Ancient and present city names

[V.T. Marvin]

Hello, friends! The idea behind this thread is to compile a comprehensive list matching EB settlements with their current names or with names of present cities that are more or less in the same place cities. It would allow, for instance, to easily find your favourite EB settlement in
Google Earth, or plan your holiday trip.

Some are pretty obvious - Roma = Rome, Side = Side, etc. but others might be more interesting and not everyone might know them - like Ecbatana = Hamadan, and such.

I would therefore like to encourage you to post as many matching couples as you know of. Some interesting info on the liquistics or meaning of the city name would also be much appreciated.

And here is what we have so far...

Adrumeto = Sousse, Tunesia
Ak-Ink = Budapest, Hungary
Alexandreia = Alexandria (or Al Iskandariyah in Arabic), Egypt
Alexandria-Ariana = Herat, Afghanistan
Alexandria-Eschate = Khujand (in the Fergana valley), Tajikstan
Alexandropolis = Kandahar, Afghanistan*
Ambrakia= Arta, Greece
Ammonion = Siwa, Egypt
Ani-Kamah = Gyumri, Armenia*
Ankyra = Ankara, Turkey
Antiocheia = Antioch (or Antakya i Turkish), Turkey
Antiocheia-Margiane = Merv, Turkmenistan
Arbela = Irbil, Iraq
Ariminium = Rimini, Italy
Armavir = Armavir, Armenia
Arpi = Foggia, Italy
Arretium = Arezzo, Italy
Arsé = Sagunto (or Sagunt in Catalanian), Spain
Artaunon = Heidetränk-Oppidum near Frankfurt a/M, Germany
Ascaucalis = Kalisz, Poland
Athenai = Athens, Greece
Atiqa = Destroyed around 800AD, Tunisia
Augila = Awjila, Lybia
Aventicos = Avenches, Suisse
Axum = Axum, Ethiopia
Baktra = Balkh, Afghanistan
Bocchoris = ruins near Pollença (Mallorca), Spain
Bononia = Bologna, Italy
Burdigala = Bordeaux, France
Byzantion = Istanbul, Turkey
Caern-Brigantae = Aldborough near Bidborough, England
Camulosadae = Colchester (?), England
Capua = Santa Maria Capua Vetere or Capua, Italy
Carali = Cagliari, Italy
Carna = Qarnaw, Destroyed (?) in the Ramlat al-Sab`atayn desert, Yemen
Carrodunum = Kraków, Poland
Cassemor = Southend-on-sea, England
Cenabum = Orleans, France
Chach = Tashkent, Uzbekistan*
Charax = Madaniyah, Iraq*-Near al Basrah
Chersonesos = Sevastopol (?), Ukraine
Damaskos = Dimashq, Syria
Darioritum= Vannes, France
Diospolis-Megale/Thebes - near Luxor and al-Karnak, Egypt
Ekbatana = Hamadan, Iran
Emporion = Empuries, Spain
Gabai = Isfahan, Iran
Gader = Cadiz, Spain
Gandhara = Islamabad, Pakistan*
Garama = Sabha, Lybia*
Gawajam-Heruskoz = Dortmund
Gawajam-Kimbroz = Vorbasse, Denmark
Gerrha = Near the ruins of fort Uqair, Saudi Arabia
Halikarnassos = Bodrum, Turkey
Hibis = Kharga, Egypt
Hierosolyma = Jerusalem, Israel
Ictis = Exeter (?), England
Ippone/Hippo Regius = Annaba, Algeria
Iuvavoaeta = Salzburg, Austria
Kallatis = Mangalia, Romania
Karmana = Kerman, Iran*
Kart-Hadast = Tunis, Tunisia
Khiva = Xiva, Uzbekistan
Kophen = Kabul, Afghanistan
Korinthos = Corinth, Greece
Kirtan = Destroyed and rebuilt as Constantine, Algeria
Kydonia = Chania, Greece
Kyrene = Destroyed, ruins near Shahhat, Lybia
Lepki = Wadi Lebda, Al Khums, Lybia
Lixus = north of Larache, Morocco
Lilybaeum = Marsala, Italy
Marakanda = Samarkand, Uzbekistan
Maryab = Ma'rib, Yemen
Massilia = Marseille, France
Mastia = Cartagena, Spain
Mediolanum = Milan, Italy
Memphis = Ruins near Cairo
Meroe = Deserted, in the middle of nowhere, Sudan
Mesana = Messina, Italy
Mitilene = Mitilini, Greece
Naissos = Niš, Serbia
Nikaia = Iznik, Turkey
Nisa = Ashgabat, Turkmenistan*
Numantia = destroyed, but the ruins are near Soria, Spain
Olbia = Zhovetnovoye, Ukraine* S of Mikolaiv
Opiana = Sitpur, Pakistan-closest major city is Multan*
Pantikapaion= Kerch, Ukraine
Paraitonion - Marsa Matruh, Egypt
Patala = South of Hyderabad x East of Karachi, Pakistan*
Patavium = Padua, Italy
Pella = Pella, Greece
Pergamon = Bergama, Turkey
Persepolis = Persepolis (UNESCO World Heritige Site) about 70km SW of Shiraz, Iran
Petra = Petra, Jordan
Petridava = Kamianets-Podilskyi, Ukraine
Phraaspa = SE of Tabriz, Iran*
Pselkis = El-Dakka, Egypt?
Ptolemais-Theron = Aqiq, in the vicinity of Massawa, Eritrea
Ratae Corieltauvorum = Leicester, England
Rhegion = Reggio di Calabria, Italy
Rhodos = Rhodos, Greece
Roma = Rome, Italy
Sabata = Shabwa, Yemen
Sala = Chellah, on the outskirts of Rabat, Morocco
Sardis = Sart, Turkey
Segesta = Sestri Levante, Italy
Segestica = Sisak, Croatia
Seleukeia/Ctesiphon = Baghdad, Iraq*
Serdike = Sophia, Bulgaria
Side = Manavgat, Turkey
Siga = Raghgoun, Algeria
Singidunum = Belgrade, Serbia
Syracosai = Siracusa, Italy
Tamane = Bayhan al Qisab, Yemen
Tanais = Rostov-na-Donu, Russia*
Taras = Taranto, Italy
Tarsos = Tarsus, Turkey
Tingis = Tangier (or Tanja in Berber and Arabic), Morocco
Tolosa = Toulouse, France
Trapezous = Trabzon, Turkey
Tylis = Plovdiv (?), Bulgaria
Ubar = Iram (?) The lost city in the Rub' al Khali desert (Oman, Saudi Arabia, UAE and Yemen)
Vesoncio= Besançon, France
Vindobona=Vienna, Austria
Ynys-Mon = Anglesey, Wales
Zadraka(r)ta = Sari, Iran

*for approximate locations, the nearest large city is listed

I will update the list as more cities will be identified.

Thank you for your co-operation!

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And here you can find an amazing tool by Teleklos Archelaou that points out all the EB cities in the Google Earth!

EB map form www.europabarbarorum.com

July 2007 EB Map preview containig downloadable maps and other useful info

[||Lz3||]

I have one!! Athens- Athens!! (as strange that might sound)


now this is a really good Idea, I'm wondering that too

[tapanojum]

Massilia = Marseille

[Rilder]

Roma = Rome

What? That was obvious? Sorry.

[MerlinusCDXX]

A few more

Baktra= Balkh, Afghanistan
Alexandria-Ariana= Herat
Antiocheia-Margiane= Merv
Marakanda= Samarkand
Kophen=Kabul
Vindobona=Vienna
Kallatis= Varna, Bulgaria

[Hax]

Seleukeia/Ctesiphon - Baghdad.

[Maion Maroneios]

Athenai - Athens
Pella - Pella :P
Byzantion (later Konstantinoupolis) - Istanbul
Taras - Tarento IIRC

[Jolt]

Seleukeia/Ctesiphon - Baghdad.

Seleukeia isn't Baghdad. >_> But then again, since both aren't too far away, Baghdad is famous enough to pretend being Seleucia

[cezarip]

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Kallatis = Varna, Bulgaria
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I will update the list as more cities will be identified.

Thank you for your co-operation!

No, the ruins of Callatis are situated in Romania and the city is presently known as Mangalia.

[muha]

I got a few...or just one...

accord to the map I downloaded from the site,

Pantikapaion= Kerch


These ones seems close

Kart-Hadast = Banzart

Southend-on-sea (wierd name for a town) = Cassemorg

This one is obvius, but w/e

Jerusalem = Hierosolyma


and im too bored to find any more

[Centurio Nixalsverdrus]

Petra = Petra.
Rhodos = Rhodos.
Arbela = Arbela.

[keravnos]

Ambrakia= Arta, Epeiros, Greece

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ambracia

a new settlement took its place under the name of Arta. Some fragmentary walls of large, well-dressed blocks near this latter town indicate the early prosperity of Ambracia.

[artavazd]

Armavir= Armavir Armenia

[Irenaeus]

Caern-Brigantae is Aldborough in northern England. The Romans called it Isurium Brigantum - see here. Under Roman rule it declined in status and the major city in northern Brittania became Eboracum (York). Aldborough is a very small village today, so you may be better having Bidborough, which is a small town about 1km away.

Persepolis is in modern-day Iran, although it is in ruins (it is a UNESCO World Heritige Site). The nearest major city is Shiraz, which is about 70km NE of Persepolis.

Gebai may well be Esfahan in Iran, since they geographically match up and Esfahan was the capital of a major province in the Parthian empire around the time EB is set (so Wikipedia says).

[Jolt]

Alexandreia = Al Iskandariyah, Egypt
Antiocheia = Antioch, Turkey


Thank you for your co-operation!

If Alexandria should be called by it's native name, then Antioch would actually be "Antakya"

EDIT: I think you should actually put both on. Alexandria/Al Iskandariyah & Antioch/Antakya

[MerlinusCDXX]

Found a couple more *for approximate locations, the nearest large city is listed

Chach= Tashkent, Uzbekistan*
Alexandria-Eschate=Khujand, Tajikstan ( in the Fergana valley-currently disputed/divided between Tajikstan, Uzbekistan and Kyrgizstan)
Khiva= Xiva, Uzbekistan
Nisa= Ashgabat, Turkmenistan*
Patala= South of Hyderabad x East of Karachi, Pakistan*
Opiana= Sitpur, Pakistan-closest major city is Multan*
Gandhara= Islamabad, Pakistan*
Alexandropolis= Kandahar, Afghanistan*
Charax=Madaniyah, Iraq*-Near al Basrah
Karmana= Kerman, Iran*
Zadraka(r)ta= Sari, Iran
Ani-Kamah= Kemah, Turkey*-West of Erzurum
Olbia= Zhovetnovoye, Ukraine* S of Mikolaiv
Tanais= Rostov-na-Donu, Russia*
Phraaspa= SE of Tabriz, Iran*

[MarcusAureliusAntoninus]

I don't know if it has been mentioned here already, but I just remembered something. Over a year ago, Teleklos released an add-on for Google Earth, that marked the locations of every city, wonder, etc over the Google Earth map. Search the forum and it might still be available for download. It could make this search really easy...

[Arutima]

Tolosa= toulouse, France
Burdigala = Bordeaux, France

[MerlinusCDXX]

I don't know if it has been mentioned here already, but I just remembered something. Over a year ago, Teleklos released an add-on for Google Earth, that marked the locations of every city, wonder, etc over the Google Earth map. Search the forum and it might still be available for download. It could make this search really easy...

Yep, that add-on is still available here. And, might I add, it's pretty awesome. If I knew about this, I surely wouldn't have made that dumb mistake with Varna lol.

[Cartaphilus]

Bocchoris: ruins near Pollença (Mallorca). The land is still called Bóquer.

[revan1013]

Ani-Kamah = Ani

Which is east of Erzerum and Kars, on the modern Turkey-Armenia border.

It's beautiful btw, I highly recommend going there for vacation :)

Don't step in the minefields.

[jamescobain85]

Taras = Taranto not Tarento

[Ibrahim]

nice list.. to you

and i confirm Tingis as tanja: it happens to be were ibn-battutah is from as well.

[V.T. Marvin]

Thank you Ibrahim for my very first baloons! And two ones at once!!! I am honoured, hooray!!!

[Ayce]

In Romania:

Pelendava - Craiova

Apulum - Alba Iulia

Cumidava - Râşnov

Rusidava - Drăgăşani

Tamasidava - Horgeşti

Troemsis - Turcoaia

Napoca - Cluj-Napoca

Tomis - Constanţa

Ziridava - Pecica

Drobeta - Drobeta-Turnu Severin

Sucidava - Corabia

In Bulgaria:

Phillipopolis/Pulpudeva - Plovdiv

The underlined ones are big cities now.

[artavazd]

Ani-Kamah = Ani

Which is east of Erzerum and Kars, on the modern Turkey-Armenia border.

It's beautiful btw, I highly recommend going there for vacation :)

Don't step in the minefields.

In the game Ani-Kamah is located in Poker Hayk (lesser armenia) The mideavel city of Ani is Located in the Shirak Valley as u said on the modern Turkey-Armenia border. The closest city to it is Gyumri in Armenia.

[Majd il-Romani]

how about Terhazza?

No seriously is it an actual city? It looks like it is in Mali.

[Ayce]

There's also:

Petridava - Kamianets-Podilskyi, Ukraine.

[Che Roriniho]

how about Terhazza?

No seriously is it an actual city? It looks like it is in Mali.

I THINK it might be Timbucktu, but do not quote me by any means. The location looks about right though.

[spqr_arcani]

Can the original poster add to his list after confirmation of the city
so it's easier for all to be in sync?

This is a good topic

Someone might have come up with these already, but:

Arretium - Arezzo, Tuscany, Italy
Byzantion - Istanbul, Turkey
Lilybaeum (not sure if it's in EB as well) - Marsala, Sicily, Italy
Massalia - Marseilles, France
Patavium - Padua, Venice, Italy



By the way, can someone post a game map of EB on
wikipedia so there's easy access for all of us?