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    Quote Originally Posted by King Jan III Sobieski
    Thank you.

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    uhh.srry to say this but I think the Bavarians are Lutheran
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    Quote Originally Posted by kamikhaan
    Well, that would be because you ARE the villain here. You're the one bringing an army to invade me. I was just sitting over in my little corner of the world, minding my own business, when all of a sudden, I get word that the Ottomans are bringing an army with which to invade me. Now that wasn't very nice, now was it?
    Don't look at me, blame the worst part of the storyline. Is it possible to make peace than? I wanna get rid of the Genoans and Persians instead.

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    If you are willing to make peace, you can arrange the terms by PM then either declare it publicly or PM me if you want it done privately.

    It seems I've stuffed a fewthings up in the Currency section . kamikhaan, lets abolish the Dirham, if it exsisted it wouldn't do good trade as only a fewnations use. If you and the Empire make peace, the Tugra shall be used.

    @Caius, The Ecus will be included next chapter.

    It seems no one minds the new Economy part, I will draft up a few more rules on it and try and include it next chapter. The New Year brings much.
    Last edited by Baby Boomer; 12-28-2007 at 21:45.

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    Message from the Ottoman Sultan:

    "Sultan Achmed of the African Alliance, your words offend me, but as a fellow Muslim, I shall forgive you and your people. I apologise for the mischief I have caused recently and I assure you, I have no further intentions of invading your lands, I will withdraw all troops threatening your lands immediately and in return, please do the same."

    I know this is kind of stupid, but first of all, I joined here AFTER the Ottoman Sultan attacked the African Alliance. Second, I'm tired right now it's 2:00 AM so forgive me if you think I haven't put much of an effort on this speech.

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    The government of Scotland begs the Pope for a response, and wishes to once again to reiterate that we did not DISOBEY the Pope, we merely used extra time to prepare the ships for the bishops!!! Would it please your Holiness if our King gets whipped by monks? (Worked with Henry the Second, hopefully might work for me )


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiberius of the Drake
    uhh.srry to say this but I think the Bavarians are Lutheran
    The Bavarian leader had one too many meads that particular evening. He is now back to his right state of mind.

    The Bavarian Calvinist wish to show their support for their Scottish bretheren.

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    Er... one third of Scotland accepts your support, and the other two third says "keep your nose out of our country"!

    One third of Scotland is still begging for the Pope's forgiveness.


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    A Open Message From Rome

    We which to applaud Scotland's wise decision, and call off the Crusade, when the Bishops get here. I shall not call off any invaders until they arrive in Rome.

    We call to Genoa to stop their useless offensive against Venice. We also support Catholic Ireland in any planned invasions and ask if they need support, as of any other Catholic country.

    If Western France is in need of troops Rome is willing to provide them with some Swiss Guard for their siege of Rouen.



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    OOC: Happy new year for those who celebrate the New Year right now!
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    A Declaration of Guarantee

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    I would like to proclaim that my armies come to Italy as liberators of Venice, not their conquerors. We will not force our armies upon your people for supplies and threaten their lives like the Genoans. We are sending a large strike force to relieve the seige at Venice and hope to drive out the wretched Genoans out of Venetia. If we are successful, then Austria and Venice will become allies and partners who will drive out all that threaten the existance of freedom on Italian soil. Be prepared, Genoa, for if you do not heed the warnings against you; you will lose more than the territories you stole from the Venetians.


    Ferdinand I
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    King of Bohemia, Hungary, Croatia, and Slavonia


    And I would also support your decision to include more decisions about the economy and religious matters in the next chapter. It will make it a whole lot more fun and interactive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baby Boomer
    A Open Message From Rome
    We which to applaud Scotland's wise decision, and call off the Crusade, when the Bishops get here. I shall not call off any invaders until they arrive in Rome.

    We call to Genoa to stop their useless offensive against Venice. We also support Catholic Ireland in any planned invasions and ask if they need support, as of any other Catholic country.

    If Western France is in need of troops Rome is willing to provide them with some Swiss Guard for their siege of Rouen.



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    OOC: Happy new year for those who celebrate the New Year right now!
    Thank you thank you oh mighty Pope, all of the Bishops who wish to leave will leave (with escort!)


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    If Western France is in need of troops Rome is willing to provide them with some Swiss Guard for their siege of Rouen.
    Such help is greatly need, and it will be received, for the good of our tired soldiers who are resting in peace.




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    I still await orders from:
    The Kingdom of Bavaria (King Jan III Sobeski)
    The African Alliance (kamikhaan)

    The African Alliance is now pure Muslim. The new Persian map is going up tonight.

    If you didn't get a map with your orders or in the Chapter please always refer to the first post in this thread, I update the map very Chapter (As I have been doing)

    In that Map (I call it the Reference Map) the Red Dots show Battles, greensish show sieges, blue show blockades. I hope it helps. The Chapter will be posted when I am finshed writing the decisions, I shall not wait for either of the two. Remeber, miss sending your orders in two turns in a row, and severe consequences will mysteriously strike your nation.

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    Hold on a bit... I'm workin' on something.
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    Well, now that I'm safe from any attacks from the west, time to kill me some Persians and Genoans!

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    I have received PM's, and will be taken into account.

    kamikhaan's order have been sent (Well he didn't need to send them) King Jan III Sobeski, I am posting the Chapter when I come back online, you have 14 hours to submit before it expires.

    The new Europe Map is up, but try not to look at it just yet, its a bit too new. (:Everyone races to look at it:)

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    Open letter to the other catholic nations:

    To all catholic nations, I offer you reduced trade rights for your ships in all of Irelands ports if you grant my ships the same. I hope this becomes custom between catholic nations. It'll increase international trade and in turn strenghten our economies to withstand the threaths of todays' world.

    To Rome:
    We also support Catholic Ireland in any planned invasions and ask if they need support, as of any other Catholic country.
    I, am grateful for the support of Rome and what it represents. I, however, have no plans for an invasion whatsoever. I plan on spreading the one true fate by word rather than by sword. For this I need no support, though I thank you for the offer and hope the day will never come that I ask of you to honour this offer.

    To the Genoans:
    Stop your attack on fellow catholics and face east. This diminishing of border forces has played only in the cards of the wretched Turks. Like I said once before, we must tend to the enemies at the gates of fort Europe before we should squabble over who can own the keep.

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    We've made our walls sufficiently thick that we don't even hear the wet thuds of them bashing their brains against the outer wall and falling as lifeless corpses into our bottomless moat.

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    To the anglican Irishmen:

    I must demand you cease your resistance against the assimilation of Dublin and it's surroundings into the rest of Ireland.

    By now you must realise that no support will come for your cause. Scotland bows to Rome and England renounced its claim on you. Other, more distant nations that might be sympathetic have other far more pressings matters to attend to.

    You're blocked of, isolated, from the rest of the world. Irish ships and troops at sea and on land surround you from every side.

    The momentum of the Anglican faith into catholic lands has stopped and resistance is stirring everywhere. It won't be long before the brave men and women of Ireland take it on themselves to push you back into the sea from where you came.
    When that happens the bloodshed and loss will be immense. I'd rather not see this happen and thus give you a chance to surrender peacefully and with much to keep.

    Send an envoy as soon as possible so that we can start the negotiations.

    Gerald FitzGerald,
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    Someone has to watch over the wheat.
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    We've made our walls sufficiently thick that we don't even hear the wet thuds of them bashing their brains against the outer wall and falling as lifeless corpses into our bottomless moat.

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    Oh well, I am waiting for the next chapter.




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    Chapter IV
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    February 1st


    The situation in Europe, Middle East and North Africa is better. In North Italy, the war is not letting down. The Austrians fortify their precious and edgy positions in Bellarno and Bolzano. The Archduke quickly orders 10 000 troops to advance south from Innsbruck to supply reinforcements for the battered Invasion Force. Moments before they reach there they sight a large Genoese Army of 20 000 marching over the Alps from Milan, heading straight to siege Bolzano. The 10 000 strong army heads instantly for the city and reaches it before the Genoese. The Genoans siege the city and casualties are sustained, nothing serious. As some 3 000 are raised in Bellarno to reinforce the besiege city, Bolzano is struck by the force coming from Zagreb. The Army equals a small 5 000 and your General readies himself to smash their forces, who are strangely confident. A 10 000 strong force joins the one already their totaling 15 000. In further inspection, it is revealed they are Sicilian. Both of Austria’s newly gained territories are under siege by Christmas Eve. A day reasoned to be peaceful, the Genoans attempt to finish their siege of Bolzano by a bold assault against gun towers and trained Austrians soldiers. They are easily fought off after only two hours fighting, and lose 1 000 men. The Genoans are certain of victory and the Sicilian General leading the siege of Bellarno even holds a feast on Christmas night. The next day though, joyous news reaches the Archduke. His Task Force of 25 000 men had reached the edge of the Venice province and were nearly at Venice. At this news 5 000 break off the siege of Bolzano and 2 000 from Bellarno and early January reach Tierxio province. As they march to the aid of their other army in Venice they accidentally stumble across a camped 4 000 strong Austrian Army who were very alert. The Genoan Army hurriedly retreats then deploys in a favored position to attack the Austrians there, and then advance under the poor command of their General, they however, find, that the Austrians were gone and continued for Venice. They are sidetracked again, by the news that a 6 000 strong army has entered Genoan held Waline and assaulted the city. They set off again towards there under the comforting notion that their army near Venice could hold out. As they march there, they are ambushed. It was cleverly planned by one of Austria’s best Generals, Peter Ansbach. He effectively destroyed 5 000 of their force in a battle raging for at least one day.

    In Croatia though, a strong 50 000 Turkish army advances over the border and heads for Zagreb, while the Sultan agrees with a attack on the Knights in Rhodes, and a task force is raised, 30 000 strong, who are transported across the ocean and reach the small island of Rhodes. The part closer to Turkey is taken, but the lower half of the island puts up a strong defense involving Italian mercenaries. After losing 10 000 in 2 weeks, and only 2 000 of theirs, the General gives up and he personally heads to Constantinople, where he is beheaded as customary of the Guards. They did it not on the order of the Sultan. When news of the Defense of Rhodes reaches Europe, the previously promised support of civilians in Zagreb is lost, as they stand up and declare themselves for Genoa, as does the surrounding provinces, and most of Croatia. This is received with surprise by the Turkish Army who all the same, siege Zagreb. The City musters some 8 000 soldiers and hope to repeat Rhodes. Further south in Greece though, a Sicilian navy wanders around the ports there and even start to threaten the Greek shores.

    In France matters change just as dramatically, and to the intense pleasure of the Catholic King, Rouen cracked just after December unable to cope with the idea of extra bombardment. The mortars sent from Orleans are still heading there though. The Catholic Army occupied Rouen by the New Year and managed to patch up some heavier, and lighter, marks before they were sieged by the Lutheran French Force. The Eastern French force, massing as 15 000 strong. The other Lutheran French strong points are alerting the rest of the country for more offensives and raising County Militia. The Lutheran King though is sick of being on the defensive and immediately marches another 15 000 strong army from Dijon to attack Clermont – Ferrmond. 10 000 siege the leading city there, and another 5 000 fan out around the countryside to search for the Catholic Army. 2 000 Swiss Pikemen appeared in Toulon port, and another 2 000 are behind Lutheran France and in Switzerland, where they plan to return if invaded. Rome meanwhile, has landed 2 000 Papal Guard at Avingon, where they hope to help Catholic France, though still maintain a Papal General.

    The Holy Roman Emperor has been ordered by advisors and personal friends to write down his will, and his heir. He refuses to write down his heir for now, saying that death is far away, or so he thinks at the ripe age of 82. The Saxon Duke has privately stated that he is the successor, and confusingly, so has the Franconian Duke. While these troubles occur, in the south Augsburg is not passed away yet. The Rebels, refused allegiance by Austria, Bavaria and Genoa, hosted a Council to decide their future course. They have decided they will form a new Duchy, of The Palatine, or will form a new Kingdom, named Kingdom of Swabia. They have at least 10 000 troops and pose a serious threat, or ally. The Holy Roman Emperor has also asked Genoa to stop their attacks, and has outlined terms (See Spoiler) if agreed too then Austria and Turkey are to withdraw. Rome has followed along the lines of the Empire and agreed with the Emperor’s terms, though unofficially. In Frankfurt, the economic and political capital of the Empire, a stable capital of Florin has been sent up following the previous lines of Augsburg, now economically destroyed and officially crashed. Bavaria, ruler of Augsburg, has also stabilized.

    In The British Isles, matters clam down as the King of Scotland declares he will send the bishops. The 30 bishops who escaped from Catholic France during the war are joyous about this, as are the Scottish people when the York and Manchester armies back down. As the transport ships are loading, and the Catholic bishops are being escorted, a horrible deed happens. As they walk down the street, praised by numerous Catholic residents, three gun shots sound. Three bishops died, and the remaining hid. Another five were killed before the three killers were found, and there punishment awaits. The Catholic’s of Scotland, upon hearing this accuse the Scottish King of plotting this, and threaten action. Suspicion boils away in Catholic England, and the rest of the Catholic world, and Rome, are still to be heard. In Ireland, things do not change as dramatically as in Scotland. Several Anglican ships are spotted to the north of Ulster, and a fleet was reported by a overenthusiastic fisher heading around the south of Ireland. They were reportedly sighted again, this time by a beggar in Cork, but the morning was extremely foggy, and the pub owner, under further investigation by Catholic Ireland soldiers, has said the beggar has show delusions of illness. These minor problems are outlined by a overwhelming graph presented by the Catholic King’s Catholic Priest, Patrick O’Donnell, that news of a special Assassin’s Guild has been set up in Ulster. If this is true it could prove attempts on the King’s life.

    In The lands of the Teutonic Order, a certain outspoken Meister was quietly informed by unnamed sources that he was being very rude to the Hochmeister, and the results this could be achieved. It was then that he took to papers and streets that the country was no longer free before the papers refused this and crowds swelled. The newly appointed Meister of Prussia, Joan Staufen, has sent several highly esteemed men to quieten the Livonian Meister down. It worked, but a rift has appeared between the two houses with statements coming from the Livonian Meister of unfairness. After this debacle another one sprang forward, seemingly stirring in the pot for some time. The Polish accused the Order of hostile intentions and it was all revealed. 15 000 men were on the border separating the two states, and a Teutonic Spy was imprisoned in Warsaw. He managed to get information to his Hochmeister, stating that the Polish were waiting for him, and had a 20 000 strong army waiting in a village nearby the border for the Teutonic Army to attack. These problems were further influenced when a arrow and bullet narrowly missed the Prussian Meister, Joan Staufen, form thence he was sheltered. The Hochmeister is lucky he is in the large castle at Konigsberg. Military matters have not escalated between the two states, as has not war.

    The Russian Tsar has finally emerged from Moscow to announce his intentions. The Ukraine rebels had thought they had the cat in the bag, when no Russian Army emerged to assault their province. At this they managed to muster another thousand men and taken two more provinces intending to beak off from the Empire. There hopes were dashed when a 30 000 strong army arrived from Moscow. The rebels fled from their provinces into deeper Ukraine territory, the Russian army at once gave chase but were constantly attacked by Guerilla forces, losing at least 1 000 men. The rebels are still not found but are rumored to be hid by several towns in Crimea. In Finland, a Swedish fleet managed to find a safe Harbour nearby Russian controlled Helsinki, provincial capital opf Southern Finland. This was given as hostile intentions and a warning shot was fired from the fort at Helsinki, and when the Swedish ships didn’t leave a Russian fleet managed to blockade their escape route.

    In Spain, The Spanish Army advanced north but was faced with a large Portuguese army, all they could muster. The battle raged for some hours before a Pyrrhic victory occurred with the Spanish leaving the field with larger casualties, but followed closely by the Rebels. Other then that battle not much happened, except the extension of the Portuguese domains.



    The Kingdom of Scotland:
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    1) The assassination of the bishops; brutal but with success. You are accused of deeds, many whisper they true. The gun found was a Scottish Iron Barrel type, only produced in Scotland, this proves they come Scotland. Shall you come forth from Edinburgh Castle and make a statement?
    (a) Come forth from your temporary hiding and make a statement publicly to your nation and international accusers (Requires a Speech to be made in the thread with more then 50 words)
    (b) Move north to Inverness castle and refrain from a statement.
    (c)Ignore the situation.

    2) The bishops insist on safer protection for the rest of their journey, a whole fleet none the less for their trip. This takes away a valuable fleet from the homelands, and possibly from a future Irish conflict.
    (a) Assign one of your three fleets to the protection of their Papal convoy.
    (b) Give them luck and a handful of hired ships, as all you can afford.
    (c) Keep them in Scotland for now until things ‘die down’.


    3) The trip goes along the coast of Catholic France, along Portugal and around Gibraltar. It goes north past the United Kingdom of Corso and then docks in Rome. This journey is accompanied by Ottoman Pirates and Italian Man hunters.
    (a) Take that route, it will be safe.
    (b) Head them over land, across France and then through Genoan Milan and to the Papal States.
    (c) Head them over land, across The Holy Roman Empire, through Austria and Genoan Venice and to the Papal States.
    (d) Give them to a nation of your choice.

    4) The killers are paid by someone; do you wish to put up a investigation?
    (a) Yes, this may comfort some but may be not received as well to the large Anglican population.
    (b) Yes, secretly so none hear of it. It may not work as well, as people may not put forward views, but the killers won’t know.
    (c) No, they were Catholic, who cares?

    5) See at the end of this post for Choice #5, it involves economic things newly implemented into this Interactive History.

    6) You have 10 000 at the coast and 20 000 at Glasgow. Any orders?




    Kingdom of Catholic Ireland:
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    1) The news of a Assassin’s Guild in Ulster is very disturbing. If proven true it could provide attempts on your life, with high success with the mixed population.

    (a) Attempt to find out if Patrick’s graph is true, do this with a mixture of fear, torture and death. It will prove successful and fearful, but will affect the citizen population.
    (b) Find out with a mixture of bribes, kindness and good will. It will probably fail, but prove you a good leader.
    (c) Ignore this bold remarks, a simple man accuse the lands of your country of harboring such things!

    2) Patrick O’Donnell, proving quite the nuisance informs a Palace Guard, insists that you continue the construction of a Catholic Cathedral in Leinster, strangely abandoned by your predecessor.
    (a) yes, could stranglehold some of your economy but will prove good for your Catholic population.
    (b) No, it has been abandoned for a reason.

    3) Please see the end of the Post for Choice #3.

    4) You have 10 000 in Tyrone and 15 000 in Offaly. Any orders?










    The Kingdom of Catholic France:

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    1) You managed to subdue the weakling Lutheran’s in Rouen, to the intense relief of General Jean. Unfortunly, a Lutheran army sieged you as soon as you occupied it. They have, comically, adopted the exact formation you did when sieged; even using old fortifications you built for the siege.
    (a) Sally forth with your numbers (12 000) against the enemies numbers (15 000) If so, please download the map provided and work out your sally (In Paint for example)
    (b) Hold out, though you have been warned General Jean has a weakness in defending, his strong point attacking and field battles. But none the less: you have superior cannon power.

    2) Clermont – Ferrond has been attacked by a 20 000 strong Lutheran force, the Eastern King taking the offensive. The 3 000 men there crow for reinforcements.
    (a) Send the newly gained Swiss Pikemen to their aid, who have landed in Toulon on the southern coast.
    (b) Send in Militia from neighboring provinces.
    (c) Hold out and send your Main Task Force from Orleans.

    3) 2 000 Swiss Pikemen are camped in Toulon, another 2 000 barely west of Austria. Do you have any plans for them?
    (a) Ship the stranded Swiss down south through Genoa, offered kindly by the Genoan Consul, and ship them to Toulon.
    (b) Prepare them for a attack by the Lutheran French.
    (c) Send them over land in a risky escape highly capable of defeat.

    4) There are some 2 000 Papal Guard, a mixture of Pikemen and Musketeers modeled on the Spanish Tercio, in Rome who are provided by the Pope. Though forces for your aid, they shall meet up at Avingon with their allies from thence they are under the command of a chosen Papal, or French, General. They only request sea transport.
    (a) Send them the required transport troops and ship them to Toulon.
    (b) Recruit mercenaries from other Italian states to ship them.
    (c) Tell them they have to find other ways to get here, over land perhaps?

    5) General Jean, commanding the lowly rank of General, has quietly asked for a promotion. Shall you follow his dreams?
    (a) Yes, promote him to Field Commander.
    (b) No, he has yet to show his spirit in more battles.
    (c) No, when he beats the siegeing Lutheran Army he will be though.

    6) Two advisors have given two systems suited to war, and only need your agreement.
    (a) System 1. The Army in Rouen is titled the Norman Army, while the army in Orleans is titled The Catholic Defense Force. Both are commanded by Major Generals.
    (b) System 2. The Army in Rouen is the French Task Force, while the army in Orleans is the French First Field Army. Both are commanded by Field Commanders.

    7) You have 12 000 holed up in Rouen, 13 000 in Orleans and 3 000 in every other province.

    8) See the end of the post for Choice #8.



    The ArchDuchy of Austria:
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    1) The troops in Bolzano and Bellarno are stuck, but Bellarno managed to fight off a assault attempt. A budding Spanish general wishes to be given command of the entire front, saying his ideas will win your war.
    (a) Accept him as General in Chief. He has ideas such as bringing forth a new system just for the Italian Front, and things which can save Bolzano and Bellarno.
    (b) Decline him, there are several Generals from the Empire who will give such talent; perhaps.

    2) The Emperor’s will, not signed yet and unknown who his successor is. The Dukes of Franconia and Saxony both claim its them, which is not declined by the Emperor, but none are a Archduchy, are they?
    (a) Put pressure on the Emperor to sign it, though it will certainly be viewed as bad mannered by the Imperial Diet.
    (b) Tel him to take his time, though he may die before he signs it, putting forth the hard question of succession.

    3) In Klagenfurt, when news of the Ottoman siege of Zagreb reached them, they cried against it. A well known Count, Count of Klagenfurt in fact, declared he would not see the day when Austria helps the Turks in a war against fellow Europeans. Europeans who had in fact tried to help Austria defeat the Turk back in 1529. When his declaration reached your ears, the Count of Innsbruck had already said he supported the Count of Klagenfurt.
    (a) Tell them to be quiet by threat of expulsion of position, the loss of their title no less. There is always the chance the successor may be as vocal, as may be the citizens.
    (b) Listen to them, assure them peace will be chased at once.
    (c) Listen to them and withdraw from Bolzano, Bellarno and other provinces immediately.

    4)Go to the end of this post to see choice #4.

    5)You have 14 000 in Bolzano, 6 000 in Bellarno, 4 000 wandering Genoan lands, 25 000 near Venice and 6 000 siegeing Waline. Any orders?

    Situation in North Italy:



    Map of Croatia (Genoa is north, Turks are south)





    Duchy of Bavaria:

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    1) The Augsburg Crisis is fresh in your mind, and Augsburg is being rebuilt constantly. But now rumors reach the court of it being on purpose.
    (a) Investigate at once, send Bavaria’s best Invesigators to findout.
    (b) Give it a fleeting investigation by the Bavarian Military.
    (c) Ignore the rumors, that’s what they, rumors!

    2) The Emperor has called upon you to provide some supplies and troops to calm down the situation in Southern Germany.
    (a) Send the availed 5 000 troops and supplies he wants.
    (b) Send him nothing, but kindly.
    (c) Ignore the plea.

    3) Several South German villages offer themselves to you, but accepting could anger your Kaiser.
    (a) Accept and take the 5 000 troops they offer, and land.
    (b) Decline and request they give themselves into the Emperor.
    (c) Ignore their offers.

    4) Your leading Generals are claiming the time for a Military Reform is now. There are several systems used overseas which are effective.
    (a) Adopt the Dutch System. It involves standardizing armor, weapons and guns to the Dutch way. Every Regiment is organized into 2 battalions each made up of 550 men. 250 Pike men and 300 Musketeers. Every formation is between 8 to 12 men deep. The first soldiers in line would fire, wheel about and march to the back, and then the next line fired and repeated thus allowing a continued fire.
    (b) Adopt the Spanish Tercio. Most men are lightly armored but the three lines have pikes, which stop other pikes and cavalry. They attack enemy Pikemen, and the lightly armored musketeers and swordsmen behind rush through and cut up the enemy.
    (c) Adopt the Swiss formation. A square is in the middle, and in the middle of the square is pike men, and the outside musketeers. There are five smaller squares outside of the larger one, all made up of musketeers who retreat into the large one when attacked.

    5) You have 20 000 men in Augsburg and 10 000 in Lower Bavaria. Any orders?

    6) See the end of the post for Choice #6.


    The Teutonic Order:
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    1) The 15 000 on the Polish border a threatened by a army nearby. Its Livonian commander, the troublesome Sigismund, Meister of Livonia, has bargained they will attack before us.
    (a) Attack them at once, at the risk fo them having well fortified positions.
    (b) Retreat to a more fortified position.
    (c) Stay where you are, but adopt a better position.

    2) The supply routes leading there are in danger of being cut off, more by the wild weather then the enemy sure to come. It is though, a very popular road used by international merchants. This could, in some form, ensure that the Polish don’t attack?
    (a) Continue with that route, the other routes are sure to be affected by weather as well?
    (b) No, listen to your merchants, they are professionals, and take the advise they heed wisely.

    3)The ships you ordered are ready, there are enough to transport 28 000 over, and it is a very big fleet. The Swedish are blockaded in a harbor up north near Finland by Russian’s, are sure sign of aggression by them? The Swedish request help, saying it was only a mapping expedition.
    (a) Send some of your new ships to help them out of that sticky spot.
    (b) Never! Help the Russians! Blockade and destroy!
    (c) The order never cared about Russia or Sweden!

    4)See the end of the post for Choice #4.

    5)You have 15 000 in Berlin, and 15 000 on the Polish border. Any orders?



    The Tsardom of Russia:
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    1) The Ukraine rebels have run for it, and are suspected of hiding in Crimea, and local villagers hiding them. You have already wasted time summoning an army there, but now they draw out resources.
    (a) Send in the army and torture kill and burn, just get those rebels!
    (b) Send in an army and occupy cities, look for them.
    (c) Stay where you are, and burn the whole place down. Scorched earth tactics to be precise.
    (d) Retreat back to Moscow ‘till those cowards show themselves.

    2) The blockade of Swedish ships in Finland. The Swedes are yelling about acts of aggression and this could quickly turn into a headache. There is always one General or Admiral who thinks he is doing the right thing.
    (a) Tell them to move in and destroy the Swedish ships. War was certain to happen, right?
    (b) Let them pass with excuses that we thought they were attacking Russia!
    (c) Keep up the blockade, let them declare war! We will crush them!

    3) Now matters in Europe, are okay… but the Tsardom only extends to the Ural mountains. What of the lands beyond? The lands where Mongol invaders stormed from? Perhaps the end of the Silk Road!
    (a) Send explorers to map your path, find out if it is suitable for a colony.
    (b) Send in a army, destroy the locals!
    (c) Do not worry, maybe a few years time, we need to concentrate on Finland and Ukraine.


    4) See the end of the post for Choice #4

    5) You have 30 000 somewhere in Ukraine, 30 000 in Smolensk, and 20 000 in Mumansk. Any orders?





    African Alliance:

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    1) The training of your armies to use the Tercio is proving successful, and will definitely help our conquests. But now some silly Spanish merchant is crowing back to the Spanish Crown about some stealing.
    (a) How dare he accuse us of stealing the General, or for want of a better word, kidnapping him. Kill him!
    (b) Tell the Spanish King you did nothing of such barbarism.
    (c) Ignore him, who cares what the Spanish think? They’ve got to deal with the Portuguese!

    2) The Portuguese, hearing you have the basic Tercio, and of the end of the war, have asked politely if you could spare any troops?
    (a) Yes, of course we can. Here are (Your number)
    (b) No, we can not spare any thing at this given moment.

    3) The town of Timbuktu has been heralded as a major trading town and its population has expanded by 2000 in the last 4 months, the majority of these European! It is your town but seems to be converted to a European town now.
    (a) Expel any foreigners, this is your town!
    (b) Let them stay, for a fee.
    (c) Let them stay for free.

    4) See the end of this post for Choice #4.
    5) You have 37 000 in Tunisia, who are currently under training.






    Ottoman Empire:
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    1) The Siege of Rhodes unsuccessful its first time, and the map shows you how far the Turkish forces have penetrated the island. The main points of resistance is from the mountains and the large fortress to the north, called Rhodes City. The fortress alone could last several months with no reinforcements. Please download the map and draw up your assault plan.




    2) The economic capital of the Tugra. It has not been decided yet, and the advisors leave it up to you to decide. Where shall it be? (Use map provided please)
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    3) The Persians are amassing on the border, and could be a bit threatening. Do you have any plans of assault, do you want to attack them?

    (a) Yes, attack at once and leave the planning for my Generals.
    (b) Yes, I will plan the attack.
    (c) No, let them attack me.

    4) See the end of this post for Choice #4.

    5) You have 30 000 soldiers retreating from Egypt, 50 000 siegeing Zagreb, 20 000 siegeing Rhodes, 40 000 on the Russian border and 20 000 on the Persian border. Any orders?
    Land Owenership in Croatia (Your south, genoa north)




    The Kingdom of Spain:

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    1) In Southern Spain, in the area of Granada, it is heavily influenced by African nations further south. Some three months ago 3 000 Muslim soldiers crossed over to Africa and are serving under the African Sultan. They are being trained be mercenary Spanish General Valerian.
    (a) Ask the African Sultan to immediately send back the Granada soldiers. (Requires you ask kamikhaan by PM)
    (b) Send in spies to kill General Valerian and order the Muslim soldiers back to Spain.
    (c) Nothing, they may come back when the Sultan is finished with them.


    2) The Spanish Tercio is right now the very best, and several nations around the world are sing its system. Them mainly being Austria and African Alliance. You may request they stop using it, or they can… for pay.
    (a) Never! They may not, can not, use it. It is Spanish, it is unique!
    (b) Maybe… If they enter into a Military Alliance and promise you soldiers for wars you get involved in.
    (c) Maybe, if they let you take 10% of their Royal Company, and let you bid in their market with that 10%...

    3)The Conde (Count) Of Seville, the Conde of Madrid and the Conde of Granada all separately demand you make their cities the Capital.
    (a) Seville will remain the capital. It is centered in Spain and has no religious majority.
    (b) Madrid will become the capital. It will mean the Christian half of Spain will become happier, and Spain will be more heavily influenced by Europe.
    (c) Granada will become the capital. It means the Muslim half of Spain will become happier, and Spain will be more heavily influenced by Africa and Asia.

    4) You have 20 000 in Seville, 10 000 in Granada and 5 000 in Pamplona and 13 000 in Western Spain.. Any orders?
    Map of Spain and Portugal Battle:









    Recruitable Mercainaires:
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    Nubian Rebels - 500
    Serbian Snipers - 200
    Sicillian Armored Knights - 600


    Worth of Currency:
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    Guilders
    Pound Sterling
    Florins
    Tugra
    Ducat
    Cruzcados



    Timeline of History from 1540
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    1540
    _____
    Augsburg Crash
    Senegal Rebellion
    War of Genoan Aggresion
    War of Union
    Dublin Blockade
    War of Portuguese Independance
    Ukraine Rebellion
    Battle of Bolzano and Bellarno
    Siege of Venice
    Siege of Rouen
    Battle for Eastern Portugal



    1541
    _______
    Ottoman joins Genoan War
    Blockade of Swedish Ships
    Siege of Bolzano and Bellarno




    The Terms Outlined by the Holy Roman Emperor, and seconded by the Pope and numerous others:
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    Genoa shall stop its unlawful attack on Venice, uncalled for and unholy in its spirit. Genoa shall withdraw its armys from Veneatian territroy, but may be allowed one province of choice in Western Venice. The Turks are to withdraw as well, at once, for their unrightful attack on Christian land, and that which is left for Christians to deal with.

    The terms also apply to Austria, who is to recall its armies from Venice, though we recognise your way in trying to liberate the provinces. For this deed we give Austria the province of Bolzano. Genoa shall not attack another Christian nation unless agrred with by the Empire or Papal States. Venice shall gain all its old provicnes other then the ones indicated.

    Signed,
    The Holy Roman Emperor
    Duke of Saxony
    Duke of Franconia
    Holy Pope
    Statdtholder of Holland
    King of the United Kingdom of Corso



    All of your extra choices, a new feature:
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    Well, you've all bee redirected to the end of the post, as in all of your orders. I have, and am, trying to introduce a new part of this Interactive, seeing as it is usally about Military.

    Every single currency, will have a market. On the market, there will be several companies, and the Royal (Nations Name) Company. At the start of every turn the nation is given a certian amount of money, and its the Players objective to rule the market. Example:

    Florin:
    Royal Saxon Company 10%
    Royal Franconian Company 10%
    Royal Bavarian Company 10%
    Royal Austrian Company 10%
    The Empire 50%

    You get 5000 Florins to spend, to buy 5% is 3000 florins. Its your choice where you buy. Lets say, Saxony buys 5% of Franconia's share, and so does Bavaria. But Franconia buys a bit of Austria making it:

    15%
    5%
    15%
    5%
    50%

    Does it make sense?


    If it does, I will edit in the new feature, if not, I will scrap it.

    Well, good luck! I hope you enjoying the Interactive.

    Deadline: 13th of January
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    Open Message from Western France:

    We are looking desperately for help. Our good nation is under threat. Our world is fighting, our good brothers are dying... We are forced, because we don't see any other way of resolving conflicts, to use our force and strength to deal with this constant headache for our nation. Yes, war seems to be the logical, but, nevertheless, a non ethical way to resolve this conflict. Dialgue seems not to be an ability for our brothers, the Eastern France people. They understand for dialogue as one word that they don't use. In other words, we can't stop this war.

    Our intentions are good ones. We want an unificated France, under the same flag. Sadly, thanks to the Eastern part of our country, that is not possible.

    We are very grateful of having allies in this matter of France. We have to, as an obligation, say Thank you to Rome. We need help to fight against our enemies, and Rome has so far good intentions of helping. Their help is the best one we could get.

    Now, I call you, Catholic people, to pray for our soldiers. I ask you for help, and some day, I will retribute it.

    Have a nice day

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    It seems a number of people are confused over the new feature I am trying to add. let me explain better;

    Every company owns a percentage of that currency, as the given example before, for the Florin. The worth of a currency is given of how many people own part of that currency. If 10 people own part of it, it isn't worth as much. If one person has a owns it all, it is most likely #1.

    So at the start of every turn, you are given 5000 pieces of that money. When you want to buy a piece of a certian currency (3000 for 5%) Say it publicly, and I will change the prices. They can be changed and swapped around untill you run out of money. Its ongoing.

    Now does it make better sense? The whole feature is every nation owns a Company (Saxony owns Royal Saxon Company) and Saxony owns 10% of the Florin. They get 5000 Florins and they can spend it by buying percentages of other companies, until they totally own it. But every other nation will be doing that as well.

    When you reach 0% you can no longer buy percantages until you buy back in, which costs 10 000, giving your Trade Opponet percious time. With this feature you can also form Trade Agreements, meaning you will not buy each others percantages.

    To form a second company, it costs 25 000, to completely outright buy or own a enemy company (Meaning they can't buy anymore) It costs 40 000 or if you annex all their cities.

    PM me if you want a better explanation.
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    Umm..., Baby Boomer, where is the outline for the peace treaty/truce with Genoa the Pope and the HRE were pushing through?

    And about the percentages with the florin companies? The example only has 90% of the ownership of the florin, where is the other 10%?

    Oh, and I'm enjoying this interactive.
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    A Open Message From The Knights of St. John:

    As of now, petty wars are being waged on the mainland between good Christian nations! Already here, through determination and iron will we have resisted a invasion force much larger then us. We can not hold forever, and once our fortress's break, as will our mens backs, a flood of Turkish soldiers will fall into Europe! We, The pure Knights of St. John, ask for support and soldiers to drive back the Turk, regian what the Romans had those many years ago!

    To The Turk, we ask you to withdraw. It is useless to keep siegeing our mighty forts when you can retreat, already 10 000 lay dead out our walls, with only slight casualties sustained by our Knights. We shall have support from our Chisitian brothers, and from there, drive you out!

    Let all Knight Orders, help, even the Teuton Knights in North germany, though the connections between our two ancient orders are long ago, we, The Knights of Rhodes, feel they remain strong.
    The Council of Knights,




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    That has been added now, will contiue to refine the timeline for extra detail and I will add it to the first post.

    I seemed to forget the other 10%, pardon my maths. There are other companies which aren't royal.
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    For example, I have the Ecus(not yet because you forgot ) as my local currency. IF noone uses it, I control all the market?




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    What are the companies for Scotland?


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    Open Message of Western Empire to The Knights of Saint John:

    You knock us to our door for help, and we are in problems too. We cant help, all we got for you is luck and some supplies we could send to you. I'm teribly afraid thats the only thing I can do.




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    A message to the Knights of St.John, Rhodes, and Hospitaller:

    It was only some 250 years ago, a small time on the scale of of our struggle against the Turk and Muslim, that we fought together hand and hand to defend the fortress of Acre from the Muslims. Though the fortress fell, we fought to the last as brother Christians. Though we disagree on the tenets of our Christianity, our foe remains the same. Therefore I support your cause and pray for the survival of your holy order. But alas, the troubles of my lands prevent me from sending aid at the moment but If i can at some later date I will send some of my most fearless knights to your aid. I will even send Livonians, still catholics, if that be your wish. But restv assured the Knights Teutonic support your cause.

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    If there is not a lot of nations using one currency, I will throw in some other companies as well.

    @shlin28. I haven't added them yet because I was checking to see if evryone is alright. If somebody doesn't want it I won't add you.

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    (btw, is my sultan's name "Solyman" or Solloman?)

    Touch chapter, looks like it's going to take awhile to get used to the new feature.

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    A Open Message from Saxony:

    We write this letter to our Emperor, and to my fellow Prince Electors, those being the Duke of Franconia, Duke of Bavaria and ArchDuke of Austria. Saxony lately has assumed a very large army, we are second to one in this EMpire, and second to few in Europe. We control large tracts of land, those larger then Franconia or Bavaria. So we call upon my fellow Dukes, and the old Emperor, to grant this ppor DUchy of Saxony the honorable title of ArchDuchy of Saxony.

    Though Ferdiniand, you might not want this, I believe it would give a balanced Empire, having two ArchDuchy's, and seeing as Saxony grows daily through peaceful means,quite the opposite of our Austrian friend, and we have a very large economy. Being a DUchy, we can not go through daily buisness as well.

    So 2 Dukes of this EMpire, and the Emperor, sign a form enabling us the position of ArchDuchy, we shall be forever grateful.
    Here is the Treaty:
    From this day forth that two Duke's of the most Holy Roman Empire, and the great Emperor of this great Holy Roman Empire sign this treaty, the large Duchy of Saxony shall be granted the pirvlieages and titles of a ArchDuchy, thus balancing the Empire's uneven stack of ArchDuchy's.
    Signed by the honorable Duke of Saxony,
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    _______
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    There are a few diffrent ways I've seen it spelt but it seems to be widely called Sulyman or Solyman as my book calls it. It canalso be said sa Suliman and Sulieman. Confusing, but it would be preferred if you just used one (Sulyman) Has anyone else had any other experinces with this leader?

    I think some wars seem to be dieing down now, though that doesn't make it easy! I tried to use national languages of the players country for ranks and so. If anyone has Scottish for Count and King please say, and also Irish for General, King, Count. Other then that I hope it is good.

    If anyone is looking for a bit more reading, check out the Story I am writing in the Mead Hall, Alternate World War One, I eagerly look for readers there.

    I was also thinking of putting up a New Years Story (Something between Leaders and so) But I stopped myself, though it may be a bit late, would anyone want me to post it up? I contains conversations between the Holy Roman Emperor and seveal Leaders, the Swedish King and Anglican Church. It would be a bit of a comedy one, it probably wouldn't involve the Emperor at Chistmas Dinner between him and his DUkes (Over a hundred of them)

    @Shogun, It may take a while, but I am sure you'll adjust, I won't be adding anything else in again, except maybe a bit later. I forgot your persian map again (I have such a awful memeory ) So I have to draw it and will add it up tonight.

    EDIT: I have too much spare time, so I am going to have a day or two away from The Guild, , so excuse if PM's and Questions are not answered.
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