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    Again, thank you all for your contributions, but especially to you, Mediolanicus - you deserve a baloon!

    Quote Originally Posted by gosam View Post
    Tingis - Tanja
    I am sorry, where is Tingis/Tanja???
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    Quote Originally Posted by V.T. Marvin View Post
    Again, thank you all for your contributions, but especially to you, Mediolanicus - you deserve a baloon!


    I am sorry, where is Tingis/Tanja???

    Yeah! Thank you very much.


    Tanja is Berber and Arabic for Tangier(s), Morocco
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    Ptolemais Theron location is unknown. But as it is in EB's map, I'd reckon it is around Massawa, in Eritrea.
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    Vesoncio= Besançon

    Darioritum= Vannes
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    I got a few...or just one...

    accord to the map I downloaded from the site,

    Pantikapaion= Kerch


    These ones seems close

    Kart-Hadast = Banzart

    Southend-on-sea (wierd name for a town) = Cassemorg

    This one is obvius, but w/e

    Jerusalem = Hierosolyma


    and im too bored to find any more

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    Petra = Petra.
    Rhodos = Rhodos.
    Arbela = Arbela.

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    Ambrakia= Arta, Epeiros, Greece

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ambracia

    a new settlement took its place under the name of Arta. Some fragmentary walls of large, well-dressed blocks near this latter town indicate the early prosperity of Ambracia.
    Last edited by keravnos; 07-23-2008 at 16:03.


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    Armavir= Armavir Armenia

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    Caern-Brigantae is Aldborough in northern England. The Romans called it Isurium Brigantum - see here. Under Roman rule it declined in status and the major city in northern Brittania became Eboracum (York). Aldborough is a very small village today, so you may be better having Bidborough, which is a small town about 1km away.

    Persepolis is in modern-day Iran, although it is in ruins (it is a UNESCO World Heritige Site). The nearest major city is Shiraz, which is about 70km NE of Persepolis.

    Gebai may well be Esfahan in Iran, since they geographically match up and Esfahan was the capital of a major province in the Parthian empire around the time EB is set (so Wikipedia says).

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    Segesta = Sestri Levante, Italy

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    Quote Originally Posted by V.T. Marvin View Post
    Alexandreia = Al Iskandariyah, Egypt
    Antiocheia = Antioch, Turkey


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    If Alexandria should be called by it's native name, then Antioch would actually be "Antakya"

    EDIT: I think you should actually put both on. Alexandria/Al Iskandariyah & Antioch/Antakya
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irenaeus View Post
    Ratae is short for "Ratae Corieltauvorum", which is Leicester in England.

    Two others I'm not sure about are "Camulosadae" which 'may' be Colchester, and Ictis, which 'may' be Exeter (the Romans called these "Camulodunum" & "Isca Dumnoniorum" respectively), both in England. Wikipedia gives only their Roman names, but says that both existed as Celtic towns before the Roman invasion, although the Celtic names are not given. I will give deference to any Celtic historians out there!

    Ynys-Mon is Anglesey in Wales, which is also still the Welsh name for the island.
    I once enquired about Camulosadae as I live nearby and study there and was wondering why it was placed on the site of London rather than Colchester but the EB team told me that it was different settlement to the one the roman developed and called Camolodunum. IIRC however, they are named after a local god which might explain the similarity. (please don't shoot me if I'm wrong my memory ain't great.)

    Also just out of interest, my mother brings word(she's welsh) that "Ynys-mon" is welsh and that the literal translation is "my island".
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    Ptolemais Theron is near Aqiq.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irenaeus View Post
    Caern-Brigantae is Aldborough in northern England. The Romans called it Isurium Brigantum - see here. Under Roman rule it declined in status and the major city in northern Brittania became Eboracum (York). Aldborough is a very small village today, so you may be better having Bidborough, which is a small town about 1km away.

    Persepolis is in modern-day Iran, although it is in ruins (it is a UNESCO World Heritige Site). The nearest major city is Shiraz, which is about 70km NE of Persepolis.

    Gebai may well be Esfahan in Iran, since they geographically match up and Esfahan was the capital of a major province in the Parthian empire around the time EB is set (so Wikipedia says).
    Very good!

    A simplifying tidbit would be that Gabae is not really the most distinguishable name of ancient Isfahan; Its etymological root, Aspadana, however is.


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    Quote Originally Posted by We shall fwee...Wodewick View Post
    I once enquired about Camulosadae as I live nearby and study there and was wondering why it was placed on the site of London rather than Colchester but the EB team told me that it was different settlement to the one the roman developed and called Camolodunum. IIRC however, they are named after a local god which might explain the similarity. (please don't shoot me if I'm wrong my memory ain't great.)
    Indeed, Camolodunum is a romanised version of Camulodunon, which was the Celtic name meaning "Fortress of Camulos". Camulos was a celtic war god, so there could well be many places beginning with "Camulo". See here for more.

    Almost certainly though, Camulosadae is not Londinium (now London), since this was founded by the Romans in about 47 AD.

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    Maryab - Ma'rib, Yemen
    Carna - Qarnaw(u)? Destroyed? in the Ramlat al-Sab`atayn desert, Yemen?
    Tamane - Bayhan al Qisab, Yemen?
    Sabata - Shabwa, Yemen?
    Ubar - Iram? The lost city in the Rub' al Khali desert (Oman, Saudi Arabia, UAE and Yemen)
    Gerrha - Near the ruins of fort Uqair, Saudi Arabia?

    I have no idea where Homna lays.

    Those Arabian cities are hard to find...
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    Arsé = Sagunt (cat.) / Sagunto
    Burdigala = Bordeaux
    Tolosa = Toulouse.

    I thought Armavir would be Yerewan?

    Edit: Found Nikaia = Iznik
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    Found a couple more *for approximate locations, the nearest large city is listed

    Chach= Tashkent, Uzbekistan*
    Alexandria-Eschate=Khujand, Tajikstan ( in the Fergana valley-currently disputed/divided between Tajikstan, Uzbekistan and Kyrgizstan)
    Khiva= Xiva, Uzbekistan
    Nisa= Ashgabat, Turkmenistan*
    Patala= South of Hyderabad x East of Karachi, Pakistan*
    Opiana= Sitpur, Pakistan-closest major city is Multan*
    Gandhara= Islamabad, Pakistan*
    Alexandropolis= Kandahar, Afghanistan*
    Charax=Madaniyah, Iraq*-Near al Basrah
    Karmana= Kerman, Iran*
    Zadraka(r)ta= Sari, Iran
    Ani-Kamah= Kemah, Turkey*-West of Erzurum
    Olbia= Zhovetnovoye, Ukraine* S of Mikolaiv
    Tanais= Rostov-na-Donu, Russia*
    Phraaspa= SE of Tabriz, Iran*
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    I don't know if it has been mentioned here already, but I just remembered something. Over a year ago, Teleklos released an add-on for Google Earth, that marked the locations of every city, wonder, etc over the Google Earth map. Search the forum and it might still be available for download. It could make this search really easy...


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    Tolosa= toulouse, France
    Burdigala = Bordeaux, France

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarcusAureliusAntoninus View Post
    I don't know if it has been mentioned here already, but I just remembered something. Over a year ago, Teleklos released an add-on for Google Earth, that marked the locations of every city, wonder, etc over the Google Earth map. Search the forum and it might still be available for download. It could make this search really easy...
    Yep, that add-on is still available here. And, might I add, it's pretty awesome. If I knew about this, I surely wouldn't have made that dumb mistake with Varna lol.

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    Bocchoris: ruins near Pollença (Mallorca). The land is still called Bóquer.
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    Ani-Kamah = Ani

    Which is east of Erzerum and Kars, on the modern Turkey-Armenia border.

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    Taras = Taranto not Tarento

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    nice list.. to you

    and i confirm Tingis as tanja: it happens to be were ibn-battutah is from as well.
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    Thank you Ibrahim for my very first baloons! And two ones at once!!! I am honoured, hooray!!!
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    In Romania:

    Pelendava - Craiova

    Apulum - Alba Iulia


    Cumidava - Râşnov

    Rusidava - Drăgăşani

    Tamasidava - Horgeşti

    Troemsis - Turcoaia

    Napoca - Cluj-Napoca

    Tomis - Constanţa

    Ziridava - Pecica

    Drobeta - Drobeta-Turnu Severin


    Sucidava - Corabia

    In Bulgaria:

    Phillipopolis/Pulpudeva - Plovdiv


    The underlined ones are big cities now.

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    side = side , a county now, manavgat is another county of antalya province (Attalia) of turkey now.
    side and manavgat aprr.. 40- 60 km ..



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    Sadly there is one city or island of importance at that time that is missing in Eb. My homeland was an important economic centre at that time. First Phoenicians, than the Greeks and the Poeni there is a temple at a place called Marsaxlokk ( =the port on the southeast), it was called Portus Herculeum by the Romans, that is known as the Temple of Juno where this economic activity was at its peak, coins from all parts of the Mediterranean have been found. Known to the ancients as Melita and the island of Calypso, now are known as Malta and Gozo. ( I hope the are there in EB 2.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by revan1013 View Post
    Ani-Kamah = Ani

    Which is east of Erzerum and Kars, on the modern Turkey-Armenia border.

    It's beautiful btw, I highly recommend going there for vacation :)

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    In the game Ani-Kamah is located in Poker Hayk (lesser armenia) The mideavel city of Ani is Located in the Shirak Valley as u said on the modern Turkey-Armenia border. The closest city to it is Gyumri in Armenia.

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