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    - Makedonia
    - Aitolian League
    - Achaian League

    - Taras
    - Epiros (?)
    - Syrakuse

    - Roma
    - Etruscii
    - Persian Empire

    - Magadha
    - Kyrene
    - Meroe

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    Were the Boeotian league still around?
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    I'm not sure. However, if any people are interested, I'm going to create a Social Group concerning this idea. So if any of you wish to look at it or have some ideas that you want to post, why not!

    You can find the group here.
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    There should be more factions in Italy. Roma was one of the weaker factions at the time.

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    Samnites? Etruscans? OOH Ligurians?

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    Okay:

    Quote Originally Posted by Social Group
    So, just to start out:

    EB: Alexander

    Factions:

    1) Makedonia
    2) Aitolian League
    3) Achaian League
    4) Persian Empire
    5) Meroe
    6) Nanda Empire [India]
    7) ?
    8) Kyrene
    9) Pontos
    10) Syrakuse

    11) Roma
    12) Piceni
    13) Samniti
    14) Etrusci
    15) Ligurians (?)
    16) ?
    17) ?
    18) ?
    19) ?
    20) ?
    21) Eleutheroi
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    He included Samnites and Etruscans in his list.

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    Ok, you have Meroe in there twice.

    And why Pontos? It wasn't an independent kingdom yet.

    Maybe some Lucanians, Sabines, Sabellians, and a few Celts?

    Oh, and Dahae.
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    I saw a map around 350 BC that included Pontos. I made a mistake by including Meroe twice, very handy yeah.
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    I would say that a mod about Alexander shouldn't include Italy. I'd say include the whole of India but end at Illyria in the west.


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    But what about a pre-Alexander mod? In 380-350 BC anything could have happened: Rome's dominance of the Italian peninsula was far from a foregone conclusion; if Phillip had died young I doubt Macedon would have become a superpower; Persia was still the greatest empire the worl have ever seen; Athens and Sparta (not to mention Thebes and Corinth) were far from finished. If I had my druthers it'd be a more focused map, similar to RoP maybe, more cities in Greece, Anatolia and around the Black Sea, and more focus on the struggles of the future regional powers to achieve greatness. PLus you could have the old vanilla Egyptians back!
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    Also; I'd like reforms for the Makedonians if they manage to do what Philippos did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarcusAureliusAntoninus View Post
    I would say that a mod about Alexander shouldn't include Italy. I'd say include the whole of India but end at Illyria in the west.
    Nt nessecarily. Alexandros planned to attack Italy after returning from India, and what was to stop him from attacking Italy rather than Persia?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Subotan View Post
    Nt nessecarily. Alexandros planned to attack Italy after returning from India, and what was to stop him from attacking Italy rather than Persia?
    To drastically oversimplify: Persia had easier terrain, more riches and more profitable trade. Western Europe was a hotly-contested and highly fractious backwater in Alexander's time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Subotan View Post
    Nt nessecarily. Alexandros planned to attack Italy after returning from India, and what was to stop him from attacking Italy rather than Persia?
    Three things. Firstly, Alexandros' cousin and ally, Alexander of Epeiros, was already going to Italy. Secondly, Alexander was already in a state of war with Persia, due to Parmenion and another general's army being in Asia Minor. Thirdly, the Greek alliance Alexander led had as official goal to attack Persia.

    Anyway, do we know what Alexander was planning shortly before he was dead? I heard he planned to attack Arabia, Carthage, and now Italy. Off course it is possible he had imbibed delusions of grandeur, but what do we really know?
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    Eh, well the possibility of attacking Italy/Illyria shouldn't be left out. That would be more inaccurate than him going to Italy, as the roal of these mods is to represent the starting conditions as much as possible, then leave it up to you.

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    Add in the Boii, and Veneti as Celtic factions. Boii= the guys that brought you the Sack of Roma. Veneti- in and around Patavium.
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    Personally, I want to play the 19-20th centuries...WW1..and WW2.

    I wanna play as Hitler and destroy Washington.

    hope I didnt make any spelling mistakes..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hax View Post
    I'm not sure. However, if any people are interested, I'm going to create a Social Group concerning this idea. So if any of you wish to look at it or have some ideas that you want to post, why not!

    You can find the group here.
    I get "This page cannot be displayed." when I click the link.
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    Ah yes, I made a mistake in the url.

    Try now: here
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ludens View Post
    Anyway, do we know what Alexander was planning shortly before he was dead? I heard he planned to attack Arabia, Carthage, and now Italy. Off course it is possible he had imbibed delusions of grandeur, but what do we really know?
    One could debate whether they would be delusions, or simply observations

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    To be honest, I wouldn't enjoy am EB set in Alexandrian times. The presence of a single superpower and no balance of powers between smaller factions just really turns me off. Anyways, the EB Team has already stated it doesn't intend to switch time periods. This thread should be closed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Methuselah View Post
    To be honest, I wouldn't enjoy am EB set in Alexandrian times. The presence of a single superpower and no balance of powers between smaller factions just really turns me off. Anyways, the EB Team has already stated it doesn't intend to switch time periods. This thread should be closed.
    What? Locked! Why on earth? People are having a civilized conversation about what historical periods they would like to see realized as a mod done by some people as talented and thorough as EB team. It actually seems, that a fan made project like the Asia ton Barbaron could start just here! Just because you wouldn't see Alexandrian times interesting, doesn't mean someone else would love it. Threads get locked when people missbehave. Or spam it to death. I am sure you know this Methusaleh.

    Moreover, even though the team will not change EB's timeline, it doesn't mean that fan projects or even the guys in the team couldn't do other projects. What I'm implying at is of course the now ceased Later Times project parts of the EB team was working on during the times of EBI. It would have used EB as a basis and would have started around 160BC IIRC. It would have been cool, with the Indogreeks and what not!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gleemonex View Post
    One could debate whether they would be delusions, or simply observations

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    Crazy enough to crush what remained of the Persian empire.
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