Are ambakaro epones historically correct ?

[Barry Soteiro]

I mean it's a bit stupid for a skirmishing cavalry to have a facemask.

[Foot]

I'm sorry. Your argument against our archaelogical and textual evidence is that its stupid.

I've made up my mind now. You are a troll.

However, to give your overworked mind some rest I'll just mention the following - they aren't skirmisher cavalry, they are medium cavalry equipped with javelins (as many cavalry are wont to do in this age). Not all soldiers would have worn facemasks, but archaelogical evidence suggests that some did. As we cannot give different helments to soldiers in the same unit we went for the facemask option because its quite a beautiful object that hadn't appeared on any soldier thus far.

Foot

[cmacq]

Dear fellow, not to draw too fine a point, however...







I believe the interiors were lined; overall used to protect the face against missiles and the cold?


CmacQ

[Mediolanicus]

I mean it's a bit stupid for a skirmishing cavalry to have a facemask.

And I think it's a bit stupid to fight naked in the middle of winter...
So I'm sure that makes the Gaesatae completely unhistorical too.

[Lysimachos]

And I think it's a bit stupid to fight naked in the middle of winter...
So I'm sure that makes the Gaesatae completely unhistorical too.

I think it's a bit stupid to fight. Does that make wars unhistorical

[tls5669]

And I think it's a bit stupid to fight naked in the middle of winter...
So I'm sure that makes the Gaesatae completely unhistorical too.

Thats why most countries campaigned during the warmer months.

[Mediolanicus]

Thats why most countries campaigned during the warmer months.

Yeah, I know.

I just like sarcasm and a nice hyperbole now and then.
I could have written the part about fighting and war being a bit stupid, but I was a bit too stupid to come up with that

[fatsweets]

I haven't seen this unit yet, which factions can this unit be recruited by?

[ThePianist]

Read this page: https://www.europabarbarorum.com/fac...nan_units.html
They are Elite Medium cavalry, and it's on the website. Should have read the description on there before asking about historical accuracy.

And download this
Recruitment Viewer: https://www.europabarbarorum.com/downloads_misc.html

[Ludens]

And download this
Recruitment Viewer: https://www.europabarbarorum.com/downloads_misc.html

Keep in mind that the recruitment viewer on the website is for EB1.0, not 1.1. The one that is included with the modification itself is for EB1.1, but does not contain the unit cards.

[Eduorius]

Done :P

[Olaf The Great]

In before the lock.

Anyway, the above poster..posted some interesting pictures. Obviously they would have moved up the facemask while throwing Javelins, but due to the Assery of CA we can't make them "Switch" like that

Feels obvious man.

[Ludens]

Assery? I am as disappointed as anyone about CA lack of helpfulness towards the modding community, but this is unreasonable. R:TW is a game, not a fully flexible modding platform, and it's unrealistic to expect it to be. I have yet to see a major video game without hardcodes of some sort.

[Foot]

Why would CA even include such a thing? None of their units used facemasks and even if they did the extra work to include such an option seems to far exceed the reasons for including it. Stop CA bashing just because you feel the need to. There are areas where I would have liked to have seen more help from CA, but this is certainly not one of them. All in all CA are probably one of the few developers who actually give a rats arse about their modding community.

Foot

[Dutchhoplite]

Hmmm, are those movable visors??

[Tellos Athenaios]

Movable in the sense: you can move your helmet in its entirety to the back of your head? Similar to a hood? Apparently, yes. But I do not see any mechanism to make it work the way you probably meant -- I see no (possible) moving parts on those pictures. The face masks appear to be directly integrated with the main components of the helmet.

[Olaf The Great]

Assery? I am as disappointed as anyone about CA lack of helpfulness towards the modding community, but this is unreasonable. R:TW is a game, not a fully flexible modding platform, and it's unrealistic to expect it to be. I have yet to see a major video game without hardcodes of some sort.

I just needed to have some sort of reason to say "Assery"

But yes basically what I meant was that it was impossible :P

[Dutchhoplite]

Well i'm sure the helm *could* be tilted back from the forehead but when i see the position of the neckguard it seems to be sitting normally on the head and with the facemask clapped up :)

And i see "something" that look like hinges ;)

Where are these pictures from?? They seem quite old.

[Ibrahim]

Well i'm sure the helm *could* be tilted back from the forehead but when i see the position of the neckguard it seems to be sitting normally on the head and with the facemask clapped up :)

And i see "something" that look like hinges ;)

Where are these pictures from?? They seem quite old.

clonde de clonard, 1861, IIRC. I use them to make spanish uniforms for the seven years war, along with the album de taccoli; these plates are from the associacion de modelissimo de Alabarda, so I'd like to ask the moderator to remove those pics; there is no permission to use them, and they are copyrighted (I and my boss had to wrte to them for permission to use, copy or distribute these). unless the guy who posted them is a member of course.

here is a work of mine (the template)

http://www.kronoskaf.com/syw/index.p...oledo_Infantry

[MeinPanzer]

clonde de clonard, 1861, IIRC. I use them to make spanish uniforms for the seven years war, along with the album de taccoli; these plates are from the associacion de modelissimo de Alabarda, so I'd like to ask the moderator to remove those pics; there is no permission to use them, and they are copyrighted (I and my boss had to wrte to them for permission to use, copy or distribute these). unless the guy who posted them is a member of course.

here is a work of mine (the template)

http://www.kronoskaf.com/syw/index.p...oledo_Infantry

If these images were published in 1861 then they are in the public domain now.

[Foot]

If its 1861 those pictures are surely not under copyright any more. Besides, I'm pretty sure they would fall under a fair use policy.

Foot

[General Appo]

For once, Foot got owned.

[mcantu]

For once, Foot got owned.

hardly...he's 100% correct about the copyright issue

[Ibrahim]

If its 1861 those pictures are surely not under copyright any more. Besides, I'm pretty sure they would fall under a fair use policy.

Foot

actually, ownership is still expressed. I'm well aware that this is beyond the c.75 years post mortem of the author(s), but the Alabarda associacion claims it as property-so no, no publishing. we are lucky at kronoskaf to have a few pages of the conde to display outside of the Alabarda; we cannot publish a single page of the Album de taccoli, from 1759. that one is owned by Mr. Torres. nice guy- really helpful. only he, my boss, and myself ever looked inside of it. and I swore not to show a single page-just the result.

so in summation: fair use applies if the author was dead for over 75 years, and ownership/ claim was not made on the work. sorry. I'd normally say yes, but the works are claimed, so plz.

[mcantu]

actually, ownership is still expressed. I'm well aware that this is beyond the c.75 years post mortem of the author(s), but the Alabarda associacion claims it as property-so no, no publishing. we are lucky at kronoskaf to have a few pages of the conde to display outside of the Alabarda; we cannot publish a single page of the Album de taccoli, from 1759. that one is owned by Mr. Torres. nice guy- really helpful. only he, my boss, and myself ever looked inside of it. and I swore not to show a single page-just the result.

so in summation: fair use applies if the author was dead for over 75 years, and ownership/ claim was not made on the work. sorry. I'd normally say yes, but the works are claimed, so plz.

fair use (only applies when there is a valid copyright. if a work is no longer under copyright, fair use is not applicable and the work can be used freely

http://www.library.yale.edu/~llicense/definiti.shtml

Fair Use

The right set forth in Section 107 of the United States Copyright Act, to use copyrighted materials for certain purposes, such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Section 107 sets out four factors to be considered in determining whether or not a particular use is fair: (1) the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes; (2) the nature of the copyrighted work; (3) the amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole; and (4) the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work.

[Ibrahim]

I see. then I'll ned to have a talk with someone...

but it raises the question: why not let us publish the stuff(Album and what have you), without permission? I mean, If indeed what you say is true (and it is), why the ban? I even have the letter from torres copied by the boss.

[General Appo]

hardly...he's 100% correct about the copyright issue

I was referring to the fact that Foot´s post was preceded with a very short time by another poster saying pretty much the same thing. Foot owned me in the same way a few days ago. Revenge is sweet.

[mcantu]

I see. then I'll ned to have a talk with someone...

but it raises the question: why not let us publish the stuff(Album and what have you), without permission? I mean, If indeed what you say is true (and it is), why the ban? I even have the letter from torres copied by the boss.

well if its their own personal property, they can do (or not do) whatever they want with it. if there are already images of the plates in circulation, then they have no say over how those are used.

[lobf]

I was referring to the fact that Foot´s post was preceded with a very short time by another poster saying pretty much the same thing. Foot owned me in the same way a few days ago. Revenge is sweet.

Tell us what his underwear smells like, Appo.

[General Appo]

Cherries. With banana icecream. Fabulous.