Islamist censorship reaches America

[Adrian II]

Who'd have thunk. A major American publishing house pulls a novel about Mohammed for fear of reprisals. Maybe some other publisher will touch it, but it is a sign of the times.

The series of events that torpedoed this novel are a window into how quickly fear stunts intelligent discourse about the Muslim world.

How depressingly familiar.

[Louis VI the Fat]

It's an epidemic! Lemur's Disease strikes again.

Though granted, I buried it in one of my confused neo-Fragonian rants.

[Adrian II]

It's an epidemic! Lemur's Disease strikes again.

Though granted, I buried it in one of my confused neo-Fragonian rants.

I appreciate your Cartesian candour. Said rant indeed escaped my attention. But the subject is worth a thread of its own, no? Maybe you can organise your thoughts this time.

[ICantSpellDawg]

That is old news. Another publisher will publish the work as soon as the original is sued and the profits will be higher than they would had the first press just done the damn thing.

[Louis VI the Fat]

I appreciate your Cartesian candour. Said rant indeed escaped my attention. But the subject is worth a thread of its own, no? Maybe you can organise your thoughts this time.

It is certainly deserving of its own thread.


My thoughts defy the restraints of outdated, traditional organisation.

[PanzerJaeger]

Why are muslims so afraid to face the truth about their great founder?

Christianity is constantly bombarded with all sorts of unsavory theories about Jesus, including such gems as the speculation that he was having an illicit relationship with a prostitute, had a family with said prostitute, was a terrorist, was gay, was a bastard from an affair, etc; yet Christians soldier on secure in their faith.

On the other hand, muslims seem to have a hard time with any critical assessment of Mohamed, even based off of what is written in the Koran itself - much less a broader historical analysis.

IMO, this hostility to any historical review of Mohamed is due to the knowledge that - when viewed in the fullness of history - the man seems little more than your average ruthless warlord with the typical self-constructed aura most came with.

Of course, it is not for me to say whether it is better to worship the leader of a small Jewish sect of social rejects or a genocidal demagogue with a penchant for little girls.

[Hosakawa Tito]

If OJ can get published for his confess...er...I mean theory, then someone will publish this if it is deemed profitable.

[Rhyfelwyr]

Christianity is constantly bombarded with all sorts of unsavory theories about Jesus, including such gems as the speculation that he was having an illicit relationship with a prostitute, had a family with said prostitute, was a terrorist, was gay, was a bastard from an affair, etc:

I shall be sending a PM to a moderator to have this offensive post removed.

Christian censhorship just reached the Backroom.

[CountArach]

I shall be sending a PM to a moderator to have this offensive post removed.

Christian censhorship just reached the Backroom.

That made my day

[KarlXII]

Christianity is constantly bombarded with all sorts of unsavory theories about Jesus, including such gems as the speculation that he was having an illicit relationship with a prostitute, had a family with said prostitute, was a terrorist, was gay, was a bastard from an affair, etc; yet Christians soldier on secure in their faith.

I have yet to see a book about Jesus being a mass murdering pedophilic pirate. However, I have seen books about how Islam is a corrupt and mass murdering religion, and how Mohammed was nothing more than a pedophile. Funny, isn't it?

[Devastatin Dave]

"mass murdering pedophilic pirate" make me horny. Praise Allah, all hail Xenu!!!

[Motep]

I have yet to see a book about Jesus being a mass murdering pedophilic pirate. However, I have seen books about how Islam is a corrupt and mass murdering religion, and how Mohammed was nothing more than a pedophile. Funny, isn't it?

When you put it that way...yes.

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

When you put it that way...yes.

Uh, not really. For one thing, Jesus didn't marry - or, for that matter, have a lot of very young wives. For another thing, Da Vinci Code. Didn't ban that, did we? We treated it for what it was - fiction.

[Motep]

Uh, not really. For one thing, Jesus didn't marry - or, for that matter, have a lot of very young wives. For another thing, Da Vinci Code. Didn't ban that, did we? We treated it for what it was - fiction.

No. Not what I mean. hearing jesus being protrayed as a "mass murdering pedophilic pirate" is very silly (what with the mental images and all), and gave me a decent chuckle.

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

No. Not what I mean. hearing jesus being protrayed as a "mass murdering pedophilic pirate" is very silly (what with the mental images and all), and gave me a decent chuckle.

Ah. I see.

[KarlXII]

Uh, not really. For one thing, Jesus didn't marry - or, for that matter, have a lot of very young wives. For another thing, Da Vinci Code. Didn't ban that, did we? We treated it for what it was - fiction.

http://www.dawn.com/2006/06/05/top18.htm

http://www.cinematical.com/2006/05/1...i-code-banned/

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4750283.stm

http://www.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/Movi...ina/index.html

http://www.newsflash.org/2004/02/hl/hl104011.htm

http://www.hindu.com/2006/06/02/stor...0220780100.htm

I don't see how having many wives has anything to do with anything, seeing as it was common practice back then.

Oh, and here you go.

[KarlXII]

No. Not what I mean. hearing jesus being protrayed as a "mass murdering pedophilic pirate" is very silly (what with the mental images and all), and gave me a decent chuckle.

Same for me when I hear that about Mohammed.

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

http://www.dawn.com/2006/06/05/top18.htm

http://www.cinematical.com/2006/05/1...i-code-banned/

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4750283.stm

http://www.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/Movi...ina/index.html

http://www.newsflash.org/2004/02/hl/hl104011.htm

http://www.hindu.com/2006/06/02/stor...0220780100.htm

Where was it banned in the West or due to fear of reprisals?

They can protest all they like. Won't make a difference.

[KarlXII]

Where was it banned in the West or due to fear of reprisals?




They can protest all they like. Won't make a difference.

The fact that it was still banned due to Christains goes to show that Muslims are not the only ones getting things blocked.

They can protest, yes, but when Muslims protest, they're trying to destroy freedom of speech.

[Devastatin Dave]

The fact that it was still banned due to Christains goes to show that Muslims are not the only ones getting things blocked.

They can protest, yes, but when Muslims protest, they're trying to destroy freedom of speech.

Yes their the same, except for the riots, beheading, and other little nasty little things, but besides that, they're exactly alike!!!

[KarlXII]

Yes their the same, except for the riots, beheading, and other little nasty little things, but besides that, they're exactly alike!!!

Oh please. You do know the purpose of terrorism? It's to inspire terror, the extremists managed to do it in this case. Do you think every Muslim calls for the killings of foreigners? That's like saying all Christains agree with the Phelps family.

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

Oh please. You do know the purpose of terrorism? It's to inspire terror, the extremists managed to do it in this case. Do you think every Muslim calls for the killings of foreigners? That's like saying all Christains agree with the Phelps family.

I think the Phelps family is a rather smaller minority among Christianity than the extremists are among Muslims.

[KarlXII]

I think the Phelps family is a rather smaller minority among Christianity than the extremists are among Muslims.

Yet still a loud minority.

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

Yet still a loud minority.

Sure. A loud group with a hundred-odd people.

[KarlXII]

Sure. A loud group with a hundred-odd people.

Does it make them any more acceptable?

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

Does it make them any more acceptable?

Nope. But less deadly.

[KarlXII]

Nope. But less deadly.

Can you at least admit every religion has violent extremists?

Islam, like societies/cultures/religions, need time to evolve. I personally think it won't be long before the people start making serious changes to Islamic states.

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

Can you at least admit every religion has violent extremists?

Yep, no problem.

[KarlXII]

Yep, no problem.

At least you're making some progress.

[KarlXII]

when viewed in the fullness of history - the man seems little more than your average ruthless warlord with the typical self-constructed aura most came with.

So I'm guessing you think Jesus was nothing more than your average man?

(Christain, if you're wondering)