Preview: Mamla'ha biMassylim

[Elmetiacos]

I thought you were going to say that he wasn't born yet...

It's quite likely he wasn't.

[Labrat]

Will the Bosporan Kingdom faction appear on EB2? That'd be awesome.

All we know about the factions of EB2 is that they will be the factions of EB1 plus Pergamon, the Massylia and seven or eight others. The Bosporans stand a good chance to be one of the others, though.

[Maion Maroneios]

Will the Bosporan Kingdom faction appear on EB2? That'd be awesome.

Yes.

Maion

[Skullheadhq]

Yes.

Maion

We don't know yet.

[Zradha Pahlavan]

I think I now know which faction to play as whenever EB2 comes out.

[Christianus]

The parthians?

[Alsatia]

The parthians are the Pahlava in EBI.

And how did we get from Africa to the east?

[Christianus]

The Parthians are the Pahlava in EB!?! No way!!!

[mountaingoat]

oh so awesome!

[Zradha Pahlavan]

The parthians?

No, the Numidians. They look too cool to pass up. Unless of course the EB2 Pahlava end up being even more awesome than they are in EB1...

[Ibrahim]

The Parthians are the Pahlava in EB!?! No way!!!

way to go for stating the obvious..

[Christianus]

haha:p

[olly]

Just had a good look through thie excellent preview and posts and I have one question it seems no one has replied to yet.

Is this faction going to get roman trained and styled infantry in one of its reforms or is this something that can't be discussed yet?

Also on a slightly related matter I remember in vanilla RTW there were armenian legionarries. Were these guys just made up or did they happen?

Thanks

[bobbin]

IIRC the romans labeled anything that fought in a similar manner to thier legions "immitation Legionares", so armoured armenian troops that fought with swords and largeish shields were labeled as such desipte existing long before any contact with the romans. In EB1 they are represented by the Mardig Sooseramartik.

[Ludens]

IIRC the romans labeled anything that fought in a similar manner to thier legions "immitation Legionares", so armoured armenian troops that fought with swords and largeish shields were labeled as such desipte existing long before any contact with the romans. In EB1 they are represented by the Mardig Sooseramartik.

The ironic thing being that the vanilla R:TW Pontus faction did not get such troops, even though they definitely existed (Mithradates obtained Roman instructors from the Marian rebels in Iberia). After the second Punic war the Numidians also received training from the Romans, although I don't know anything of the result. I'd be curious to learn more, since I still don't quite see how legionaries (particularly pre-Marian legionaries) would fit into the Numidian army.

[Darius]

The very idea of a people who live primarily as mounted nomads, who regard their cavalry (a regard shared by much of the western Mediterranean as well) as their pinnacle of warrior-hood, it's hard to imagine them developing anything that could be considered remotely as "Heavy" infantry.

Take into account that the majority of their warrior class were nomads and therefore had neither the necessary degree of raw resources available or even a sufficiently large enough manufacturing capability required to produce the amount of arms and armor that would be needed to arm and armor a heavy infantry force. Also take into account that they have been traditionally fighting with hit and run skirmish tactics for untold generations. Don't forget that they also happen to live in a region that is composed largely of rocky deserts with fairly hot temperatures that make wearing anything other than the lightest of armors almost entirely impractical if not an outright detriment to your health and well being.

Of course, this doesn't mean that they COULDN'T have adapted to the fighting tactics of their more aggressive and expansionist neighbors given time. All I'm saying is that if they DID, it wouldn't likely be a full scale military reform. These people lived largely in small scattered villages, semi-nomadic settlements, or full out nomadic life-styles. Sure they probably had the occasional town, and probably at least one or two "Cities", though not in any fashion we'd likely recognize as such. Any change that would be taken wouldn't be universal in any sense of the word. It would likely be maybe something a particularly large and/or wealthy tribe or alliance of tribes would undertake, and even then it would likely be on a fairly moderate scale. Nomadic culture wasn't really set up to support a large standing army.

[antisocialmunky]

Why isn't this stickied anymore?

[Blxz]

Why isn't this stickied anymore?

Foot moves all the previews to the stickied "All the previews in one thread' thread once enough time passes and they unsticky them individually. So its still in a sticky situation