OK, there all right. But when I run EB 1.0. and I try to load a battle or a campaign, it CTD, like before.

    Must I do anything else to solve this problem?

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    Default Re: EB installation validation

    Like the other guy who just posted, you encountered the bug that the path comparison was case sensitive. I've updated it a minute ago, please download the validator once more and try again.

    Oh, and the validator will not fix the installation, it will tell you what files could be the problem.

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    If it's as you say... what must I do? Reinstalling RTW Gold? I've the DVD, but there's a little problem: it's literally broken by the middle... don't ask about it, a day it was out of the game case and out of the DVD-reader, I didn't see it and... crash! It became broken.

    The "Added file" lines are the files that must not be in RTW folder and the "Missing file" lines are the files that must be there but don't?
    Last edited by FalkyMrsWilliams; 10-14-2007 at 18:38.

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    Some feedback on the tool: my installation of EB 1.0 runs just fine, the validation tool however indicates that I'm missing a lot of files. Most of these files are .rum files: I don't know what they are but I don't have any .rum file in my RTW directory, so I'm guessing the validator should skip them. Same for the bookmarks.rcb files and version.inf. Here's the contents of my ebValidationResults.txt:
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    Code:
    You seem to have a corrupt install. There are changes to files, or some are missing.
    However, these may be conscious changes you have made, to remod EB. See below for details.
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    Missing file: .\data\models_unit\barb_female_peasant_100.rum
    Missing file: .\data\models_unit\barb_female_peasant_200.rum
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    Missing file: .\version.inf
    Changed file: .\eb\data\world\maps\campaign\imperial_campaign\descr_strat.txt
    That last line is correct, I changed the brigand spawn rate a bit.

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    Thanks. While I don't know exactly what the rum files do, I know those concern vanilla unit models. I don't expect the model files to make any difference, and your result confirms it. The custom battles should definitely not make any difference. You can make the tool ignore them by adding .\data\models_unit and .\data\world\maps\battle\custom as lines in ebIgnoreList.txt.

    I wonder why my installation has the rum files when many others don't. I've installed 1.0, patched to 1.2 then patched to 1.5. Perhaps that makes a difference to people who have installed RTW Gold.

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    I don't have the gold edition either. I installed RTW 1.0, patched to 1.3 and 1.5 and installed EB 1.0. I did not start vanilla RTW however (I know, I know) to check whether that was working. Perhaps the .rum files are generated when you do startup (vanilla) RTW?

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    That might be. I'm fairly sure I played vanilla on all those patch levels. I've kept them around to have clean ones ready to copy for another mod, but running the game could make it generate or unpack those.

    I notice that the version.inf contains some garbage connected with RTW 1.2, so I'll add that too to the ignorelist:
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    [Version Info]
    ExtVersion=1.2
    IntVersion=54.0
    Language=255
    Branch=0.0
    QA=3615

    [Product Info]
    Platform=PC
    Product=Rome: Total War
    Last edited by bovi; 10-14-2007 at 20:06.

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    New version available that ignores the vanilla models_unit, custom battles and version.inf.

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    why check the vanilla data folder at all? If it is a corrupt install wouldn't the problem lie in the EB folder only?

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    Exclamation Re: EB installation validation

    For two whole days I have been trying to find an answer for my EB 1 CTDs ,
    I have posted this on TWC forums, but, I will do it again here .
    My prob is only the CTDs when I chose to play with a faction, custom and historic battles, when I go next I am out of the game with no message.
    So I look here and I used program that Bovi made and I got this:
    Changed file: .\rometw.exe


    What do I do to play EB 1 ????

    thank you for your time

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foot
    why check the vanilla data folder at all? If it is a corrupt install wouldn't the problem lie in the EB folder only?

    Foot
    Definitely not. The most likely scenario is that they have installed in something that is not a clean 1.5 RTW. As long as the installer runs, it will have verified its own integrity and should therefore always give an intact installation, except for some of our Chinese friends apparently.

    Maksimus:
    Quote Originally Posted by me
    Let me know here if when you find a problem with this program. DO NOT post the results of your scan here, do that in your own help thread.

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    Bovi, I ran that updated version, and now the results are down to:
    Code:
    You seem to have a corrupt install. There are changes to files, or some are missing.
    However, these may be conscious changes you have made, to remod EB. See below for details.
    ==========
    Changed file: .\eb\data\world\maps\campaign\imperial_campaign\descr_strat.txt
    Added file: .\eb\custom\previous battle.cbt
    Added file: .\temp\battle.rpy
    First file is correct, but those other two files are the result of me playing a custom battle (which I hadn't done when I first ran the validator). Might want to skip them too

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    Quote Originally Posted by bovi
    Definitely not. The most likely scenario is that they have installed in something that is not a clean 1.5 RTW. As long as the installer runs, it will have verified its own integrity and should therefore always give an intact installation, except for some of our Chinese friends apparently.

    Maksimus:
    I was able to play EB previous versions just fine, I dont see a reason why it should not work now? Unless there are some changes in the way EB 1 is installed onto my PC

    Thank you for you time
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    Thanks again Batahr .

    Maksimus: Create. Your. Own. Help. Thread.
    Last edited by bovi; 10-15-2007 at 06:27.

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    Ok,
    Sorry Bovi
    Just look at it so I now what to do.
    Thank you!
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    Just a side note, in RTW Gold RomeTW.exe is different and there is no Data\packs\patch_1.pak



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    Really? The exe is different? I've noticed that several are lacking the patch_1.pak (usually coupled with a changed descr_items.db), I was thinking it was a source of trouble. Thanks for the heads up.

    I'll need a full listing from a working Gold installation then, and I don't have it. Would you care to make it for me? Just add " createlist" to the end of the line in the batch file that starts with java and run it. The checklist will then be written with the checksums of your files, and you can post it here.

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    Here is a relevant extract of comparison results
    Code:
    Changed file: .\data\credits.txt (expected checksum 632aad51f3a61c5da34140e4fa28800b, got 66e963df496381fca94f82e3e254213f)
    Changed file: .\data\descr_items.db (expected checksum 05785f752f89ae7f82ffd4631ddafd2c, got 244bf4dbabea7646706611eaeabe6d56)
    Changed file: .\data\export_descr_advice.txt (expected checksum f29c56a6d711e3ebb70b855365500de8, got 97794093b86abe2d5ebab1920b9c3363)
    Changed file: .\data\fmv\atvi_spinning_logo_640x480.wmv (expected checksum 7e15895ba7a723535f55e4deb91c085b, got e9ac1729af2fdeffe8365a567cd76b23)
    Changed file: .\data\menu\splash.tga (expected checksum a57cc84af0e6c1300577336f17e0bfd6, got d1329cf835f69e6dff4b4cc0cb08d144)
    Changed file: .\rometw.exe (expected checksum de01375b675cbd95b7efcb745e72ead6, got 39713f522c9648bdfe582557313a59c2)
    Gold already contains BI so there is a lot of BI files reported
    Code:
    Added file: .\bi\data\animations\pack.dat
    ...
    Added file: .\bi\data\world\maps\campaign\barbarian_invasion\radar_map2.tga
    Added file: .\gamespy arcade.url
    Added file: .\icon.ico
    Added file: .\rometw-bi.exe
    The full checklist of the clean RTW Gold without EB is on http://uploaded.to/?id=gl3wt3
    Too long to post it on the forum :)

    Let me know if you need anything else



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    I think this will do, I'll just append the EB installation to it. Thanks !

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    In your list of solutions, you say to delete some "interfering files that Vista hides in its bowels." Could you please clarify, because I have all but given up downloading 1.0.

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    No, I can't because I don't have Vista. Some others with problems have found traces of EB/RTW/BI in some obscure places and deleted them, making the game work for them. If someone names the place these things are stored, I'll add it.

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    Can anyone give me a reason why EB wont work with BI in the RTW gold edition?
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    Some people have got it to work. I don't know why it doesn't in your case.

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    We did not develop EB to work with BI by default. Attempting to run the game with the BI installation is unsupported.

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