I can and will post less, but asking me to change my process entirely and "stop playing live" is like asking a basketball player to start using a bowling ball at the free throw line
Sure it might work but it's just unwieldy
I can and will post less, but asking me to change my process entirely and "stop playing live" is like asking a basketball player to start using a bowling ball at the free throw line
Sure it might work but it's just unwieldy
"How dare you dodge the barrel!"
I think here and there it is fine, but there is a balance to it. Too much and it just becomes unbearable. Every once in awhile is no problem.
Always meet on the level, act by the plumb and part on the square.
2B1ASK1
I agree, and I noticed when I was posting like 6 times in a row and promptly said "tomorrow I will try to post less"
I got better at CONSOLIDATING my posts, but part of the problem is my phone sometimes butchers my posts to the point where I'm not even sure people will understand them
And then I have to correct them
It's not like I just blurt out words as they come to my head, there is a ton of thought that goes behind my posts it just happens really really fast, and also I'm on my phone because I have a broken computer. I can't do too much better than this so I play with the limitations I have placed on me
Last edited by Monstrdude; 01-03-2017 at 21:22.
"How dare you dodge the barrel!"
A benefit is that most were short, so it created its own flow, but the real problem is with replies. If you have 6 posts with 15 sentences between them, especially if you're still posting, I think it encourages multipost responses that normally would have consolidated, and it all becomes confusingly entangled. Certainly for me it was the case that posts begat posts in a way not felt in games with less posting, and multiplied by 10 or 20 players...
One recommendation is to have a more consistent format to improve flow in multiposts. Another is to include a small, visually-distinctive signature in your posts. See Forum Actions > General Settings > (My Settings) Edit Signature at the top of the page.
Vitiate Man.
History repeats the old conceits
The glib replies, the same defeats
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
If you’ll allow me to pick on you a little bit here… this is an example of exactly what I am talking about. These two posts say basically the same thing, are just minutes apart, and have no other posts between them. Taking a second to review the first post might have led you to add the bit in the second that you felt needed to be said, resulting in one cleaner post that says exactly what you are wanting to say. Or after writing the second post but before hitting submit you might have reviewed it and decided that it didn’t really add any new content and basically repeated your previous post, leading you to not hit submit.
Always meet on the level, act by the plumb and part on the square.
2B1ASK1
That's just my personality
And they totally say different things?
One contains justifications for individual things
The other is a half joke
"How dare you dodge the barrel!"
Always meet on the level, act by the plumb and part on the square.
2B1ASK1
I mean, I've tried to cut back before and change this and it usually results in people going "man monstrman sure seems like he's intentionally changing his posts or something so he's probably a wolf"
"How dare you dodge the barrel!"
Also, bear with me here
I think bite sized posts with less information in spurts are SO MUCH EASIER to read than megaposts that are far too consolidated
Last edited by Monstrdude; 01-03-2017 at 21:30.
"How dare you dodge the barrel!"
There is another extreme, that is the wall of text. This can be equally as hard to read. The art is in finding the balance between the two extremes.
Always meet on the level, act by the plumb and part on the square.
2B1ASK1
Fun fact there are another 600 (easily more) nonexistent posts that were in my head at one point and I decided that none of them needed to be put into the thread
So believe it or not I was absolutely holding back this game
I just need to force myself to do it more. I think what I'm gonna do from now on is leave my posts open in the box for a few minutes and if I have NOTHING left to say I will post or discard as needed
It will probably still have spelling errors because it's hard to proofread on a phone, I wish I was on a computer so I could use actual English.
"How dare you dodge the barrel!"
I would argue that crushing it has no relevance to number of posts, but rather to the content of said posts.
I was lock clear townie by D4, provided a ton of actionable information in my kill choice (and really was a hair away from killing an actual scum had we lynched Cuth instead), and then successfully drew a kill in an attempt to save others that were more active and might still have useful activities (pesky other kills nullified this though). All this with a mere fraction of the post count that you had.
Always meet on the level, act by the plumb and part on the square.
2B1ASK1
That's not the point
The point is that you crushed it your way and I crushed it mine
I agree that it's not about the volume but it's definitely about the process. Where was I before I was interacting with every player individually asking them questions and answering those questions?
"General hankerchief is a wolf." I hadn't spoken to him once that game. Thats the result. They become a wolf because you've distanced yourself from them
I may be dumb, but I know this game is about communication; about fostering trust. I agree that you having to read that many posts when you have ever limited time is frustrating, but there's no way I'm ever gonna stop talking to every single player in the game in the places I see fit
Last edited by Monstrdude; 01-03-2017 at 21:46.
"How dare you dodge the barrel!"
And related to that, I find interacting with people in real-time is more useful and enjoyable. It's hard to read someone like Al, for example, when he didn't really interact with people and would instead just post big summaries of his reads.
But that's a matter of formatting. Judicious application of spoiler tags solves everything, and even when one is awed by the scope or length of a full post at least they can take comfort in knowing when and where it all is.
Vitiate Man.
History repeats the old conceits
The glib replies, the same defeats
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Summary read-type posts are also much easier to fake as scum than natural flow rapid real time posts, so I find that it helps me townread people.
(just logged in after 2 days afk, ...wow...)
I spent most of the time I had trying to catch up. Then I either ran out of time, or the thread went silent (or there were Visor and Zack relentlessly kicking Cuth). I thought the least I could do was to post my reads.
I liked the game anyway, and I do like the setup! I even think that the extra kills for missing votes is an interesting idea. I'd play again. Thanks, Pizza, for hosting, wp all!
i also lol'd a little at this being called an "extreme example"
because while it is, it also isn't
meh
enjoy playing here though
gg all
Wait, WoT is a strategy for scum to get a town read or mislynches going, no?
BSmith, i understand your pain. I hate having to read too many posts as much as anyone. and In my case, its the middle of the night when most people are active. so when i come to the thread in the morning i am perpetually in catch up mode. and i end up focusing on mechanics or tone and voting pattern.
But people play the game the way they want to. As long as it is not spam, i am ok with it.
btw, i have also been playing at MU where a lot of people go "high posting = town".
I agree with @BSmith post fully. I'm glad @Fenn could step in and take my place. I couldn't continuously keep up with the volume of the game in a way that would allow me to contribute in any decent way. I agree with BSmith that being concise is important. I'm just going to say that BSmith's post is spot on for me, and my feelings about this game. It was an interesting setup and wish I could have actually contributed, but it is what it is. Thanks for taking my spot Fenn, really appreciate that.
No worries Csargo. Turned out my being late for the game worked out in the end!
This posting rate in this was a little above average in terms of what I'm used to, but that was enough to make my laziness prevail over rereading Day 2 and ISO'ing heavily. Funny to see how people were townreading me in retrospect, because I did not think I sounded very towny at the time
monstrbro: It's not personal. It's strictly business.
Yeah, add a decent, distinctive avatar so that we can tell when your rant ends. Otherwise people keep the ridiculous avatars provided by the .org and when we skim through the thread to gauge the length of your posts we can't tell whos doing what at a glance.
good lord| if you're telling the truth you're setting new records for scumminess as a townie -Renata on IM, 16/09/2011
Feles deliberatissimae subiugare humanitiati sunt, et res solae quae eas desinunt canes sunt.
I see I've been sigged yet again -Askthepizzaguy, 02/08/2012
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