Reign of Ares (tbs, city mod, new units, fixes and more) to eb with bi

[Thorlof]

I relase 1.5 version http://files.filefront.com/Reign_of_.../fileinfo.html
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=84489
PS I change Pyrrhos formation to more rational phalanx and spearmen line.

[Redmeth]

Hello and my congratulations Thorlof.
Could you please release a version of your mod with only the units for CB (and the EDU modified to add the new units not other changes from the original EB edu).
That way I can continue my campaign and play some CB with the new ones in your mod (great skins).
Is this possible?

[Basileus Seleukeia]

At Last! The new version is completed! Muhahahaha *cough* *cough*
I already tried it out and saw that some things are not fixed already, but that's no offense, I know that you're busy and perhaps did not read the post in which I stated them.
Galatikoi Lavotuxri still have 100 men.
Dorkim Poeni still uses the shieldwall.
Elephants still have that archer floating on their back. I know that it is very difficult to move that archer,so perhaps you should change the skelleton of the archer to the one Horse-Archers use, that would work I think.
And Illyrioi Thureophoroi and Thorakitai are still weaker than their hellenic cousins.
Otherwise, great mod, now we finally have a fully fleshed out set of roman allies!
Edit: Epeirotean Hypaspistai still wave their long spears around as if they were swords.
Both of the Pontik Thorakitai versions have no sprites, when zooming out they turn into a fuzzy mix of coulours.
Euozonoi have no UI. They still use the "black peasant" icon.

[Thorlof]

Galatikoi Lavotuxri still have 100 men.
Dorkim Poeni still uses the shieldwall.
Elephants still have that archer floating on their back. I know that it is very difficult to move that archer,so perhaps you should change the skelleton of the archer to the one Horse-Archers use, that would work I think.
And Illyrioi Thureophoroi and Thorakitai are still weaker than their hellenic cousins.Epeirotean Hypaspistai still wave their long spears around as if they were swords.
Both of the Pontik Thorakitai versions have no sprites, when zooming out they turn into a fuzzy mix of coulours.
Euozonoi have no UI. They still use the "black peasant" icon.

I now, this my oblivion from hurry. I must down my comp in few days mayby week.After this i relase fix to this version. Mayby another bug is discovered.
Redmeth -no problem new units to clean EB (only in CB) and some change skins in older units from EB- this is surpise
http://files.filefront.com/new_units.../fileinfo.html

[Redmeth]

Thank you but after an install I got an error about descr_mount I copied it from RoA 1.5 but now it still gives me an error when trying to start EB

[Thorlof]

What error - mounts ? Mayby this f.. elephants . Copy please this error to post.

[Redmeth]

After installing I get "error loading mount database" and after i click ok then "script error in descr_mount line 390 col 1 elephant indian cataphract".
After i copy descr_mount from RoA 1.51 I get this error export_descr_unit at line 1287 col 1 stat_pri_armour statistic missing from unit type "numidian light infantry"

[Thorlof]

1. Change numidian light infantry in EDU to this. My mystake from hurry
;roa16
type numidian light infantry
dictionary numidian_linf ; Numidian Light Infantry
category infantry
class light
voice_type General_1
soldier numidian_linf, 40, 0, 0.99
mount_effect elephant +6, chariot +6, horse -8
attributes sea_faring, hide_forest, can_sap
formation 1.2, 1.2, 1.2, 1.2, 4, square
stat_health 1, 0
stat_pri 5, 0, javelin, 50, 4, thrown, archery, piercing, spear, 25 ,1
stat_pri_attr prec, thrown
stat_sec 8, 4, no, 0, 0, melee, simple, piercing, sword, 0 ,0.225
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 5, 9, 5, flesh
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 0
stat_ground 1, 10, -2, -10
stat_mental 10, normal, trained
stat_charge_dist 40
stat_fire_delay -55000
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 1650, 790, 30, 50, 250
ownership egypt, slave

2. Hm i dont now . Add to clean EB mount this line
type iberian horse
class horse
model iberian_horse
radius 1.5
x_radius 0.5
height 2.5
mass 4.5
banner_height 0
bouyancy_offset 1.4
water_trail_effect horse_water_trail
root_node_height 1.6
rider_offset 0.0, 0.3, 0.0

;and change or adds
type camel ; DO NOT REMOVE
class camel
model camel
radius 1.5
x_radius 0.57 ;changed from 0.5 29/4/05
height 2.5
mass 3.5
banner_height 0
bouyancy_offset 1.8
water_trail_effect camel_water_trail
root_node_height 1.52
rider_offset 0, 0.43, -0.2

mayby working.

[Redmeth]

Now i get a carthaginian infantry dhorkim khosim error in the edu.
Using the descr_mount from RoA because even after doing the changes i still got an error expecting unit name.
Don't bother yourself too much with this if you can make it work it would be nice but if not no problem

[Thorlof]

I forget - dhorkim khosim this is secret band
change this line in edu in
;97
type carthaginian infantry dorkim kdoshim
dictionary carthaginian_infantry_dorkim_kdoshim ; Dorkim Kdosim
category infantry
class spearmen
voice_type General_1
soldier carthaginian_infantry_sacredbandphalanx, 40, 0, 1.33
mount_effect horse +2, camel +2, elephant -1
attributes sea_faring, hide_forest, can_sap, hardy
formation 1, 1.2, 2, 2.4, 4, square, phalanx
stat_health 1, 0
stat_pri 15, 0, no, 0, 0, melee, simple, piercing, spear, 0 ,0.15
stat_pri_attr spear
stat_sec 12, 2, no, 0, 0, melee, simple, piercing, sword, 0 ,0.13
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 14, 8, 5, metal
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 2
stat_ground 0, 0, -4, -3
stat_mental 18, disciplined, highly_trained
stat_charge_dist 30
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 2695, 674, 80, 110, 2695
ownership egypt, slave

to
;97
type carthaginian infantry dorkim kdoshim
dictionary carthaginian_infantry_dorkim_kdoshim ; Dorkim Kdosim
category infantry
class spearmen
voice_type General_1
soldier Carthaginian_Sacred_Band, 40, 0, 1.33
mount_effect horse +2, camel +2, elephant -1
attributes sea_faring, hide_forest, can_sap, hardy
formation 1, 1.2, 2, 2.4, 4, square, phalanx
stat_health 1, 0
stat_pri 15, 0, no, 0, 0, melee, simple, piercing, spear, 0 ,0.15
stat_pri_attr spear
stat_sec 12, 2, no, 0, 0, melee, simple, piercing, sword, 0 ,0.13
stat_sec_attr no
stat_pri_armour 14, 8, 5, metal
stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
stat_heat 2
stat_ground 0, 0, -4, -3
stat_mental 18, disciplined, highly_trained
stat_charge_dist 30
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 1, 2695, 674, 80, 110, 2695
ownership egypt, slave

sorry for trouble

[Principe Alessandro]

I click to the link, but in filefront there is the rar version 1a as I read, and I saw that there are some bugs, are bugs light or are bugs that they cause CTD? making unplayable the game, and for the fix how time need for the release?
Thank you thorlof for the time that you dedicate to this nice mod

[Basileus Seleukeia]

You have to use the link in the first post of this thread.

[Redmeth]

Ok after doing the 2 changes in the edu (dorkim dhosim and the numidian infantry) and adding to the clean EB descr_mount the 2 lines I still get an error in descr_mount about could not find battle model for indian elephant cataphracts...

[Redmeth]

I gave up on trying to make it work and reinstalled EB because many things changed like the names and stuff.
The one thing I used from your battle system (TBS) was descr_formations_AI great job on it. And it worked well until 0.40 I think.
But this last one in 0.41 gives me crashes in battles it's the only file I changed in my new clean EB 0.81av2 install.
Using descr_formations and descr_formations_AI I get a crash when I click Start Deployment.
Is the last descr_formations_AI tied to your EDU?
Can you post a descr_formations_AI that can work on its own only with a clean EB with or without BI?
I appreciate all your work but for me the thing I like most is your formations.

[Thorlof]

formation working in EB with BI only (sorry) In 0.41 is bug in formation and must use fix or formation from RoA 1.5.
elephant hm mayby descr_mount with data folder from RoA (not from EB folder in RoA) with elephant helpful.

[CrownOfSwords]

Hey I love the extra units thorlof but im completely confused, Im currently playing a campaign as the Greeks and I have built my cities up but I dont see the extra hoplite units to recruit!? Am i waiting for a reform or something??

[Basileus Seleukeia]

A lot of the new Hoplite units are for custom battles only. Look at the first post, there is a unit list, and the units which have a (CB) after their name are only for custom battles.

[CrownOfSwords]

Well i had seen that, but there are still a lot of new hoplite units that are for campaign and I havent figured out how to recruit them?? And if the Athenian hoplites arent available why start them in the campaign??? I want to be able to retrain them!

[intensewarrior]

your ideas of the inca civilization interest me.
i believe that one day we will be able to live like they once did
thats like saying king arthur was a king

i want to be an inca ruler
it is so pationately amazing
i would love to rule you all
and be the intense warrior that i am

[Principe Alessandro]

Why is not possible to recruit the spartiates and athenaioi hoplite? they are very good especially against some elite seleucids and Macedonians but in fact the skins for the spartiates is not very historic

[intensewarrior]

You ood-for-nothin empiror.
Ho do you feel insultin hat I deeply believin.
Your ords were deep . . . . in h***!!!!!!

[intensewarrior]

Mod Edit:Please do not copy (plagiarize) material from websites without giving mention of credit to the source. This seems unrelated to the thread, anyways.

[CrownOfSwords]

Ok well I played as Epeirus now and I found that i could recruit taratine and syracusin hoplites. I think you should change some of the old numbers back and I think you should take away the 2HP it makes some battles go for a rediculously long time. But as far as unit numbers I think all the phalanx units should go back from 150 to 240. The elite units with only 100 is good though and I think the non elite cavalry units should go back to their original size as well.

[Thorlof]

And if the Athenian hoplites arent available why start them in the campaign??? I want to be able to retrain them!

recruit "athenian_hoplite" 0 requires factions { greek_cities, } and hidden_resource SW and hidden_resource C and hidden_resource y1 and hidden_resource y2 and hidden_resource n4 and hidden_resource y8
You mus copy this line to EDB to the barracks greek_city faction - city_barracks_I1, army_barracks_I1, royal_barracks_I1. but this is units from IVcentury not III.

I think you should take away the 2HP it makes some battles go for a rediculously long time. But as far as unit numbers I think all the phalanx units should go back from 150 to 240. The elite units with only 100 is good though and I think the non elite cavalry units should go back to their original size as well.

I working with 1hp but this is long way to end. Unit numbers - this is 2 EDU. 1 with historical number (1/10) and more power to barbarians. Standard civilized -100inf, 50cav., barbarian-200inf, 80cav. But, barbarians is good in attack but defend is very poor.
2. file in -2hp with eb number soldiers- this is orginal numbers of troops from EB

[Principe Alessandro]

Hi Thorlof
can you give also the line for Korinthos Hoplitai and Euboieis Hoplitai to paste?
and txt where I must paste is the desc_unit?

Thank you

[Thorlof]

recruit "Euboean_Hoplite" 0 requires factions { greek_cities, thrace, } and hidden_resource SW and hidden_resource C and hidden_resource n1 and hidden_resource y2 and hidden_resource n4 and hidden_resource y8
this line to this building so Athenoi
or if macedon to city_barracks_K1, army_barracks_K1, royal_barracks_K1 this line
recruit "Euboean_Hoplite" 0 requires factions { macedon, } and hidden_resource SW and hidden_resource C and hidden_resource n1 and hidden_resource y2 and hidden_resource n4 and hidden_resource y8

to korinthos
recruit "corinthian_hoplite" 0 requires factions { greek_cities, thrace, } and hidden_resource SW and hidden_resource C and hidden_resource y1 and hidden_resource n2 and hidden_resource y4 and hidden_resource y8
to this same buidings
and
recruit "corinthian_hoplite" 0 requires factions { macedon, } and hidden_resource SW and hidden_resource C and hidden_resource n1 and hidden_resource y2 and hidden_resource n4 and hidden_resource y8
to this same macedon barracks

[Darth Stalin]

OK, so if I want both Macedon and Greek cities to recruit Corinthian and Euboean hoplites, should the line look like:
(...) requires factions { greek_cities, thrace, macedon, } (...)?

[Principe Alessandro]

thank you very much Thorlof

[Principe Alessandro]

OK, so if I want both Macedon and Greek cities to recruit Corinthian and Euboean hoplites, should the line look like:
(...) requires factions { greek_cities, thrace, macedon, } (...)?

I think no because the barracs of macedon and the barracs of greeks and epirotes are different, greek_cities, thrace I think that can do but macedon must stay a part from greek thrace

[Darth Stalin]

OK, so it seems that I have to add the appropriate lines to both greek_cities and macedon barracks separately - then both Greeks and Macedons could recruits these hoplites (if only willing to do so).